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Hurricane Gustav projected path could hit New Orleans

So there isn't much printed news on the web yet (this is the best I could find: http://abcnews.go.com/US/...3&page=1), but the national news just announced that Hurrican Gustav, which has already killed 22 in Haiti and the DR is now expected to go over the Gulf of Mexico and gain strength. Right now its projected path is New Orleans, at a level 3, and expected to hit in a few days. sad

(from the link I posted above)
Gustav's landfall could be anywhere from the Florida panhandle to Texas, but forecasters believe it is headed toward New Orleans, which is still recovering from the devastation of Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

Officials in New Orleans said it is still too early to call for evacuations of the city but issued a statement saying that residents should have an evacuation plan in place.

The city is prepared to move 30,000 residents by train and bus, said Col. Jerry Sneed, who runs the city's office of emergency preparedness. The city expects an evacuation to take 24 to 36 hours.

Even though Gustav was downgraded from a hurricane to a tropical storm, New Orleans residents remain on edge today as forecasters warn the storm will likely regroup and could be a powerful Category 3 hurricane by this weekend -- the third anniversary of Hurricane Katrina.


I hope they are wrong. sad sad sad

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Reply #1 posted 08/27/08 10:22pm

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jone70 said:

So there isn't much printed news on the web yet (this is the best I could find: http://abcnews.go.com/US/...3&page=1), but the national news just announced that Hurrican Gustav, which has already killed 22 in Haiti and the DR is now expected to go over the Gulf of Mexico and gain strength. Right now its projected path is New Orleans, at a level 3, and expected to hit in a few days. sad

(from the link I posted above)
Gustav's landfall could be anywhere from the Florida panhandle to Texas, but forecasters believe it is headed toward New Orleans, which is still recovering from the devastation of Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

Officials in New Orleans said it is still too early to call for evacuations of the city but issued a statement saying that residents should have an evacuation plan in place.

The city is prepared to move 30,000 residents by train and bus, said Col. Jerry Sneed, who runs the city's office of emergency preparedness. The city expects an evacuation to take 24 to 36 hours.

Even though Gustav was downgraded from a hurricane to a tropical storm, New Orleans residents remain on edge today as forecasters warn the storm will likely regroup and could be a powerful Category 3 hurricane by this weekend -- the third anniversary of Hurricane Katrina.


I hope they are wrong. sad sad sad

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This is terrible. I really hope that it doesn't hit there. I will say though, I dont understand why anyone would want to live there after learning the hard way how the levees are so defective. I dont understand.....
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Reply #2 posted 08/28/08 1:57am

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It sure don't look pretty - New Orleans is right in the middle of the predicted path.
I copied this from the NHC website - www.nhc.noaa.gov. Well worth checking.


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Reply #3 posted 08/28/08 6:38am

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I saw that on the news this morning and my heart sank. I pray that it doesn't happen - the people down there don't need any more heartache.
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Reply #4 posted 08/28/08 9:39pm

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Another article in the NY Times:

New Orleans Braces for Tropical Storm
By ANAHAD O’CONNOR

Tropical storm Gustav began pounding Jamaica Thursday, prompting evacuations and relief efforts as the strengthening storm continued a collision course with the Gulf of Mexico, where officials in Mississippi and Louisiana were already on high alert..

After barreling through Haiti and the Dominican Republic with hurricane-force winds and rain earlier in the week, Gustav was somewhere shy of 80 miles off the coast of east Jamaica on Thursday and gaining steam. Heavy rains that signaled its arrival led Jamaican officials to open shelters and warn residents to seek cover.

Forecasters said the storm had winds of roughly 70 miles per hour, but would accelerate toward Category 3 speeds of 111 mph as it continued west toward the Gulf. Hurricanes are rated on a scale of 1 to 5, with Category 1 storms reaching winds of 74 mph and Category 5 storms exceeding speeds of 155 mph. Forecasters said Gustav would grow to a hurricane by the end of the day.

Emergency preparations for the storm along the Gulf Coast come almost three years to the day that Hurricane Katrina slammed New Orleans, destroying levees, flooding 80 percent of the city, and killing nearly 1,500 people. If Gustav were to strike the region, it would be the first major hurricane to threaten the Gulf since 2005.

“There are a lot of things that are different between now and what we faced in 2005 when Katrina came ashore,” Michael Chertoff, the secretary of Homeland Security, told the Assocated Press before flying to Louisiana to meet with New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin and Gov. Bobby Jindal. “We’ve had three years to put together a plan that never existed before.”

Emergency officials in Mississippi warned of evacuations, as residents flocked to stores to stock up on gas, power generators and other supplies. Gov. Jindal declared a state of emergency and prepared hundreds of buses and emergency shelters to help residents flee should Gustav strike as expected on Tuesday.

Mayor Nagin has already returned from the Democratic Convention in Denver to help his city prepare. And Mr. Jindal said he was ready to cancel his upcoming plans to attend the Republican Convention in Minnesota, where he is scheduled to speak on Tuesday night, immediately after Sen. John McCain’s wife, Cindy, and just before the vice presidential nominee.

“My first responsibility is here in Louisiana,” he said at a news conference on Wednesday. “As long as the hurricane has Louisiana in its sights, this is where I’ll be. We’re still hopeful that the storm will miss us, but we’ve got to prepare as if it’s coming our way.”

Concern that the storm might wreak havoc in the Gulf prompted the evacuation of oil platforms and sent oil prices higher. One of the world’s largest offshore drillers, Transocean, evacuated 1,600 workers from its rigs in the Gulf, while Royal Dutch Shell PLC pulled nearly 400 people from its rigs. Petrobras, ConocoPhillips, and other energy companies said they were paying close attention to Gustav’s movements and were debating when to begin evacuating.

As fears spread early Thursday, oil prices climbed past $120 a barrel, and were expected to rise higher, after having sunk as low as $113 a barrel earlier in the week. The Gulf accounts for about 25 percent of the United States’ domestic crude oil production and about 15 percent of the nation’s natural gas output.


Gustav began its path of destruction on Tuesday, when it hit Haiti with hurricane force. Flooding and landslides killed at least 15 people there and another eight in the neighboring Dominican Republic. Haiti, the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere, is particularly vulnerable to storm-related disasters because much of its forests have been chopped down and used for fuel, leaving the country with very little tree cover.

From there, the system moved west, cutting a path across the northeast coast of Jamaica, where it now inches along at a pace of about 8 miles an hour. Forecasters say Gustav could enter the Gulf late Saturday or early Sunday, and will feed off the warm water and moist air as it grows in might, slowly building as it careers toward Louisiana.



Great, New Orleans could get slammed again and higher oil prices. confused
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Reply #5 posted 08/29/08 11:17am

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Satellite image of Gustav)

New Orleans Faces Hurricane Threat
August 29, 2008
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Rescue workers were considering evacuating New Orleans as it faced a hurricane threat three years to the day that Katrina devastated the city.

Tropical storm Gustav, which is expected to strengthen into a hurricane, hit Jamaica on Thursday after leaving 67 people dead in Hispaniola, the island divided between Haiti and the Dominican Republic.

The US states of Texas and Louisiana put their national guards on standby, and New Orleans said a mandatory evacuation might be necessary.

Forecasters warned that Gustav's path remained uncertain. "It is simply impossible to determine exactly where and when Gustav will make final landfall," said Richard Knabb of the National Hurricane Centre in Miami.

"The chances of hurricane-force winds within the next five days are essentially the same at each individual location from the Florida Panhandle coast westward through the entire coastline of Louisiana."

Louisiana was not taking any chances. Governor Bobby Jindal declared a state of emergency to lay the groundwork for federal assistance. Texas Governor Rick Perry issued a disaster declaration, and together they put 8,000 National Guard troops on standby.

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said he would order a mandatory evacuation of the city if forecasters predict a Category-3 strike - or possibly even a Category-2 - within 72 hours.

The storm was centred on Jamaica's south-west coast and forecasters said it could strengthen into a hurricane before slamming into the wealthy banking enclave of Grand Cayman.

There were no immediate reports of casualties in Jamaica, but many people lost power and the streets of Kingston were deserted as heavy winds and rain lashed the capital.

Even as tourists searched for flights off the islands, officials urged calm. Theresa Foster, one of the owners of the Grand Caymanian Resort, said Gustav did not look as threatening as Hurricane Ivan, which destroyed 70% of Grand Cayman's buildings four years ago.
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Reply #6 posted 08/29/08 4:16pm

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This one's getting big. Going by the NHC stats, there's a 65% chance it will be Category 3 or higher on Sunday.
Thankfully, it may weaken a little before landfall on Monday evening - only a 35% chance it will be Category 3 or higher then.
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Reply #7 posted 08/29/08 4:44pm

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The creepy thing about it is that we're marking the 3 year anniversary (bad term for that event) of Katrina, and there's another storm coming right up the pipe.....creepier still is that in '05, I was attending a military course in GA....and now, coming into the same Labor Day weekend, who should find himself in another military course in another southern state with a storm coming right up the pipe??? hmmm yep...me again!! I was supposed to drive home this weekend, but my sister told me that they're already planning on evacuations tomorrow evening so I get to sit and hope against hope that it doesn't happen again.....

pray for New Orleans....my hometown can't take another hit!
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Reply #8 posted 08/29/08 6:52pm

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It appears now that the hurricane track will take it deeper into Texas. This is from a Friday evening hurricane report I read.

Maybe New Orleans, Slidell, Gulfport and Biloxi will be spared.

Image courtesy of the DrudgeReport.com


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Reply #9 posted 08/29/08 8:27pm

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I just hope that everyone takes it seriously this time around.

God forbid, but if it did hit, and the same type of massive flooding occurred, AND I saw more images of bloated bodies floating down the streets...heads would need to roll!!!!
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Reply #10 posted 08/30/08 11:42am

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Gustav's up to a Cat 4 now, with a decent chance of becoming a Cat.5 before reducing slightly before hitting Louisiana. Cuba's about to be hit . Almost an 80% chance of being Cat. 3 or above the morning it hits the U.S.

Very similar to Katrina. Let's hope that the comparisons end there.

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Reply #11 posted 08/30/08 11:48am

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I'm praying for a miracle, but those people can't be stubborn and stay around this time. neutral
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Reply #12 posted 08/30/08 11:54am

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New Orleans and the surrounding areas are under mandatory evacuations and the traffic on the highway heading away from New Orleans is pretty heavy and slow going.

Tomorrow they're changing to counterflow traffic on the highway so that all of the major highways will be going north.

I'm in Baton Rouge right now and we're not being evacuated.
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Reply #13 posted 08/30/08 5:18pm

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A word of wisdom from THIS hurricane (Katrina) survivor, formally from Metairie, Louisiana (now living in Arkansas):

Get the f*** out of the New Orleans area! You need to go as high up north as Monroe, Louisiana at the very least.
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Reply #14 posted 08/30/08 5:22pm

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JasmineFire said:

New Orleans and the surrounding areas are under mandatory evacuations and the traffic on the highway heading away from New Orleans is pretty heavy and slow going.

Tomorrow they're changing to counterflow traffic on the highway so that all of the major highways will be going north.

I'm in Baton Rouge right now and we're not being evacuated.


At least Baton Rouge will still exist, since the city isn't below sea level. But that city can still suffer serious wind & tornado damages. Flash flooding will still happen.

Again, you're better off in Monroe.
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Reply #15 posted 08/30/08 5:25pm

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Gustav slams Cuba as Cat 4 storm; many evacuated


HAVANA – Gustav slammed into Cuba's tobacco-growing western tip as a monstrous Category 4 hurricane Saturday while both Cubans and Americans scrambled to flee the storm as it roared toward the oil-rich Gulf of Mexico and New Orleans.

Forecasters said Gustav was just short of becoming a top-scale Category 5 hurricane as it hit Cuba's mainland after passing over its Isla de la Juventud province, where shrieking 150 mph (240 kph) winds toppled telephone poles, mango and almond trees and peeled back the tin roofs of homes.

Isla de la Juventud civil defense chief Ana Isla said there were "many people injured" on the island south of mainland Cuba, but no reports of deaths. She said nearly all its roads were washed out and that some regions were heavily flooded.

"It's been very difficult here," she said on state television.

Authorities evacuated at least 250,000 people from western Cuba, including Isla de la Juventud.
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Reply #16 posted 08/30/08 5:47pm

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http://www.wdsu.com/index.html

Everyone can use this site to keep up with the latest.
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Reply #17 posted 08/30/08 8:50pm

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TonyVanDam said:

JasmineFire said:

New Orleans and the surrounding areas are under mandatory evacuations and the traffic on the highway heading away from New Orleans is pretty heavy and slow going.

Tomorrow they're changing to counterflow traffic on the highway so that all of the major highways will be going north.

I'm in Baton Rouge right now and we're not being evacuated.


At least Baton Rouge will still exist, since the city isn't below sea level. But that city can still suffer serious wind & tornado damages. Flash flooding will still happen.

Again, you're better off in Monroe.


i'm not from LA so i don't even know where monroe is.

a friend of mine is in alexandria and he said i could come up there. shrug

the veterinary school is allowing the students to stay there with their pets. shrug
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Reply #18 posted 08/30/08 8:52pm

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JasmineFire said:

TonyVanDam said:



At least Baton Rouge will still exist, since the city isn't below sea level. But that city can still suffer serious wind & tornado damages. Flash flooding will still happen.

Again, you're better off in Monroe.


i'm not from LA so i don't even know where monroe is.

a friend of mine is in alexandria and he said i could come up there. shrug

the veterinary school is allowing the students to stay there with their pets. shrug

Monroe is farther north, next to Grambling. Good luck and stay safe. hug
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Reply #19 posted 08/30/08 8:54pm

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They are starting to say this could be the storm of the century. At least it seems like New Orleans is doing a decent job of getting people out. They have already evacutated 30,000 eldery & disabled, and have buses and trains available for people without cars. The National Gaurd is already there too.


What I want to know is why hasn't George Bush said anything about this? Is it because he knows his words would be pointless after Katrina?
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Reply #20 posted 08/30/08 10:06pm

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SCNDLS said:

JasmineFire said:



i'm not from LA so i don't even know where monroe is.

a friend of mine is in alexandria and he said i could come up there. shrug

the veterinary school is allowing the students to stay there with their pets. shrug

Monroe is farther north, next to Grambling. Good luck and stay safe. hug
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i've never even heard of grambling. confused thank you for the well wishes, though. hug i want to go back to Massachusetts right now, for real.

The veterinary school is built like a bunker or some other indestructable thing and I think that I'm going to go there tomorrow morning. The dean sent out a campus-wide email saying that students can always stay at the school with thier pets. I figure that I'll do that and then I can also help out in the ICU if any emergencies come in.
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Reply #21 posted 08/30/08 11:22pm

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SCNDLS said:

Gustav slams Cuba as Cat 4 storm; many evacuated


HAVANA – Gustav slammed into Cuba's tobacco-growing western tip as a monstrous Category 4 hurricane Saturday while both Cubans and Americans scrambled to flee the storm as it roared toward the oil-rich Gulf of Mexico and New Orleans.

Forecasters said Gustav was just short of becoming a top-scale Category 5 hurricane as it hit Cuba's mainland after passing over its Isla de la Juventud province, where shrieking 150 mph (240 kph) winds toppled telephone poles, mango and almond trees and peeled back the tin roofs of homes.

Isla de la Juventud civil defense chief Ana Isla said there were "many people injured" on the island south of mainland Cuba, but no reports of deaths. She said nearly all its roads were washed out and that some regions were heavily flooded.

"It's been very difficult here," she said on state television.

Authorities evacuated at least 250,000 people from western Cuba, including Isla de la Juventud.
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i'm glad you mentioned Cuba!!! one thing that's made me mad is that the 2 major news stations at least while i was watching didn't even seem to care that the eye of the storm just went over cuba! neutral nor did they seem to care about haiti or the other islands much confused confused confused
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Reply #22 posted 08/30/08 11:39pm

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Sat Aug 30, 3:58 PM ET
from yahoo.com


HAVANA (AFP) - Deadly hurricane Gustav intensified into an "extremely dangerous" category four storm Saturday as it struck Cuba Saturday, after leaving a trail of death and destruction across the Caribbean.




"Gustav has continued to strengthen and now has maximum winds near 145 miles per hour (230 kilometers per hour)," the US National Hurricane Center said.

Evacuations were underway in coastal areas from northwest Cuba to Louisiana in the United States, where Gustav was predicted make landfall Monday or early Tuesday, three years after superstorm Katrina devastated the city of New Orleans.

Civil defense authorities in Cuba's Pinar del Rio province and most of northern Cuba said they were moving 190,000 people to safety, mainly from coastal towns vulnerable to flooding before Gustav hits shore.

Havana, just to the west, also ordered its two-million population to be on alert and took precautions for heavy winds and rainfall.

The eye of the hurricane passed over the Isla de la Juventud, or Isle of Youth, to the south of the mainland early afternoon Saturday.

Early Saturday, a Caymans official reported heavy damage from Gustav on Cayman Brac, the large eastern island of the Caymans group, with power and water supplies down.

"We're hoping that it's going to settle down enough that we can do some damage assessment," said Ernie Scott, District Commissioner of the Sister Islands.

"I'm expecting the HMS Iron Duke early and they're going to be providing significant assistance in our damage assessment operations," he said, referring to the British Royal Navy frigate in the area.

Hundreds of people fled into shelters on Grand and Little Cayman islands as some areas were affected by flooding.

The US National Hurricane Center in Miami warned that tides could surge as much as 5.8 meters (19 feet) above normal in areas under the eye of the storm as it passes the Isle of Youth and mainland western Cuba.

At 2:00 pm (1800 GMT) the center of the hurricane was located about 155 miles (250 kilometers) east of the western tip of Cuba and 110 miles (180 kilometers) south of Havana.

Earlier this week Gustav left a path of destruction through Dominican Republic, Haiti and Jamaica, killing at least 81 people.

In Haiti, it left 66 dead plus 10 missing. In the neighboring Dominican Republic, the death toll stood at eight.

And in Jamaica the toll was seven, with many thousands displaced.

Although the heaviest of the rains had subsided, many Jamaicans worried about returning home. "It is all wet and I am afraid to sleep inside there," said Kingston housewife Charlene Markland.

Anxiety meanwhile grew on the US Gulf Coast over Gustav's trajectory, with New Orleans beginning mandatory evacuations of low-lying areas Saturday.

Roads out of New Orleans were jammed with people fleeing a potentially disastrous strike on the city just three years after Katrina left some 1,800 dead along the coast.

Major oil producers BP, ConocoPhillips and Shell on Thursday evacuated workers from their facilities in the gulf where nearly a quarter of US crude oil installations are located.

Meanwhile another tropical storm in the Atlantic well north of Puerto Rico, dubbed Hannah, was forecast to head to the west and strike the central Bahamas by Tuesday and then travel directly toward central Cuba.
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Reply #23 posted 08/31/08 2:34am

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Reply #24 posted 08/31/08 4:42am

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when is it likely to hit?
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Reply #25 posted 08/31/08 5:22am

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cborgman said:

when is it likely to hit?

last i heard it was supposed to hit on monday evening but the rain will start today.
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Reply #26 posted 08/31/08 6:11am

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JasmineFire said:

cborgman said:

when is it likely to hit?

last i heard it was supposed to hit on monday evening but the rain will start today.


It gained speed - it looks like it will hit about midday on Monday. Probably as a Cat. 4.
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Reply #27 posted 08/31/08 9:04am

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JasmineFire said:

SCNDLS said:


Monroe is farther north, next to Grambling. Good luck and stay safe. hug
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i've never even heard of grambling. confused thank you for the well wishes, though. hug i want to go back to Massachusetts right now, for real.

The veterinary school is built like a bunker or some other indestructable thing and I think that I'm going to go there tomorrow morning. The dean sent out a campus-wide email saying that students can always stay at the school with thier pets. I figure that I'll do that and then I can also help out in the ICU if any emergencies come in.

Grambling is the town where Grambling University is and Monroe is next to that. It's maybe an hour outside of Shreveport so it's way north of where you are.
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Reply #28 posted 08/31/08 9:32am

JasmineFire

SCNDLS said:

JasmineFire said:


i've never even heard of grambling. confused thank you for the well wishes, though. hug i want to go back to Massachusetts right now, for real.

The veterinary school is built like a bunker or some other indestructable thing and I think that I'm going to go there tomorrow morning. The dean sent out a campus-wide email saying that students can always stay at the school with thier pets. I figure that I'll do that and then I can also help out in the ICU if any emergencies come in.

Grambling is the town where Grambling University is and Monroe is next to that. It's maybe an hour outside of Shreveport so it's way north of where you are.

oh man...shreveport is like 4 hours away. I just went out real quick to grab some cash from the ATM and top off my gas tank and people are starting to get a little crazy. I tried to go to walmart to buy an air mattress bu they were closing down as i was trying to walk in. confused I'll just bring my foam mattress pad to school, i guess.
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Reply #29 posted 08/31/08 9:39am

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JasmineFire said:

SCNDLS said:


Grambling is the town where Grambling University is and Monroe is next to that. It's maybe an hour outside of Shreveport so it's way north of where you are.

oh man...shreveport is like 4 hours away. I just went out real quick to grab some cash from the ATM and top off my gas tank and people are starting to get a little crazy. I tried to go to walmart to buy an air mattress bu they were closing down as i was trying to walk in. confused I'll just bring my foam mattress pad to school, i guess.

Goodness confused Be safe.
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