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Reply #60 posted 08/17/08 10:52pm

JustErin

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Well, I think I'll give it a try this week. Might talk to a stylist first. Might even end up getting it done professionally - which I never usually do. I like to do these things on my own.
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Reply #61 posted 08/17/08 10:55pm

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Have you ever tried Henna to dye your hair? My girlfriend used it, it was also a reddish color, but it had a lot of the natural variations of hair visible through the color, which looked great , I thought.

It isn't permanant, either.
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Reply #62 posted 08/17/08 10:56pm

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NDRU said:

Have you ever tried Henna to dye your hair? My girlfriend used it, it was also a reddish color, but it had a lot of the natural variations of hair visible through the color, which looked great , I thought.

It isn't permanant, either.


You're not supposed to use permanent colour over henna. So if it fucks up I won't be able to fix it permanently. And I don't think you can use henna over dyed hair to begin with....I think.
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Reply #63 posted 08/17/08 11:01pm

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JustErin said:

NDRU said:

Have you ever tried Henna to dye your hair? My girlfriend used it, it was also a reddish color, but it had a lot of the natural variations of hair visible through the color, which looked great , I thought.

It isn't permanant, either.


You're not supposed to use permanent colour over henna. So if it fucks up I won't be able to fix it permanently. And I don't think you can use henna over dyed hair to begin with....I think.


I think you can use henna over dyed hair, but I'm just a dumb meterosexual, so don't quote me!
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Reply #64 posted 08/18/08 12:28am

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If you have pigments in your hair that are of a green/blue base (usually artificial darkest browns or black) these dyes are very hard to strip out of the hair.

The hair has to be stripped repeatedly then given protein treatments so it doesn't get too weak.

If the hair is re-dyed a red (red dyes have the largest molecules so they "bleed", {fade} much quicker) the color will not hold too well. You will have to get it touched up with semi-permanents often and glossy overlays do help.

The gray roots will be a different color, but any good colorist will match it very closely, so that its virtually undetectable.

* A red semi-perm will fade to pink on gray hair if not done right.

hug go to a professional, don't chance walking around with demarkations on your head.

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Reply #65 posted 08/18/08 1:14am

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Ocean said:

JustErin said:



So, you pretty much need to bleach first to get a good result?

I don't think my hair can handle that. It's very long and thick, bleaching the whole thing would be a disaster I think. sad
Try for a darker deeper red then ..so u don't have to bleach (damage) ur hair smile

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Reply #66 posted 08/18/08 1:40am

HamsterHuey

I like the hair you got. As I am really thick and all, when it comes to female maintainance, is the colour you have now your natural color?
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Reply #67 posted 08/18/08 2:09am

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To get a really bright red result you have to bleach it first, thats the only way. I have had all types of different red colours over the years and they all fade away in a couple of weeks, especially if you wash your hair a lot. Currently I get it bleached, then they dye it and then they tint it so that the result is more bright and shiny. After about 4-6 weeks, the colour of the tinge is pretty much gone (everytime I wash it it fades away more and the water looks totally red bawl)and the hair is still red because of the dying done, but it doesn't look nearly as beautitiful and bright. As I luckily don't have white roots I don't have experiences with these, but if you just tinge it which is possible without getting blonde first the result is even diffirent if your roots are a bit darker then the rest of the hair as a result of sun exposure etc., so I am quite sure the roots won't have the exact same red tone as the rest of the hair. If it's dyed it shouldn't be a problem IMO.
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Reply #68 posted 08/18/08 2:29am

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JustErin said:

Alej said:

I think your hair is ota amessing the way it is but that colour is FIERCE nod


Thanks!

I just picture my hair being long and big and wavy and fierce red and I wanna cream my jeans in excitement.

But I am really nervous that 1) the colour won't turn out right and 2) I'll look like shit with red hair.



It might sound silly but why don't you try a wig on first? It would allow you to find the perfect shade before doing the real thing.
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Reply #69 posted 08/18/08 2:34am

HamsterHuey

MarySharon said:

JustErin said:



Thanks!

I just picture my hair being long and big and wavy and fierce red and I wanna cream my jeans in excitement.

But I am really nervous that 1) the colour won't turn out right and 2) I'll look like shit with red hair.



It might sound silly but why don't you try a wig on first? It would allow you to find the perfect shade before doing the real thing.


And you can use them in kinky role playing later on.
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Reply #70 posted 08/18/08 3:41am

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Erin I used to dye my hair red for years and in my experience it is very hard to maintain and discolours really easily... just wanted to throw that in there

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Reply #71 posted 08/18/08 4:21am

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HamsterHuey said:

MarySharon said:




It might sound silly but why don't you try a wig on first? It would allow you to find the perfect shade before doing the real thing.


And you can use them in kinky role playing later on.



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Reply #72 posted 08/18/08 4:52am

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ack!

I'm out the door but I'll respond when I can.

It's totally possible and would look great on you, I think.
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Reply #73 posted 08/18/08 6:28am

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Alright, here are my thoughts…

You may be able to go bright red without bleaching first. I would have a professional do it, no question, for that drastic of a change. Depending on what they’re mixing, they can get the color to lift along with adding the red. But they may say it’s too dark anyway. A professional will also know how best to touch up your roots, I wouldn’t even attempt that on your own. If you’re not bleaching first, you’re going to have two very different shades going on to cover and a stylist will know how best to work with that.
Also – reds fade fast. That’s just the way it is. I can tell a difference in my shade on almost a weekly basis. There are all kinds of things you can do to combat that – washing only when absolutely necessary (I use baby powder to soak up oil on days I don’t wash), using cool water to wash, etc. but it’s going to happen. For me the trick has been finding a color that fades WELL – I actually get more compliments on my color from strangers the more washed out I think it is. lol And in my experience, you’re not going to find that in a drugstore color.
All that said, I only have it done every 6-8 weeks or so. So bright red hair does take a bit of maintenance. But it’s totally do-able.
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Reply #74 posted 08/18/08 6:31am

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CarrieMpls said:

Alright, here are my thoughts…

You may be able to go bright red without bleaching first. I would have a professional do it, no question, for that drastic of a change. Depending on what they’re mixing, they can get the color to lift along with adding the red. But they may say it’s too dark anyway. A professional will also know how best to touch up your roots, I wouldn’t even attempt that on your own. If you’re not bleaching first, you’re going to have two very different shades going on to cover and a stylist will know how best to work with that.
Also – reds fade fast. That’s just the way it is. I can tell a difference in my shade on almost a weekly basis. There are all kinds of things you can do to combat that – washing only when absolutely necessary (I use baby powder to soak up oil on days I don’t wash), using cool water to wash, etc. but it’s going to happen. For me the trick has been finding a color that fades WELL – I actually get more compliments on my color from strangers the more washed out I think it is. lol And in my experience, you’re not going to find that in a drugstore color.
All that said, I only have it done every 6-8 weeks or so. So bright red hair does take a bit of maintenance. But it’s totally do-able.


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Reply #75 posted 08/18/08 6:31am

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JustErin said:

evenstar3 said:

it depends on your skin tone a lot, doesn't it? i personally don't like bright red on people unless it's mixed in with another color or if they have super pale skin. hmmm


I'm not pale, but I am also not olive complected.

I've had redish hair in the past, actually I've had pretty much all colours from platinum to darkest brown and they were all good for my skin tone. I'm lucky like that.

But this is pretty drastic, so I dunno. shrug


I've had platinum to black and all have looked good on me too. If you have the right skin-tone, you can rock any color.
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Reply #76 posted 08/18/08 6:33am

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Serious said:

To get a really bright red result you have to bleach it first, thats the only way.


Not for everyone. Bleach hasn't touched my hair in years and I get bright, firey reds all the time.
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Reply #77 posted 08/18/08 6:33am

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Cloudbuster said:



boff


yay!

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Reply #78 posted 08/18/08 6:53am

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I really wanna do it, but I'm scared! lol

I am used to washing my hair every day and the idea of it really fading fast is a total bummer.

Also, I'd also have to have all my hair (not just the roots) touched up cuz it fades, right? That's a huge undertaking in itself, not to mention very expensive since I need to use of some many units of colour.

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Reply #79 posted 08/18/08 6:54am

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HamsterHuey said:

I like the hair you got. As I am really thick and all, when it comes to female maintainance, is the colour you have now your natural color?


Sooooo?
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Reply #80 posted 08/18/08 7:09am

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HamsterHuey said:

HamsterHuey said:

I like the hair you got. As I am really thick and all, when it comes to female maintainance, is the colour you have now your natural color?


Sooooo?


Oh, sorry. I missed that.

No, my natural colour is blonde...well, mostly grey now. It's coloured dark and a bitch to maintain actually.
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Reply #81 posted 08/18/08 7:13am

HamsterHuey

JustErin said:

HamsterHuey said:



Sooooo?


Oh, sorry. I missed that.

No, my natural colour is blonde...well, mostly grey now. It's coloured dark and a bitch to maintain actually.


Well, I would suggest two things then; first, get a somewhat different 'do'; maybe shorten it and thin it out, so you have less to colour.

Then go for red, sexy!
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Reply #82 posted 08/18/08 7:18am

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JustErin said:

I really wanna do it, but I'm scared! lol

I am used to washing my hair every day and the idea of it really fading fast is a total bummer.

Also, I'd also have to have all my hair (not just the roots) touched up cuz it fades, right? That's a huge undertaking in itself, not to mention very expensive since I need to use of some many units of colour.

sigh

Don’t be scared! lol

Just be aware of the maintenance involved. If you’re not willing to give it the extra care, it’s not going to be worth it for you.
And you CAN wash your hair every day, just know that will cause it to fade just a little bit faster.
And as I said – you just have to accept it will fade. It’s a matter of it fading nicely.

And yes, when I get my hair re-done, we put color on my roots first and let that process for a while, then we run it through the whole rest of my hair and let it process for 15 minutes, then wash it all out.
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Reply #83 posted 08/18/08 7:20am

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HamsterHuey said:

JustErin said:



Oh, sorry. I missed that.

No, my natural colour is blonde...well, mostly grey now. It's coloured dark and a bitch to maintain actually.


Well, I would suggest two things then; first, get a somewhat different 'do'; maybe shorten it and thin it out, so you have less to colour.

Then go for red, sexy!


I thought of this. I am just absolutely too attached to my hair to go shorter. I am very happy with my hair style as is.
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Reply #84 posted 08/18/08 7:21am

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CarrieMpls said:

JustErin said:

I really wanna do it, but I'm scared! lol

I am used to washing my hair every day and the idea of it really fading fast is a total bummer.

Also, I'd also have to have all my hair (not just the roots) touched up cuz it fades, right? That's a huge undertaking in itself, not to mention very expensive since I need to use of some many units of colour.

sigh

Don’t be scared! lol

Just be aware of the maintenance involved. If you’re not willing to give it the extra care, it’s not going to be worth it for you.
And you CAN wash your hair every day, just know that will cause it to fade just a little bit faster.
And as I said – you just have to accept it will fade. It’s a matter of it fading nicely.

And yes, when I get my hair re-done, we put color on my roots first and let that process for a while, then we run it through the whole rest of my hair and let it process for 15 minutes, then wash it all out.


What to do? What to do?? lol
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Reply #85 posted 08/18/08 8:09am

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I loved being a redhead. The brighter the better. But it was so hard to maintain, especially since my hair is mostly gray at this point. I always did my hair on my own and since I have light hair, it took the bright red really well.

Red is a son of a bitch to get out. I'm still trying to get it out after 3 professional color sessions.

I think red will look good on you. Your skin tone can definitely support it. And if you don't like it, it's just hair. It will grow back.
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Reply #86 posted 08/18/08 8:22am

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JuliePurplehead said:

I loved being a redhead. The brighter the better. But it was so hard to maintain, especially since my hair is mostly gray at this point. I always did my hair on my own and since I have light hair, it took the bright red really well.

Red is a son of a bitch to get out. I'm still trying to get it out after 3 professional color sessions.

I think red will look good on you. Your skin tone can definitely support it. And if you don't like it, it's just hair. It will grow back.


I'll just go back dark if I hate it. But I am a little worried about the colour on the regrowth.
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Reply #87 posted 08/18/08 8:33am

Tremolina

Don't do it.

Red won't get out easily and you will look silly for months, or you will be running to your hair stylist every week and lose a fortune.

Unless you have reddisch brown hair yourself:

DON'T DO IT.
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Reply #88 posted 08/18/08 8:34am

Tremolina

JustErin said:

Oh, another question.

My roots are almost 100% grey. Will this cause touch ups to be pink?


Uhm no more like orange. neutral
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Reply #89 posted 08/18/08 8:34am

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Tremolina said:

Don't do it.

Red won't get out easily and you will look silly for months, or you will be running to your hair stylist every week and lose a fortune.

Unless you have reddisch brown hair yourself:

DON'T DO IT.


Wait, why would I be stuck with it? I would just colour it really dark again if I hate it.
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