Okaaay lol....

Here's the thing: you can't "know" you could "get it" without the experience of actually getting it...It's like you can't "know" you're generous without actually experiencing the act of being generous. Otherwise it's all vague concepts.

That means the pleasure and intensity of the physical act of "getting it" is what drives and supports whatever pleasures you get from just knowing you could get it...like I said earlier, one leads to the other. In that regard, the physical act of "getting it" HAS to be more pleasureable than just knowing you "could" get it. It can't be the equal of the physical act, either. The pleasure of the physical has to be such that it drives the desire to experience it again, which is the "knowing" part you're talking about...and that can only realistically happen if the physical out-pleasures the concept of knowing you "could" have the physical. Sometimes "knowing" is enough, but that doesn't mean it's equal.

So the way I see it, just the "knowing" by itself that you could get it, without the physical act OF getting it connected to it, would be far less pleasurable...physically, mentally, spirutially, metaphysically, and all other "allys" I didn't mention yet lol...because it would only remain a concept.

tension being just as stimulating as release. we know your answer tho love. don't worry.





(sorry, that was more like 3 sentence-fragments)

I agree about the bolded part.
I assume SirPsycho is talking about when you know somebody (or maybe not somebody, but people in general) would love to have sex with you, but you don't go for it, but it makes you feel desirable. If I interpreted that right, no I personally don't agree with the original question, but I can see it may work for others.

But imagine never having had sex even once in your life, but still knowing that someone wants to sleep with you desperately. It would be like saying you know you're amazingly strong, yet have never had to lift anything heavier than a pencil. "There are extremely heavy things out there and I can lift them...but I won't. Just knowing I could is as satisfying as actually lifting them."

I think we have to have the physical experience to truly understand these different concepts about ourselves to their fullest...what exactly is "strong" if you've never had to use that strength even once? What exactly does it mean to be "sexually desirable" if you've never experienced the desire of another in its physical form?

Concepts are never as strong, intense, pleasureable or painful as the experience itself.

then where does "i think therefor i am" fit?

(by the way...great analogy)

What's my answer then?

Well, since you're actually experiencing the act of thinking, it's no longer just a concept lol ...

we should be drinkin buddies.

I'm drunk right now

"fuck no. knowing he'd choke me don't quite cut it"

i'm sober.



you're a terrible drinkin buddy

I agree about the bolded part.
I assume SirPsycho is talking about when you know somebody (or maybe not somebody, but people in general) would love to have sex with you, but you don't go for it, but it makes you feel desirable. If I interpreted that right, no I personally don't agree with the original question, but I can see it may work for others.

But imagine never having had sex even once in your life, but still knowing that someone wants to sleep with you desperately. It would be like saying you know you're amazingly strong, yet have never had to lift anything heavier than a pencil. "There are extremely heavy things out there and I can lift them...but I won't. Just knowing I could is as satisfying as actually lifting them."

I think we have to have the physical experience to truly understand these different concepts about ourselves to their fullest...what exactly is "strong" if you've never had to use that strength even once? What exactly does it mean to be "sexually desirable" if you've never experienced the desire of another in its physical form?

Concepts are never as strong, intense, pleasureable or painful as the experience itself.

I am trying to remember how that felt. I don't think the tension was that different, just now I know more in detail what I miss if I don't do it. But maybe that makes it more intense . Whatever, your answer was a bit too philosophical for me today and I probably just sound like an idiot . And I am not even drunk.

You need to be...that's the only way any of my posts make sense ...

I am trying to remember how that felt. I don't think the tension was that different, just now I know more in detail what I miss if I don't do it. But maybe that makes it more intense . Whatever, your answer was a bit too philosophical for me today and I probably just sound like an idiot . And I am not even drunk.

That's what I was thinking .

You need to be...that's the only way any of my posts make sense ...

Ohhhh
Now I get it

Sometimes we are just too naive I guess....

You need to be...that's the only way any of my posts make sense ...

I live like a hermit

I need to ge out more


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Ohhhh
Now I get it

Ohhhh
Now I get it

Sometimes we are just too naive I guess....

Or too sober ...

I have actually had people say that to me