emm said:

OK, let me see if I can explain it this way. Physically being penetrated is your role. You don't have the option to penetrate. Your body isn't made that way.

In gayland, most of the really butch and beefy guys are looked at as tops and I have had experiences where a really beefy, hairy, butch guy resented being looked at that way. That they felt like a bottom but were pigeonholed into a role based on their physicality. The opposite is true. I'm sure there are fem twinks who are raging tops

Take me for example, I'm attracted to that kind of beefy, hairy, butch guy but am not beefy, hairy or butch myself and therefore cannot compete in that arena. Sometimes it does bother me. It's fleeting but sometimes I feel resentment.

Now do you understand more what I'm saying?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I don't think the two really compare.

JasmineFire said:

You wouldn't

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

and neither do many of the other women on this thread.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

and neither do many of the other women on this thread.

JasmineFire said:

Just askin

JasmineFire said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

and it's an interesting question but the two don't really compare.

JasmineFire said:

Psychologically anything goes.....

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

true and i'm sure that there are women who feel similarly to what you described in your earlier posts however it seems as though the majority don't.

and really it makes sense.

As emm mentioned in her post, a woman's body is set up to receive pleasure through penetration. There is no other option so, in most cases, no other option is really desired.

But everyone is different and strap on dildos with clitoral stimulation mechanisms wouldn't exist if there wasn't a market for them.

JasmineFire said:

Well I wasn't revealing a great truth here I was just wondering if straight women ever felt any kind of envy. that's all.

sammij said:

what? a penis virgin?

JasmineFire said:

i've never been penetrated by a penis.






woah, dirty.

I wonder if the issue of penetration is bigger for gay women? Maybe you need to ask all women, not just the straight ones.

Not that straight women take it lightly, but there doesn't seem to be much resentment. It's natural, for one thing, and if you love the man I would guess women like it just as much the men like to penetrate.

sammij said:

but doesn't that make you a virgin?

NDRU said:

and even if a woman isn't in love with a guy...she may very well love being penetrated by him.

JasmineFire said:

well consider it this way
i have been penetrated, just not by cock.
fingers? yes
toys? oh yes
tongues? hell yes

but

i've been told (argued with even) that virginity means never being penetrated by a dick...

personally i don't care what it means to anyone else, but that explanation pretty much makes sense to me

JasmineFire said:

True (well, I assume!)

NDRU said:

i guess the reverse would be true for men.

sammij said:

so then being a penis virgin is the same as being a regular virgin, right?

JasmineFire said:

I think the reason I mentioned love is that penetration could be a terrible thing, too. But it's not really about love, it's about when someone wants something vs. when they don't want it.

JasmineFire said:

i just said it that way in case other people have a different outlook on what it is to be a virgin

sammij said:

cool. that makes sense to me.

Hi, Richard!

You know, the only time I feel weird about "being impaled" is when I'm having sex with my boyfriend and I'm frustrated w/him about something (separate from the sex). That's when I'm most aware of the fact that I'm the one "taking it", "enveloping" him, I guess you could say, and feeling like I'm in vulnerable position physically with this design. You know, actually, there's a whole feminist train of thought along these lines (penetrator vs penetratee) and a classic book called The Chalice and the Blade by Riane Eisler you might want to check out....she kind of relates this issue (chalice=woman, blade=man) to the change from matriarchal to patriarchal/authoritarian societies

Food for thought.

CarrieAnn said:

OH.

MY.

FUCKING.

GOD!








OK, this is more along the lines of kind of what I was thinking. Sticking your dick in a hole doesn't require the dick to do anything but feel good. I can absolutely understand the nuances of "positions" when I'm bottoming. I have to be hit the right way and just because I have a dick in my ass doesn't mean I'm getting off So I guess this comes down to awareness or lack thereof of the penetrator. Being unaware, or not caring certainly lends to a sense of vulnerability and that you are giving more than what is being given in return.

Do you ever resent always being in the position of penetration? I'm not talking about switching it up and finger/dildo banging your boyfriend. I'm just talking regular sex. Do you ever resent never being able to be in the perceived dominant position of impaling? always being impaled?