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Reply #90 posted 08/05/08 8:52pm

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SCNDLS said:

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Or you will pop a cap in my ass no doubt..... lol

neutral As I've said, repeatedly in this thread, MY purpose is to defend myself if someone breaks into my home. So, if you decide to break into my house while I'm sleeping, then yeah, caps are coming your way. peace!


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Reply #91 posted 08/05/08 8:53pm

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SCNDLS said:

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Tell me why i am moving to the USA again with all these wanna be gangsta muthafuckers that can't actually fight so wanna be packin' heat?

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You asked a question only you can answer: Why ARE you moving to the states if you have such a distate for Americans and our guns? rolleyes It is possible to have an opposing viewpoint without making sweeping generalizations OR insulting Americans. If the UK is so perfect, why leave? And putting lol in your post does not hide your true intent. arrow
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Reply #92 posted 08/05/08 8:53pm

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How do you shoot someone when you are sleeping?

Skill.


although i've never owned a gun i certainly grew up aroud them, and am a pretty good clay disk shooter. i remember my dad had ears that seemed like he had superman powers when i was little...anything so much as a thump against our front door late at night he was READY. we were all trained to listen out and alert my parents as well, and it NEVER took my mom or dad more than 30 seconds after a sound or warning to rouse instantly and be poised on possible entrance targets. daddy had baretta rifle, mom had 2 smith&wessons. we kids had a safety drill, safe spaces and emergency info for calling authorities. unfortunately violent break ins can be a fact of life for all, even in the peaceful suburbs where i grew up. i was a kid during that summer of sam/ atlanta serial child killer shit, and there was a lot of copycat behavior going on all over the place back then. it was horrifying to be selling lemonade and hoola-hooping outside with friends by day, but then having to bar your doors at night....i'm telling you, the sound of an intruder trying to kick your door in... eyepop...
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Reply #93 posted 08/05/08 8:56pm

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paintedlady said:

SCNDLS said:


You asked a question only you can answer: Why ARE you moving to the states if you have such a distate for Americans and our guns? rolleyes It is possible to have an opposing viewpoint without making sweeping generalizations OR insulting Americans. If the UK is so perfect, why leave? And putting lol in your post does not hide your true intent. arrow
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He just wants to start shit.


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Reply #94 posted 08/05/08 8:57pm

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mdiver said:

SCNDLS said:


You asked a question only you can answer: Why ARE you moving to the states if you have such a distate for Americans and our guns? rolleyes It is possible to have an opposing viewpoint without making sweeping generalizations OR insulting Americans. If the UK is so perfect, why leave? And putting lol in your post does not hide your true intent. arrow
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Ah so now you can read intent? thumbs up!
Where did i say the UK was perfect?
Where did i say the USA was all shit?
Somebody with a temper like that is the precise reason that gun ownership becomes a worry

confuse Oh I'm sorry my bad, I didn't realize that calling Americans "wanna be gangsta muthafuckers that can't actually fight so wanna be packin' heat" was a compliment. neutral
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Reply #95 posted 08/05/08 8:58pm

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Ottensen said:

SCNDLS said:


Skill.


although i've never owned a gun i certainly grew up aroud them, and am a pretty good clay disk shooter. i remember my dad had ears that seemed like he had superman powers when i was little...anything so much as a thump against our front door late at night he was READY. we were all trained to listen out and alert my parents as well, and it NEVER took my mom or dad more than 30 seconds after a sound or warning to rouse instantly and be poised on possible entrance targets. daddy had baretta rifle, mom had 2 smith&wessons. we kids had a safety drill, safe spaces and emergency info for calling authorities. unfortunately violent break ins can be a fact of life for all, even in the peaceful suburbs where i grew up. i was a kid during that summer of sam/ atlanta serial child killer shit, and there was a lot of copycat behavior going on all over the place back then. it was horrifying to be selling lemonade and hoola-hooping outside with friends by day, but then having to bar your doors at night....i'm telling you, the sound of an intruder trying to kick your door in... eyepop...


Exactly. I laugh at some of these "holier than thou" people who narrowmindedly think "guns are just for causing crimes and nothing else". Wake up.
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Reply #96 posted 08/05/08 8:59pm

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mdiver said:



Ah so now you can read intent? thumbs up!
Where did i say the UK was perfect?
Where did i say the USA was all shit?
Somebody with a temper like that is the precise reason that gun ownership becomes a worry

confuse Oh I'm sorry my bad, I didn't realize that calling Americans "wanna be gangsta muthafuckers that can't actually fight so wanna be packin' heat" was a compliment. neutral


Read it again, i didn't say all American's
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Reply #97 posted 08/05/08 9:05pm

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mdiver said:

SCNDLS said:


You asked a question only you can answer: Why ARE you moving to the states if you have such a distate for Americans and our guns? rolleyes It is possible to have an opposing viewpoint without making sweeping generalizations OR insulting Americans. If the UK is so perfect, why leave? And putting lol in your post does not hide your true intent. arrow
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Ah so now you can read intent? thumbs up!
Where did i say the UK was perfect?
Where did i say the USA was all shit?
Somebody with a temper like that is the precise reason that gun ownership becomes a worry

falloff falloff falloff she aint gonna go postal lol
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Reply #98 posted 08/05/08 9:08pm

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mdiver said:

SCNDLS said:


confuse Oh I'm sorry my bad, I didn't realize that calling Americans "wanna be gangsta muthafuckers that can't actually fight so wanna be packin' heat" was a compliment. neutral


Read it again, i didn't say all American's

Nah, YOU read it again. You didn't say "some people: or a "few folks" or "criminals", you said:

"Tell me why i am moving to the USA again with all these wanna be gangsta muthafuckers that can't actually fight so wanna be packin' heat?"

Which lumps me and all the other people that posted on this thread yet don't fit that description in the same group of "gangsta muthafuckers" according to you. Again, that shit wasn't a compliment therefore the intent was plain to see. So why continue posting here if you don't have anything to contribute regarding my original inquiry??? hmmm

Look, I don't want my thread locked because everyone ELSE has actually posted useful information and entertaining comments, if you can't do the same I implore you, keep.it.movin'.
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Reply #99 posted 08/05/08 9:10pm

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Excellent point, SCNDLS clapping
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Reply #100 posted 08/05/08 9:11pm

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One of the main reasons I don't want to own a gun is because I don't want to have to contemplate using it. Given some of the situations my family has faced in the last few years, I can say I would have seriously contemplated pulling the trigger. I want to avoid the confrontation in the first place but the cops never do anything to help us and it would have fallen into protecting my family but still. I'm hugely afraid to own a gun.
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Reply #101 posted 08/05/08 9:12pm

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You know some orgers are walking a fine line here, even though they have been given 2nd chances (and you know who you are) ..... Either be civil and keep this thread on track or I'll lock it up and give out a few banned and I am not joking peeps.
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Reply #102 posted 08/05/08 9:14pm

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MuthaFunka said:

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falloff Damn, Mutha! I don't need a streetsweeper. lol
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Well, you asked! lol I'm just trying to keep you "in the know". And don't let the scared and uninformed people here talk you out of getting one. It's all about protection, simple as that. They'd be the same people to talk you outta using condoms wink .

lol I don't need anyone's approval or sanction to do what *I* think is going to keep me safe. And I don't mind having a discussion about differing stances on the issues. However, that was/is NOT the purpose of this thread. I'm soliciting info and if folks don't have anything constructive to add to the convo they need to get up offa my block. cool
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Reply #103 posted 08/05/08 9:14pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

One of the main reasons I don't want to own a gun is because I don't want to have to contemplate using it. Given some of the situations my family has faced in the last few years, I can say I would have seriously contemplated pulling the trigger. I want to avoid the confrontation in the first place but the cops never do anything to help us and it would have fallen into protecting my family but still. I'm hugely afraid to own a gun.


Take some gun classes. Become more familiar with them and trust me, you'll feel a lot better and safer in getting one. But yeah, for those that tend to be a hothead, it's not a good idea to get one. Taking a life is a tough burden to handle and some have no idea how much of a burden that is. It's a HUGE decision to make in owning a gun.
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Reply #104 posted 08/05/08 9:14pm

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SCNDLS said:

mdiver said:



Read it again, i didn't say all American's

Nah, YOU read it again. You didn't say "some people: or a "few folks" or "criminals", you said:

"Tell me why i am moving to the USA again with all these wanna be gangsta muthafuckers that can't actually fight so wanna be packin' heat?"

Which lumps me and all the other people that posted on this thread yet don't fit that description in the same group of "gangsta muthafuckers" according to you. Again, that shit wasn't a compliment therefore the intent was plain to see. So why continue posting here if you don't have anything to contribute regarding my original inquiry??? hmmm

Look, I don't want my thread locked because everyone ELSE has actually posted useful information and entertaining comments, if you can't do the same I implore you, keep.it.movin'.


It really does not matter what i post, how i post it or indeed what you post in reply, there is obviously more here than the "who likes guns and who doesn't" debate.
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Reply #105 posted 08/05/08 9:15pm

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SCNDLS said:

MuthaFunka said:



Well, you asked! lol I'm just trying to keep you "in the know". And don't let the scared and uninformed people here talk you out of getting one. It's all about protection, simple as that. They'd be the same people to talk you outta using condoms wink .

lol I don't need anyone's approval or sanction to do what *I* think is going to keep me safe. And I don't mind having a discussion about differing stances on the issues. However, that was/is NOT the purpose of this thread. I'm soliciting info and if folks don't have anything constructive to add to the convo they need to get up offa my block. cool


I completely dig, sista soldier! razz
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Reply #106 posted 08/05/08 9:18pm

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MuthaFunka said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

One of the main reasons I don't want to own a gun is because I don't want to have to contemplate using it. Given some of the situations my family has faced in the last few years, I can say I would have seriously contemplated pulling the trigger. I want to avoid the confrontation in the first place but the cops never do anything to help us and it would have fallen into protecting my family but still. I'm hugely afraid to own a gun.


Take some gun classes. Become more familiar with them and trust me, you'll feel a lot better and safer in getting one. But yeah, for those that tend to be a hothead, it's not a good idea to get one. Taking a life is a tough burden to handle and some have no idea how much of a burden that is. It's a HUGE decision to make in owning a gun.


This isn't about me being a hothead lol It's about in the fear of the moment. So far we haven't needed a gun but that isn't to say there won't be a time where it would actually be needed. If I confronted this person with a gun, it would spark a confrontation for sure. Even if that was delayed, it would make matters worse. I wish this person would just fall off the face of the earth already.... sigh
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Reply #107 posted 08/05/08 9:18pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

One of the main reasons I don't want to own a gun is because I don't want to have to contemplate using it. Given some of the situations my family has faced in the last few years, I can say I would have seriously contemplated pulling the trigger. I want to avoid the confrontation in the first place but the cops never do anything to help us and it would have fallen into protecting my family but still. I'm hugely afraid to own a gun.

That's TOTALLY understandable and that works for you. I didn't grow up in a volatile or violent environment, but, I'm not afraid to own or USE a gun if I need to. As a single woman, if it's a choice between not having a gun and being at the mercy of an intruder OR having one and having to use it, best believe that muthafucka's in trouble cuz it ain't gon' be me goin' down. Ya heard??? lol
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Reply #108 posted 08/05/08 9:20pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

MuthaFunka said:



Take some gun classes. Become more familiar with them and trust me, you'll feel a lot better and safer in getting one. But yeah, for those that tend to be a hothead, it's not a good idea to get one. Taking a life is a tough burden to handle and some have no idea how much of a burden that is. It's a HUGE decision to make in owning a gun.


This isn't about me being a hothead lol It's about in the fear of the moment. So far we haven't needed a gun but that isn't to say there won't be a time where it would actually be needed. If I confronted this person with a gun, it would spark a confrontation for sure. Even if that was delayed, it would make matters worse. I wish this person would just fall off the face of the earth already.... sigh

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Reply #109 posted 08/05/08 9:20pm

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SCNDLS said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

One of the main reasons I don't want to own a gun is because I don't want to have to contemplate using it. Given some of the situations my family has faced in the last few years, I can say I would have seriously contemplated pulling the trigger. I want to avoid the confrontation in the first place but the cops never do anything to help us and it would have fallen into protecting my family but still. I'm hugely afraid to own a gun.

That's TOTALLY understandable and that works for you. I didn't grow up in a volatile or violent environment, but, I'm not afraid to own or USE a gun if I need to. As a single woman, if it's a choice between not having a gun and being at the mercy of an intruder OR having one and having to use it, best believe that muthafucka's in trouble cuz it ain't gon' be me goin' down. Ya heard??? lol

lol Well I'm not saying that necessarily works for me. In a physical battle, I could not win. My best bet would be to have some type of weapon at hand or to create a weapon out of some object to protect myself. It would be justified if I did have to pull the trigger, because it would be forced on me but I just don't want to have to do it.
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Reply #110 posted 08/05/08 9:20pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

MuthaFunka said:



Take some gun classes. Become more familiar with them and trust me, you'll feel a lot better and safer in getting one. But yeah, for those that tend to be a hothead, it's not a good idea to get one. Taking a life is a tough burden to handle and some have no idea how much of a burden that is. It's a HUGE decision to make in owning a gun.


This isn't about me being a hothead lol It's about in the fear of the moment. So far we haven't needed a gun but that isn't to say there won't be a time where it would actually be needed. If I confronted this person with a gun, it would spark a confrontation for sure. Even if that was delayed, it would make matters worse. I wish this person would just fall off the face of the earth already.... sigh


Oh ok. Well yeah, ONLY use it to protect you/loved ones from bodily harm. That's why I say to never "front like you're gonna pull it" - Just pull it when you NEED to pull it, and that should ONLY be to protect you/loved ones.
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Reply #111 posted 08/05/08 9:23pm

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Tell me why i am moving to the USA again with all these wanna be gangsta muthafuckers that can't actually fight so wanna be packin' heat?

rolleyes

move up north...fewer people own guns there, although there are some who do.
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Reply #112 posted 08/05/08 9:26pm

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I find it positively terrifying that so many people would even consider owning a gun, let alone carrying one.
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Reply #113 posted 08/05/08 9:27pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

SCNDLS said:


That's TOTALLY understandable and that works for you. I didn't grow up in a volatile or violent environment, but, I'm not afraid to own or USE a gun if I need to. As a single woman, if it's a choice between not having a gun and being at the mercy of an intruder OR having one and having to use it, best believe that muthafucka's in trouble cuz it ain't gon' be me goin' down. Ya heard??? lol

lol Well I'm not saying that necessarily works for me. In a physical battle, I could not win. My best bet would be to have some type of weapon at hand or to create a weapon out of some object to protect myself. It would be justified if I did have to pull the trigger, because it would be forced on me but I just don't want to have to do it.

No one WANTS to have to do it, and I don't think anyone has expressed any type of glee about their gun ownership. However, situations happen every day where people, especially women, are victimized in their own homes. And I'd rather be alive and regretful that I had to take someone's life that meant me harm than to be murdered in my own home or car.
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Reply #114 posted 08/05/08 9:27pm

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mdiver said:

Tell me why i am moving to the USA again with all these wanna be gangsta muthafuckers that can't actually fight so wanna be packin' heat?

rolleyes

move up north...fewer people own guns there, although there are some who do.


Yeah, we are looking there,plus the partnership i am looking at have branches there
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Reply #115 posted 08/05/08 9:28pm

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SCNDLS said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


lol Well I'm not saying that necessarily works for me. In a physical battle, I could not win. My best bet would be to have some type of weapon at hand or to create a weapon out of some object to protect myself. It would be justified if I did have to pull the trigger, because it would be forced on me but I just don't want to have to do it.

No one WANTS to have to do it, and I don't think anyone has expressed any type of glee about their gun ownership. However, situations happen every day where people, especially women, are victimized in their own homes. And I'd rather be alive and regretful that I had to take someone's life that meant me harm than to be murdered in my own home or car.


Igg-fucking-zactly.
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Reply #116 posted 08/05/08 9:28pm

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I find it positively terrifying that so many people would even consider owning a gun, let alone carrying one.

I find it even more terrifying that a woman I know was attacked in her own home two weeks ago by a home invasion gang.
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SCNDLS said:

CarrieMpls said:

I find it positively terrifying that so many people would even consider owning a gun, let alone carrying one.

I find it even more terrifying that a woman I know was attacked in her own home two weeks ago by a home invasion gang.


Owning a gun wouldn't change that.
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Reply #118 posted 08/05/08 9:31pm

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SCNDLS said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


lol Well I'm not saying that necessarily works for me. In a physical battle, I could not win. My best bet would be to have some type of weapon at hand or to create a weapon out of some object to protect myself. It would be justified if I did have to pull the trigger, because it would be forced on me but I just don't want to have to do it.

No one WANTS to have to do it, and I don't think anyone has expressed any type of glee about their gun ownership. However, situations happen every day where people, especially women, are victimized in their own homes. And I'd rather be alive and regretful that I had to take someone's life that meant me harm than to be murdered in my own home or car.

Intellectually I'm totally with you. If I was forced to do it, I'd have the 19 year history of how this person has tortured and tormented my family to answer the guilt. It would only be in an absolute situation but I am afraid. I admit it.
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Reply #119 posted 08/05/08 9:33pm

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CarrieMpls said:

SCNDLS said:


I find it even more terrifying that a woman I know was attacked in her own home two weeks ago by a home invasion gang.


Owning a gun wouldn't change that.

that's how i feel about it, too.

most likley, the person breaking in has a gun as well.

and then there's the fact that the gun owner is more likely to become injured as a result of that gun than anyone else.
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