AnckSuNamun said:

Well, there ya go. Just turn on your bat signal whenever you hear an intruder.

crazyhorse said:

Yes, I know. The place where I'm going to take my initial class also offers advanced courses in shooting from a holster and if concealed like in a purse or ankle holster.

My primary use is for in-home protection. I also don't have kids. But there've been a rash of home invasions in Dallas and it turns out the ring that was doing this owned a nightclub and they would find victims among the people who valet parked. They were able to find their addresses or sometimes copy the house keys of their key chain and case their homes waiting for a good time to strike.

The question raised on this thread (or at least the underlying machismo) appears to be "guns are for safety and mean i will survive this society longer"

http://www.uphs.upenn.edu...emaire.pdf
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SCNDLS said:

well that changes everything. for in home protection a pistol is a poor choice. if someone is in your home u need to be able to put them down without having to worry about aimimg for accuracy. your adrenaline is going to be all jacked up and that makes it difficult. if there is more than one intruder that you are facing a pistol dosent leave much room for error. much less of a chance of jamming and the load will put down eveything in its path.

criminals do not obey the law.

Murder is illegal
Robbery is illegal
Rape is illegal

does making something illegal make it stop happening? NO. Therefore making owning a gun illegal will not stop people from having them. MOST criminals who have a gun do not have one legally. Generally it's the criminals we have to worry about not the law obiding citizens.

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That one looks like a razor.

I would like to go to a shooting range one day though and have a go

crazyhorse said:

So what are you suggesting?

SCNDLS said:

a shotgun is the perfect weapon for your needs.

Ocean said:

Here is when someone needs to photoshop a pic of Phil holding a target...

SCNDLS said:

a shotgun is the perfect weapon for your needs.

crazyhorse said:

Well, I don't know, it's a lot tougher to get to a shotgun and handle it (for most people) than it is to get to handgun and handle it, especially for most women. For SCNDLS, a 9mm would be sufficient and are pretty reliable.

MuthaFunka said:

Yeah i was thinking the same thing. I'm prolly still gonna get a Sig or Glock anyway but I'm going to try different guns first.

The police officer that teaches the class I'm taking sent me the following info.

My experience of the years would recommend you not to get a Sig 9mm. They are GREAT guns, but, heavy and large compared to a lot of other carry options. The main problem is people buy very good, but large handguns. The weight and size soon discourages them from carrying concealed. I recommend you look at:
KAHR ARMS PM9 OR PM40
SIG P232
BERSA THUNDER 380
S&W J FRAME LITE WIEGHTS
TAURUS M85 LITE WIEGHTS
Would be a good place to start when selecting a gun. Even as a police officer, off duty, I carry a 5 shot Taurus Ultra Lite. Comfort of carry is important.

SCNDLS said:

a shotgun is the perfect weapon for your needs.

crazyhorse said:

No it wouldn't, that thing bucks back into our breast-eses. Very unpleasant.

SCNDLS said:

Oh yeah! That's right, you plan on carrying it on your person. Yeah, that's something to think about then. A 5 rounder is cool, but I need at least 10 just in case you get bogged down somewhere and you have to let off a few, ya know? But he's right, carry-comfort is very important, especially for women.

Ottensen said:

Unacceptable.

SCNDLS said:

In an emergency is one thing. But just doing target practice with the darn thing will turn a titty purple...AND it has the nerve to hurt for a day or 2 afterwards

MuthaFunka said:

Okay, MF, I'ma need you to stop right thurr, "let off a few" Damn, boy!

Although, I'm getting my license to carry I don't plan to, I have enough crap in my purse without adding a lethal weapon to the mix. Despite his suggestion I'm getting a .9 I just have to find the right one. But I'm glad to get advice and training from an active duty cop of 20+ years experience.

SCNDLS said:

Hey, I do personal security work and you never know when a situation may come up to where you have to take cover and exchange with a few cats out there. I'm just sayin'!

And why get a license to carry but then not carry? Girl, you better carry that smokewagon!

MuthaFunka said:

Alright Wyatt Earp. I'm your huckleberry. . .

I'm getting the license to carry so that I can have it in my car when I travel just in case some shit happens I want the law on my side as much as possible.

SCNDLS said:

LMAO! Hell yeah! You get MAJOR brownie points for knowing "Tombstone" references! I love that flick!

And ok, cool. I can dig that.

MuthaFunka said:

Shiiiiittt, Tombstone is MY shit. Some great dialogue in that movie.
I have it on DVD and that was an awesome cast with some sexy muthafuckas. Love me some Michael Biehn.

MuthaFunka said:

Shiiiiittt, Tombstone is MY shit. Some great dialogue in that movie.
I have it on DVD and that was an awesome cast with some sexy muthafuckas. Love me some Michael Biehn.

SCNDLS said:

Some of the best one-liners ever:

"Why Ringo? You look like someone just walked over you're grave"

"You're no daisy!"

Doc had all the best lines!

And yeah, Beihn become one of my favorite actors after I saw him in Aliens. he was crazy as hell in The Abyss and I liked him in Navy SEALS.

Funniest shit is seeing a thick ass Billy Bob Thornton!

"Go 'head! Skin that smokewagon!"

Oh, and when Ike Clanton learns that Doc's a "Lunger," he says "Well I hope you die" as they carry Doc out of the casino - Fucked up and hilarious at the same time!

MuthaFunka said:

This is actually my favorite Val Kilmer performance. And yes seeing a chubby ass Billy Bob was HILARIOUS! But my favorite part was when he got slapped in the mouf and stood there waiting to be dismissed and Val said, "Oh, Frank, I forgot you were therrre-a." Then he thanked them for taking his gun and letting him leave.

Oh and when Val told ol' girl "You're a good woman, or you might be the Antichrist." as she was goin' down on him. Yeah, classic.