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Thread started 08/17/08 6:44pm

Gimmesomehorns

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How to use a or an in the english language?

My first language isnt english, so it sometimes gets embarrising when i misspell here on the org.
Im still have somethings to learn, i dont know when to use a or an.
How do i do?
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Reply #1 posted 08/17/08 6:46pm

mdiver

Ask Ocean wink
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Reply #2 posted 08/17/08 6:47pm

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Use "a" when the next word starts with a consonant and "an" if it starts with a vowel.
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Reply #3 posted 08/17/08 6:47pm

Alej

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What's your first language? biggrin
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Reply #4 posted 08/17/08 6:48pm

Gimmesomehorns

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Alej said:

What's your first language? biggrin

Swedish. cool
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Reply #5 posted 08/17/08 6:48pm

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JustErin said:

Use "a" when the next word starts with a consonant and "an" if it starts with a vowel.

What she said. geek
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Reply #6 posted 08/17/08 6:49pm

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An is used b4 vowelz-a,e,i,o,u (an apple,an egg,an icecream cone,an ocean,an umbrella)
All the other timez,use A
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Reply #7 posted 08/17/08 6:51pm

Alej

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Gimmesomehorns said:

Alej said:

What's your first language? biggrin

Swedish. cool


Amessing cool
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Reply #8 posted 08/17/08 6:52pm

Alej

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sexxydancer said:

An is used b4 vowelz-a,e,i,o,u (an apple,an egg,an icecream cone,an ocean,an umbrella)
All the other timez,use A
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Reply #9 posted 08/17/08 6:57pm

Protege

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Alej said:

sexxydancer said:

An is used b4 vowelz-a,e,i,o,u (an apple,an egg,an icecream cone,an ocean,an umbrella)
All the other timez,use A
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englizh nod

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Reply #10 posted 08/17/08 6:58pm

Alej

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Protege said:

Alej said:




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englizh nod


spit

more like :rtrd:
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Reply #11 posted 08/17/08 7:00pm

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JustErin said:

Use "a" when the next word starts with a consonant and "an" if it starts with a vowel.


GIMMESOMEVOWELS!

I wanna a vowel, Erin.
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Reply #12 posted 08/17/08 7:01pm

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JustErin said:

Use "a" when the next word starts with a consonant and "an" if it starts with a vowel.


That's mostly true, but it's more accurate to say use "an" before words starting with a vowel sound, not necessarily before a vowel (e.g., "an hour" and "a unique opportunity").
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Reply #13 posted 08/17/08 7:03pm

HamsterHuey

Efan said:

JustErin said:

Use "a" when the next word starts with a consonant and "an" if it starts with a vowel.


That's mostly true, but it's more accurate to say use "an" before words starting with a vowel sound, not necessarily before a vowel (e.g., "an hour" and "a unique opportunity").



An Erin.

But to be more concise; A Drunk Erin.
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Reply #14 posted 08/17/08 7:18pm

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HamsterHuey said:

Efan said:



That's mostly true, but it's more accurate to say use "an" before words starting with a vowel sound, not necessarily before a vowel (e.g., "an hour" and "a unique opportunity").



An Erin.

But to be more concise; A Drunk Erin.


See, that's why I stayed away from examples. I knew the usage examples would turn coldblooded... disbelief
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Reply #15 posted 08/17/08 7:21pm

HamsterHuey

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coldblooded...


A Bloody Mary.
A Happy Erin.
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Reply #16 posted 08/17/08 7:34pm

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some people use "an" in front of words that begin with an "h" sound, e.g., "an historic."


i want to slap the piss out of those people. so don't do that.
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Reply #17 posted 08/17/08 7:42pm

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Gimmesomehorns said:

My first language isnt english, so it sometimes gets embarrising when i misspell here on the org.
Im still have somethings to learn, i dont know when to use a or an.
How do i do?

Efan's rule is correct.

And don't be embarrassed! I applaud you for trying your hand at a second language. Many native English speakers I know have hardly mastered their own language! lol
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #18 posted 08/17/08 7:44pm

Byron

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Ask Ocean wink

Then do the opposite nod...
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Reply #19 posted 08/17/08 7:46pm

mdiver

Byron said:

mdiver said:

Ask Ocean wink

Then do the opposite nod...


Precisely lol
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Reply #20 posted 08/17/08 8:07pm

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errant said:

some people use "an" in front of words that begin with an "h" sound, e.g., "an historic."


i want to slap the piss out of those people. so don't do that.


I do that. boxed

It just sounds better. lol
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Reply #21 posted 08/17/08 8:12pm

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CarrieMpls said:

errant said:

some people use "an" in front of words that begin with an "h" sound, e.g., "an historic."


i want to slap the piss out of those people. so don't do that.


I do that. boxed

It just sounds better. lol


Both are acceptable currently but mostly because the quantity of use "an" gets in that situation.
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Reply #22 posted 08/17/08 8:23pm

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It's rather complicated. Pronunciations of words change over the centuries and the printed word adapts more slowly. So a common one is 'an hotel', where the 'h' sound has been added on later after been borrowed from the French language without the 'h'.


CarrieMpls said:

errant said:

some people use "an" in front of words that begin with an "h" sound, e.g., "an historic."


i want to slap the piss out of those people. so don't do that.


I do that. boxed

It just sounds better. lol


You are quite correct. But only if you say it in a Dick Van Dyke 'Mary Poppins' London accent, e.g., "an 'istoric." wink

D'oh! edit
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Reply #23 posted 08/17/08 8:27pm

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CarrieMpls said:

errant said:

some people use "an" in front of words that begin with an "h" sound, e.g., "an historic."


i want to slap the piss out of those people. so don't do that.


I do that. boxed

It just sounds better. lol



sorry biggrin

to me it sounds pretentious, yet incorrect. i've only noticed this happening in the last few years.
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Reply #24 posted 08/17/08 8:29pm

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CarrieMpls said:

errant said:

some people use "an" in front of words that begin with an "h" sound, e.g., "an historic."


i want to slap the piss out of those people. so don't do that.


I do that. boxed

It just sounds better. lol

The rule of thumb is that you should use "an" if the h-word has the accent on the second syllable. "An historic" does sound better (particularly if you pronounce "a" as a schwa), but "an hippopotamus" does not. Of course, there are exceptions.
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Reply #25 posted 08/17/08 8:40pm

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Efan said:

JustErin said:

Use "a" when the next word starts with a consonant and "an" if it starts with a vowel.


That's mostly true, but it's more accurate to say use "an" before words starting with a vowel sound, not necessarily before a vowel

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Correct.
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Reply #26 posted 08/17/08 8:54pm

Efan

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AlexdeParis said:

CarrieMpls said:



I do that. boxed

It just sounds better. lol

The rule of thumb is that you should use "an" if the h-word has the accent on the second syllable. "An historic" does sound better (particularly if you pronounce "a" as a schwa), but "an hippopotamus" does not. Of course, there are exceptions.


I've never heard that before, and I don't think it bears up ("a hysterically funny person," "a hermaphrodite," "a hereditary condition," just to name a few). It really just matters if the "h" is pronounced or not. If you pronounce the "h" in "historic," you shouldn't use "an."
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Reply #27 posted 08/17/08 9:08pm

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Efan said:

AlexdeParis said:


The rule of thumb is that you should use "an" if the h-word has the accent on the second syllable. "An historic" does sound better (particularly if you pronounce "a" as a schwa), but "an hippopotamus" does not. Of course, there are exceptions.


I've never heard that before, and I don't think it bears up ("a hysterically funny person," "a hermaphrodite," "a hereditary condition," just to name a few). It really just matters if the "h" is pronounced or not. If you pronounce the "h" in "historic," you shouldn't use "an."

Well, it pleases me to teach you something you'd never heard.

One tricky case comes up from time to time: is it "a historic occasion" or "an historic occasion"? Some speakers favor the latter — more British than American speakers, but you'll find them in both places — using an on longish words (three or more syllables) beginning with h, where the first syllable isn't accented. They'd say, for instance, "a hístory textbook" (accent on the first syllable) but "an históric event." (Likewise "a hábit" but "an habítual offender," "a hýpothetical question" but "an hypóthesis.") Still, most guides prefer a before any h that's sounded: "a historic occasion," "a hysterical joke," "a habitual offender" — but "an honor" and "an hour" because those h's aren't sounded. [Entry revised 21 April 2006; revised again 10 December 2006.]

From: http://andromeda.rutgers....ing/a.html

Obviously, there isn't total agreement on the matter.
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Reply #28 posted 08/17/08 9:56pm

Efan

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AlexdeParis said:[quote]

Efan said:


Well, it pleases me to teach you something you'd never heard.

One tricky case comes up from time to time: is it "a historic occasion" or "an historic occasion"? Some speakers favor the latter — more British than American speakers, but you'll find them in both places — using an on longish words (three or more syllables) beginning with h, where the first syllable isn't accented. They'd say, for instance, "a hístory textbook" (accent on the first syllable) but "an históric event." (Likewise "a hábit" but "an habítual offender," "a hýpothetical question" but "an hypóthesis.") Still, most guides prefer a before any h that's sounded: "a historic occasion," "a hysterical joke," "a habitual offender" — but "an honor" and "an hour" because those h's aren't sounded. [Entry revised 21 April 2006; revised again 10 December 2006.]

From: http://andromeda.rutgers....ing/a.html

Obviously, there isn't total agreement on the matter.



Ah, I guess I was being too American English-centric in my answer.
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Reply #29 posted 08/17/08 10:06pm

Gimmesomehorns

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Another thing.
Do i say didnt saw or didnt see?
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