Yes I found the Joker totally scary to watch.

I can't help but be creeped out by the fact it was Heath's final role.

Jack Nicholson said "I warned him..." regarding Ledger's death. Was that in regards to getting to wrapped up in the role?

That movie was dark as hell!

I underestimated the creepiness



It's what made the movie awesome for me

I Creepy

Cinnie said:

That's why it's the best Batman movie, IMO. Nolan went back to basics, and it shows in his work.

I donno. I kinda appreciate the story of being dropped in acid to turn into the Joker better than psycho parent that cut his wife and child's faces up.

Mach said:

Yes

Cinnie said:

Yeah, but the new Joker background story is more contemporary, unfortunately.

Cinnie said:

Sadly, the "grim and gritty" movement has spread from the comics to the movies.

AlexdeParis said:

Thank goodness for that!! Warner Bros. wised up and realized the "Broadway Batman" won't fly with most comic-book fans.

uPtoWnNY said:

There should be a balance. They still haven't gotten it right. As far as comic books go, this life-long comics fan laments the sad state the comics industry has been in the last 10-15 years.

Cinnie said:

He made that role!!! Shame he's gone....it'll be hard replacing that performance!!

Cinnie said:

but he kept changing the story with every person he told it to
and i guess what we're meant to conclude is that we never got
to find out how it really happened.

i thought he did a great job with the role, only toward the end
of the film did i, one brief moment, think "oh damn yes, that's
heath ledger and he's dead now".

but that could have also had something to do with the fact that
whenever there's even a hint of christian bale i'm oblivious to
anything in my surroundings

IstenSzek said:

Pay attention, Cinnie!

Cinnie said:

He was talking about the drugs. BTW sounds like someone is going down for providing them to him...

Official: Mary Kate Olsen silent on Ledger OD

By TOM HAYS, Associated Press Writer 48 minutes ago

NEW YORK (AP) — Federal investigators want to question actress Mary Kate Olsen about how Heath Ledger got two powerful painkillers that contributed to his accidental overdose death, but she wants immunity or she won't talk, a law enforcement official said Monday.

Olsen's lawyer has twice refused requests to have her sit down with investigators probing the death of the scene-stealing star of "The Dark Knight" earlier this year in a Manhattan apartment, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation has not been concluded.

The official confirmed a report that Olsen — a close friend of Ledger who learned about the 28-year-old actor's death in a frantic phone call from a masseuse — wants a promise of immunity before she speaks to the Drug Enforcement Administration.

The activity demonstrates that federal authorities are still actively trying to figure out how Ledger got some of the drugs that killed him.

DEA investigators suspect the painkillers oxycodone and hydrocodone found in his system were obtained with phony prescriptions or other illegal sources, the official said. Oxycodone is sold as OxyContin and hydrocodone as Vicodin.

The other drugs that resulted in what the medical examiner called "acute intoxication," including anti-anxiety and sleeping pills, were prescribed legally by doctors in California and Texas, the official said.

Authorities have obtained a subpoena that could force Olsen to appear before a grand jury if negotiations with her lawyer fail, the official said. Other potential witnesses all have answered questions voluntarily, including doctors, Ledger's ex-girlfriend Michelle Williams and anyone who was in his apartment around the time of his death, the official added.

The DEA's New York office declined comment on the stalemate, first reported Monday by the New York Post. There was no immediate response to a message left with a spokeswoman for Olsen.

The masseuse discovered Ledger's body on Jan. 22 after the actor had completed filming his role as the Joker in the new Batman film.

Police say the masseuse spent nine minutes making three calls to Olsen before dialing 911 for help, then called the "Full House" actress a fourth time after paramedics arrived. At some point during the flurry of calls, Olsen, who was in California, summoned her personal security guards to the apartment to help, police said.

Shortly after the Australian-born actor's death, Olsen issued a statement that read: "Heath was a friend. His death is a tragic loss."

Mars23 said:

Now that just sounds bad. How unfortunate.

FuNkeNsteiN said:

thats what i thought

FuNkeNsteiN said:

Yeah I heard him switch it up but it always involved face cutting, which is just about the most violent idea you could place in a goddamn superhero movie.

Mars23 said:

I always wondered why she was first to the scene.

Cinnie said:

i'm probably not going to see Dark Knight so I had my mother tell me the plot and she was disappointed with the face cutting storyline, too.

She thought that it went too far and would give children ideas. I don't know about the giving kids ideas part but it did sound like a bit much.

Cinnie said:

i thought that she was his girlfriend/mistress or something of that nature.

JasmineFire said:

That's one of the things in the back of my mind was it was certainly not fit for children.

It was only rated PG up here, but it is disturbing! PG-13 at least I say.

I hope the first scene with all the guns going off will give enough of a heads-up if a parent wants to pull their children from viewing it.

FuNkeNsteiN said:

Yeah, lol, that was kinda a running gag with him.

Cinnie said:

Really? It was PG-13 here (I believe), but it really could've been rated R.

AlexdeParis said:

yeah, it was pg-13.
not a kids movie AT ALL.

That's why I think the first Batman is the greatest. It had enough balance that kids could enjoy it too (which all the merchandising is marketed towards anyway).

Plus, yeah, the Prince soundtrack.


For being touted as the greatest movie evar, The Dark Knight doesn't have a pop soundtrack to go with it.

Marilyn Manson should have done the Dark Knight soundtrack.

Cinnie said:

That was in regards to Nicholson really being an asshole about the whole Joker thing, even before Ledger's death. I remember him going off on all this bullshit about how there's no way this young kid could outdo his Joker. Twat. I loved Nicholson's Joker -he's the one I grew up with. But there's no need for him to be a prick about it.

I've also seen the clip where he said "I warned him...". He actually smiles a bit. Even if he'd had an experience with being too wrapped up in the role, and even if he really did warn Ledger to be careful, what a dick thing to say.

Cinnie said:

That's not the story though. That's just what he says at one point. You'll note the story changed later when he told it to another character. I've heard there was a bit cut where he tells his story a third time to someone else and it's changed again.

I loved the movie, especially Ledgers portrayl of the Joker
Stunning final performance

IstenSzek said:

That happened to me too. My moment was the last scene Batman and the Joker have together, and a bit of his makeup's been smeared off in the tussle. That bit of forehead showing made me remember I was watching a dead man.

meow85 said:

They actually cut something from this movie!