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Thread started 08/12/08 2:43pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Did a death tear your family apart or bring you together?

This doesn't necessarily apply to my extended family but ever since my cousin died, her immediate family have basically been canibalizing each other. Everyone is divided, money is an issue. A big issue. My aunt and uncle aren't in good health but the surviving siblings, brother and sister, are in rivalries and nobody is appreciative of what still stands even though my cousin is gone. It is so sad to me and it hurts me so bad.

I'm wondering, is this normal for families to go through when experiencing a loss like this? That's basically my question here. This was the first death other than from old age in my family and part of me wants to get involved but it is all such a huge mess that I don't think there is anything I can do.
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Reply #1 posted 08/12/08 2:45pm

rachel3

We have had many deaths in my family. It destroyed the family and it is the reason I am estranged from them now!!!

They wanted to be all about money instead of doing the right things like taking care of the elders in the family!!! Sickening to say the least!!!
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Reply #2 posted 08/12/08 2:46pm

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rachel3 said:

We have had many deaths in my family. It destroyed the family and it is the reason I am estranged from them now!!!

They wanted to be all about money instead of doing the right things like taking care of the elders in the family!!! Sickening to say the least!!!

You have no idea the drama surrounding the money. Oh. MY. GOD! disbelief
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Reply #3 posted 08/12/08 2:46pm

Stymie

When my nephew died six years ago, it tore my relationship with my youngest sister apart. We still don't really speak to each other.
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Reply #4 posted 08/12/08 2:49pm

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Stymie said:

When my nephew died six years ago, it tore my relationship with my youngest sister apart. We still don't really speak to each other.

Why? Was it the grief? I feel like this just gave rise to a lifetime full of issues that everyone is or has had with each other and for some reason my cousin's death gave everyone a perceieved license to ill. I can't believe it.
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Reply #5 posted 08/12/08 2:50pm

DanceWme

Every death that has happened in my family has made us all come together one way or another.

But... my grandmother is on her death bed now. The doctor has given her hours to days left and my family is acting like damn fools. Instead of spending her last days with her, they wanna bullshit. Its stupid. But im getting my time in with her and thats all I can handle at this point.
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Reply #6 posted 08/12/08 2:50pm

JessieJ

The deaths in my family have always brought us closer together, at least during my lifetime. I know that when my grandfather passed, his side of the family basically cut off all communication with my grandmother and the children disbelief
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Reply #7 posted 08/12/08 2:53pm

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DanceWme said:

Every death that has happened in my family has made us all come together one way or another.

But... my grandmother is on her death bed now. The doctor has given her hours to days left and my family is acting like damn fools. Instead of spending her last days with her, they wanna bullshit. Its stupid. But im getting my time in with her and thats all I can handle at this point.

Damn sad hug pray
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Reply #8 posted 08/12/08 2:54pm

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DanceWme said:

Every death that has happened in my family has made us all come together one way or another.

But... my grandmother is on her death bed now. The doctor has given her hours to days left and my family is acting like damn fools. Instead of spending her last days with her, they wanna bullshit. Its stupid. But im getting my time in with her and thats all I can handle at this point.

Baby, I'm sorry this is happening but I am so glad that you are making the most of the time you have left. I have spent a lot of time with my grandmother because I know one day she will not be here anymore. I don't want to look back and say I should have. I want to say I did nod

hug When she passes, just know you have family here that will always welcome you with open arms and love kisses

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Reply #9 posted 08/12/08 2:58pm

DanceWme

JessieJ said:

Damn sad hug pray


hug


SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Baby, I'm sorry this is happening but I am so glad that you are making the most of the time you have left. I have spent a lot of time with my grandmother because I know one day she will not be here anymore. I don't want to look back and say I should have. I want to say I did nod

hug When she passes, just know you have family here that will always welcome you with open arms and love kisses

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Thank You!
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Reply #10 posted 08/12/08 3:00pm

rachel3

Exactly give folks their props and flowers while they are alive!!! I always try to end a conversation or my last visit with a person on a happy note!! I may not see then again, we are living in perilous times and nothing is promised to any of us.

I also say I Am Sorry and I Love You a whole lot more too, never did before but life has a way of making you appreciate even the little things!!!
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Reply #11 posted 08/12/08 3:03pm

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rachel3 said:

Exactly give folks their props and flowers while they are alive!!! I always try to end a conversation or my last visit with a person on a happy note!! I may not see then again, we are living in perilous times and nothing is promised to any of us.

I also say I Am Sorry and I Love You a whole lot more too, never did before but life has a way of making you appreciate even the little things!!!


You know, here is the thing. I have wanted to share my articles that I have written, or at least tell my family how my cousin's death has brought me closer to the path I know I am meant to walk. But now things have gotten to vicious and so evil I don't know if it's even appropriate anymore. I want to do this for me but I also want to let them know that there is a purpose in her death and that it isn't completely senseless.

I have been destroyed by my cousin's death but I can't imagine my cousin's and my aunt and uncle and how they really feel. I just want to yell at everyone to just fucking STOP IT but it's like one of those things that if you get in the middle you're going to get mowed down too. sad
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Reply #12 posted 08/12/08 3:05pm

Stymie

DanceWme said:

Every death that has happened in my family has made us all come together one way or another.

But... my grandmother is on her death bed now. The doctor has given her hours to days left and my family is acting like damn fools. Instead of spending her last days with her, they wanna bullshit. Its stupid. But im getting my time in with her and thats all I can handle at this point.
I am sorry Steph. hug

My grnadmother is all I have and she has early stage Alzheimer's and dementia has set in. When she leaves this life, the rest of our family will fall apart. We barely speak as it is.
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Reply #13 posted 08/12/08 3:06pm

Stymie

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Stymie said:

When my nephew died six years ago, it tore my relationship with my youngest sister apart. We still don't really speak to each other.

Why? Was it the grief? I feel like this just gave rise to a lifetime full of issues that everyone is or has had with each other and for some reason my cousin's death gave everyone a perceieved license to ill. I can't believe it.
The younger sisters have always been jealous of the older ones. The shit just came to a head when my nephew passed on.
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Reply #14 posted 08/12/08 3:11pm

DanceWme

Stymie said:

DanceWme said:

Every death that has happened in my family has made us all come together one way or another.

But... my grandmother is on her death bed now. The doctor has given her hours to days left and my family is acting like damn fools. Instead of spending her last days with her, they wanna bullshit. Its stupid. But im getting my time in with her and thats all I can handle at this point.
I am sorry Steph. hug

My grnadmother is all I have and she has early stage Alzheimer's and dementia has set in. When she leaves this life, the rest of our family will fall apart. We barely speak as it is.

hug
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Any death should always bring people together.
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Reply #15 posted 08/12/08 3:33pm

Anxiety

both of my parents have told me over the years that when my maternal grandfather died, it was a catalyst for my parents' divorce. they had put so much time and effort into helping my grandmother care for him in the final years of his life, they said that once he died that they realized they had nothing left in common anymore and didn't want to keep the marriage going just for the sake of pretending for my sake.

ironically, i think my mother's death brought me closer in my own relationship because my partner was probably the first person i've ever dated who treated my mother like part of his own family and took on the responsibilities of helping me deal with the last weeks of her life and all the details of what came after.
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Reply #16 posted 08/12/08 3:58pm

Stymie

Anxiety said:

both of my parents have told me over the years that when my maternal grandfather died, it was a catalyst for my parents' divorce. they had put so much time and effort into helping my grandmother care for him in the final years of his life, they said that once he died that they realized they had nothing left in common anymore and didn't want to keep the marriage going just for the sake of pretending for my sake.

ironically, i think my mother's death brought me closer in my own relationship because my partner was probably the first person i've ever dated who treated my mother like part of his own family and took on the responsibilities of helping me deal with the last weeks of her life and all the details of what came after.
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Reply #17 posted 08/12/08 4:00pm

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Sadly, it happened in my family as well. A couple of weeks after my grandfather died everything was fine, then my aunt, who lived with my grandfather because her husband left her years ago, started to want EVERYTHING. She wanted both of his houses and she just wanted money, properties and she started to make everyone fight. It was so sad cause we used to be ota close sad

flip u my aunt


and hug supa
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Reply #18 posted 08/12/08 4:05pm

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When my cousin/godsister died last year, it brought my family together. My aunt(her mother) and my uncle hadn't talked in some time and were at odds for several reasons (his wife instigated alot of the drama), but when my cousin passed away, they realized all the crap was worthless. my mom and aunt couldn't stop crying and smiling when my uncle hugged them and said "my baby sisters" this was the closest I had seen them since I was really young and they all get along great biggrin
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Reply #19 posted 08/12/08 4:26pm

Natisse

It's torn my Brother and Step-Dad's relationship apart when my Mum died nod that was 10 years ago (almost to the day) and they are now farther from talking than ever... It also caused a lot of hurt in others too, that hasn't healed, but not 'tearing us apart' as such

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Reply #20 posted 08/12/08 4:34pm

Byron

It brought us much closer together, although we were already very close. It REaLLY brought my niece and I amazingly close rose...it was her mother (my sister) who died. neutral...
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Reply #21 posted 08/12/08 8:53pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

This doesn't necessarily apply to my extended family but ever since my cousin died, her immediate family have basically been canibalizing each other. Everyone is divided, money is an issue. A big issue. My aunt and uncle aren't in good health but the surviving siblings, brother and sister, are in rivalries and nobody is appreciative of what still stands even though my cousin is gone. It is so sad to me and it hurts me so bad.

I'm wondering, is this normal for families to go through when experiencing a loss like this? That's basically my question here. This was the first death other than from old age in my family and part of me wants to get involved but it is all such a huge mess that I don't think there is anything I can do.


It's happened in my family too. It's pretty common, from what I've been told and what I've read - especially with more tragic deaths like your cousin's.

hug Things will even out eventually. I'm very relieved to say that there's been a happy ending in my family and there's been a lot of healing happening.
I hope the same for yours, honey.
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Reply #22 posted 08/13/08 12:28am

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Anxiety said:

both of my parents have told me over the years that when my maternal grandfather died, it was a catalyst for my parents' divorce. they had put so much time and effort into helping my grandmother care for him in the final years of his life, they said that once he died that they realized they had nothing left in common anymore and didn't want to keep the marriage going just for the sake of pretending for my sake.

ironically, i think my mother's death brought me closer in my own relationship because my partner was probably the first person i've ever dated who treated my mother like part of his own family and took on the responsibilities of helping me deal with the last weeks of her life and all the details of what came after.




That is what a good caring partner does. rose
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Reply #23 posted 08/13/08 12:37am

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tore it apart...ever see Soul Food? disbelief
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Reply #24 posted 08/13/08 7:59am

applekisses

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tore it apart...ever see Soul Food? disbelief


nod That came out around the time the drama in my family was happening. I bought a copy of it and sat down each person in my family and made them watch it. It really helped us. That movie is near and dear to my heart.
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Reply #25 posted 08/13/08 8:36am

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My mother's death last year brought my brother, one of my sisters, and myself much closer. Me and my brother drink together every Friday night. I speak to one of my sisters from time to time on the phone and I speak to my other sister, who lives out of state, periodically also. Before my mother's death, we hardly ever spoke to or saw each other at all.

As far as fighting over money goes, there's no fighting if there ain't no money to be given out. From the money that was left over from her burial insurance, we each got about $1200 each. Other than that, my mother had no money and her bank account was completely empty even before she died, which was no surprise because in Mississippi, we live paycheck to paycheck.
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Reply #26 posted 08/13/08 7:26pm

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applekisses said:

PleasurePrinciple said:

tore it apart...ever see Soul Food? disbelief


nod That came out around the time the drama in my family was happening. I bought a copy of it and sat down each person in my family and made them watch it. It really helped us. That movie is near and dear to my heart.

eek wow,what a great idea hug
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Reply #27 posted 08/14/08 12:23pm

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Thank you everyone for replying. In many ways my cousin's death has brought me much closer to my family. I would like to think that if it were a death in my immediate family I would become closer to everyone who survived. What is happening between my aunt/uncle/cousins is probably going to destroy each and every relationship between them. It's just awful.
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Reply #28 posted 08/14/08 12:23pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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applekisses said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

This doesn't necessarily apply to my extended family but ever since my cousin died, her immediate family have basically been canibalizing each other. Everyone is divided, money is an issue. A big issue. My aunt and uncle aren't in good health but the surviving siblings, brother and sister, are in rivalries and nobody is appreciative of what still stands even though my cousin is gone. It is so sad to me and it hurts me so bad.

I'm wondering, is this normal for families to go through when experiencing a loss like this? That's basically my question here. This was the first death other than from old age in my family and part of me wants to get involved but it is all such a huge mess that I don't think there is anything I can do.


It's happened in my family too. It's pretty common, from what I've been told and what I've read - especially with more tragic deaths like your cousin's.

hug Things will even out eventually. I'm very relieved to say that there's been a happy ending in my family and there's been a lot of healing happening.
I hope the same for yours, honey.


Thank you baby kisses
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Reply #29 posted 08/14/08 1:56pm

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A death. It tore my family completely apart.

And of course, it was all about money.
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