San Francisco! It fits all your criteria (especially high state tax)

roodboi said:

Yeah, but I'd still be in the US of A, and I'm becoming more and more of a crazy conspiracy theorist about this place. I find it really likely that we'll be living under something close to martial law before my life is over.

When I was a kid I used to have fears and weird dreams about cameras watching people, and computers tracking your every action/purchase/personal info, and that's becoming more and more the reality. The Patriot Act has insinuated itself into every area of American life, and it terrifies me.



Don't report me to the FBI or anything. I don't want to assassinate anyone, I just want to get outta here!

TheMistress said:

It's statements like this that get people suicided

TheMistress said:

Compared to the original vision for this country we've been under martial law for sometime now

ThirdandFinal said:

It could also be argued that this nation was created by martial force in the first place.

TheMistress said:

travel around the world a bit though, and you find our freedoms are pretty remarkable compared to many other places

heartbeatocean said:

I realized I meant to specify "outside of the US" in my original post and didn't.

ThirdandFinal said:

It could also be argued that this nation was created by martial force in the first place.

heartbeatocean said:

I don't disagree with that statement at all.

TheMistress said:

Yes, all it ever really was was a vision, a nice philosphy created by rich land holders and slave owners

TheMistress said:

I used to be highly critical of the U.S. (still can be) but after spending some time in the Middle East and marrying an Egyptian for a while, my perspective really, really changed. There's a reason people from all over the world are on waiting lists to come here and people risk their lives and families to get here and live illegally.

heartbeatocean said:

I really believe that sooner or later people will be risking their lives to leave here. Like I said, it's just my ideas about what has begun to happen and will continue to happen here.

heartbeatocean said:

I really believe that sooner or later people will be risking their lives to leave here. Like I said, it's just my ideas about what has begun to happen and will continue to happen here.

TheMistress said:

maybe so, but don't you think this country is on the precipice of change?

I'm an ultra-liberal, but I simply can't hang with this cynicism. It's a gift to live here. I spent 5 years helping someone get a green card and witnessed the suffering and the craving for opportunities that we take for granted. It's a privilege, IMHO.

heartbeatocean said:

I have done the same, for dozens of people in my former job.

And it sickened me to see just how much suffering they went through just jumping through the hoops this governmet has set up. Someone being denied the chance to come and live here with their family because their photos didn't exactly fit the specified size down to the pixel? Gimme a fucking break.

Lammastide said:



Cold!

shake

I lived through 29 New England winters, and I'll be damned if I go north of there! lol

Thailand

Sure, it's too hot, but up north it's quite mild during parts of the year. Loads of beaches, weed not a problem, qood international schools, the occasional coup, cheap food, cheap alcohol, and if you can conceive of something you can nearly always do it. Did I mention it's cheap?

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heartbeatocean said:

I realized I meant to specify "outside of the US" in my original post and didn't.



San Fran would rock, though. I grew up in what would essentially be the East Coast's answer to San Fran/Berkeley (Cambridge, MA).

TheMistress said:

San Fran DOES rock, if you moved here we'd practically be neighbors and if you're as Mistress as you seem to be you'd fuckin' LOVE Folsom Street Day!!! (http://folsomstreetfair.org/index.php)

RenHoek said:

Hot.

TheMistress said:

It's a gas! The sheer specatacle of the entire BDSM community parading their stuff out in the open, during broad daylight is truly one of the modern wonders of the world. You haven't lived until you've witnessed a friendly flogging in front of a furniture store while a bunch of squares stand around slack jawed. It's frikkin hilarious!!!

Thailand

Sure, it's too hot, but up north it's quite mild during parts of the year. Loads of beaches, weed not a problem, qood international schools, the occasional coup, cheap food, cheap alcohol, and if you can conceive of something you can nearly always do it. Did I mention it's cheap?

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