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Reply #30 posted 07/24/08 4:42pm

JasmineFire

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But wth, don't americans know you're supposed to de-worm your pets at least twice a year, out- or indoor???? disbelief It's not a waiting-till-it-happens game people, it's a make-sure-it-never-happens game.
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i think that one of the main problems is that the dewormer that is used most often in america (pyrantel) doesn't really get cat tapeworms, mostly roundworms and hookworms. Droncit is used to treat tapeworm infections and that's not given at most routine dewormings.

Usually, if you have adquate flea control, your cat won't get tapeworms, which is why all cats in a household should be treated with a flea control product even if they are exclusively indoor cats. However, if you have an 18 year old cat in a single cat household who never leaves her special room, well then maybe you can ease up a bit on things.
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Reply #31 posted 07/24/08 4:55pm

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As long as you take the cat to the vet right away, the cat should be fine. One of my boys had them a few months ago. The vet gave him a shot and they went away fairly quickly. He also said it's because the cat ate a flea. My cats are indoors as well, but with this increase in heat in my area, and friends visiting who have animals as well, it was possible that some may have entered my home. Good luck and I hope the kitty feels better.smile
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Reply #32 posted 07/25/08 3:31pm

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JasmineFire said:


i think that one of the main problems is that the dewormer that is used most often in america (pyrantel) doesn't really get cat tapeworms, mostly roundworms and hookworms. Droncit is used to treat tapeworm infections and that's not given at most routine dewormings.

Usually, if you have adquate flea control, your cat won't get tapeworms, which is why all cats in a household should be treated with a flea control product even if they are exclusively indoor cats. However, if you have an 18 year old cat in a single cat household who never leaves her special room, well then maybe you can ease up a bit on things.


We have two diff dewormers here too, one that take the round and hook and then the other one that makes a clean sweep. It's advised to do one the first time of year and then the other one for the second, to make sure you get them all. Tapeworms seem to be less common here than in the US, but then so are fleas - here you don't have to treat your dog or cat for fleas routinely, personally I believe that to be because we don't keep our dogs in the back yard here so the fleas rarely get enough time to breed and fester in one place. The occasional outbreak surfaces in neighbourhoods but not as a general rule.
I just buy the dewormer twice a year and give it to all my pets at the same time. That's all, easy.
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Reply #33 posted 07/25/08 4:38pm

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Teacher said:

JasmineFire said:


i think that one of the main problems is that the dewormer that is used most often in america (pyrantel) doesn't really get cat tapeworms, mostly roundworms and hookworms. Droncit is used to treat tapeworm infections and that's not given at most routine dewormings.

Usually, if you have adquate flea control, your cat won't get tapeworms, which is why all cats in a household should be treated with a flea control product even if they are exclusively indoor cats. However, if you have an 18 year old cat in a single cat household who never leaves her special room, well then maybe you can ease up a bit on things.


We have two diff dewormers here too, one that take the round and hook and then the other one that makes a clean sweep. It's advised to do one the first time of year and then the other one for the second, to make sure you get them all. Tapeworms seem to be less common here than in the US, but then so are fleas - here you don't have to treat your dog or cat for fleas routinely, personally I believe that to be because we don't keep our dogs in the back yard here so the fleas rarely get enough time to breed and fester in one place. The occasional outbreak surfaces in neighbourhoods but not as a general rule.
I just buy the dewormer twice a year and give it to all my pets at the same time. That's all, easy.


I have never given anything to my two indoor kitties (in the last 20 years) and neither ever had worms or fleas. I assume they are given something in shots when they are kitties, but I've never had a problem and no vet has ever told me to do it either. Perhaps it's regional?
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Reply #34 posted 07/25/08 4:45pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

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first neutral

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Reply #35 posted 07/25/08 4:49pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

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WASH YOUR HANDS!!!!!



the worms break off when they exit the animal, take a sample of the poop with you to the vet. sounds like roundworms.


did I say

WASH YOUR HANDS

and every place that cat has laid, humans can get them too.



On that note Dan, I'll need to see your health card prior to our next visit!
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Reply #36 posted 07/25/08 4:50pm

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XxAxX said:

butterfli25 said:

WASH YOUR HANDS!!!!!



the worms break off when they exit the animal, take a sample of the poop with you to the vet. sounds like roundworms.


did I say

WASH YOUR HANDS

and every place that cat has laid, humans can get them too.


oh man. well, look on the bright side. maybe the dustmites will eat them first



lol

I have no advice Dan neutral


See a vet? confused
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Reply #37 posted 07/25/08 4:53pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

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Imago said:


No fleas.

Also strictly an indoor cat.


This cat doesn't even like to go near the front door of the house.



Although I keep the litter box in the garage and he has to walk through is little cat door to get to it--that's as outside as this cat gets.



Hate to break it to you but even strictly indoor cats can have fleas.
YOU could have carried them in giggle



ok.. I am serious!

lol


Ok, and nowwwww you'll need to have a flea dip prior to arrival!
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Reply #38 posted 07/25/08 8:13pm

JasmineFire

CarrieMpls said:

Teacher said:



We have two diff dewormers here too, one that take the round and hook and then the other one that makes a clean sweep. It's advised to do one the first time of year and then the other one for the second, to make sure you get them all. Tapeworms seem to be less common here than in the US, but then so are fleas - here you don't have to treat your dog or cat for fleas routinely, personally I believe that to be because we don't keep our dogs in the back yard here so the fleas rarely get enough time to breed and fester in one place. The occasional outbreak surfaces in neighbourhoods but not as a general rule.
I just buy the dewormer twice a year and give it to all my pets at the same time. That's all, easy.


I have never given anything to my two indoor kitties (in the last 20 years) and neither ever had worms or fleas. I assume they are given something in shots when they are kitties, but I've never had a problem and no vet has ever told me to do it either. Perhaps it's regional?

yeah, it's regional although your cats were probably dewormed at some point in their life. out where my mother lives they don't really need to treat for fleas because it's so dry but where I grew up treating for fleas every summer was practically the law and where I live now it's recommended to treat for fleas all year round for indoor and outdoor animals.

Teacher said
personally I believe that to be because we don't keep our dogs in the back yard here so the fleas rarely get enough time to breed and fester in one place.

i don't think the presence of absence of fleas has much to do with Americans keeping animals in backyards or not. Most of the people who posted on this thread stated that they've had run ins with fleas on their INDOOR animals. Tapeworm infestation is a very quiet condition in healthy animals. There are many animals who harbor tapeworms but don't shed any proglottids, have any kind of diarrhea, or even have fleas at the present moment. Tapeworm eggs are hard to visualize on a fecal flotation so it's always best just to deworm to cover the possibility.

Also, fleas thrive in internal environments. Your largest populations of fleas are going to be in houses, apartments, etc. It's true that outdoor animals are more likely to have fleas but just because an animal is outside, does not mean that animal is harboring fleas. The entire lifecycle of the flea does not take place exclusively on the animal and while fleas can complete their life cycle in the great outdoors, they do it much better and more efficiently inside.
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Reply #39 posted 07/25/08 9:03pm

obsessed

That's certainly an unsavory subject... feeling ill

If it's tapeworm however, it doesn't do any harm to the cat usually...
here's a bit of info that might give you some insight.

http://www.dr-dan.com/tapeworm.htm

http://www.marvistavet.co...eworm.html

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Reply #40 posted 07/26/08 12:37am

ZombieKitten

thanks for reminding me to worm my dog today! eek
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Reply #41 posted 07/26/08 12:08pm

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I do not own a cat because cats seem to have a severe problem with worms!!!
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Reply #42 posted 07/26/08 12:26pm

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butterfli25 said:

WASH YOUR HANDS!!!!!



the worms break off when they exit the animal, take a sample of the poop with you to the vet. sounds like roundworms.


did I say

WASH YOUR HANDS

and every place that cat has laid, humans can get them too.


ffs, do you know where Dan finds cat hair ??
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Reply #43 posted 07/26/08 12:57pm

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CarrieMpls said:

Teacher said:



We have two diff dewormers here too, one that take the round and hook and then the other one that makes a clean sweep. It's advised to do one the first time of year and then the other one for the second, to make sure you get them all. Tapeworms seem to be less common here than in the US, but then so are fleas - here you don't have to treat your dog or cat for fleas routinely, personally I believe that to be because we don't keep our dogs in the back yard here so the fleas rarely get enough time to breed and fester in one place. The occasional outbreak surfaces in neighbourhoods but not as a general rule.
I just buy the dewormer twice a year and give it to all my pets at the same time. That's all, easy.


I have never given anything to my two indoor kitties (in the last 20 years) and neither ever had worms or fleas. I assume they are given something in shots when they are kitties, but I've never had a problem and no vet has ever told me to do it either. Perhaps it's regional?


Same here...although, when my cats were babies they were treated for worms. The mom passed them along to them.
I do wonder if it's regional - maybe our wicked northern winters kill the fleas outside or something. shrug
Plus, like you, no vet has told me to pre-treat my kitties. I feel uncomfortable giving them chemicals unless they absolutely need them.
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Reply #44 posted 07/26/08 1:20pm

veronikka

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butterfli25 said:

WASH YOUR HANDS!!!!!



the worms break off when they exit the animal, take a sample of the poop with you to the vet. sounds like roundworms.


did I say

WASH YOUR HANDS

and every place that cat has laid, humans can get them too.


ffs, do you know where Dan finds cat hair ??




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Reply #45 posted 07/26/08 5:32pm

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amorbella said:

I do not own a cat because cats seem to have a severe problem with worms!!!
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Some cats do, but not all. My cats are indoor only, and they haven't had a problem with worm infestation. Hopefully this will continue.
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Reply #46 posted 07/27/08 6:36am

JasmineFire

applekisses said:

CarrieMpls said:



I have never given anything to my two indoor kitties (in the last 20 years) and neither ever had worms or fleas. I assume they are given something in shots when they are kitties, but I've never had a problem and no vet has ever told me to do it either. Perhaps it's regional?


Same here...although, when my cats were babies they were treated for worms. The mom passed them along to them.
I do wonder if it's regional - maybe our wicked northern winters kill the fleas outside or something. shrug
Plus, like you, no vet has told me to pre-treat my kitties. I feel uncomfortable giving them chemicals unless they absolutely need them.

there are products you can buy in America to deworm your animals at home but most people just go to the vet.

In fact, it makes me nervous when people deworm their animals at home because people who don't have any veterninary or medical training make very simple mistakes that sometimes have serious consequences.

That being said, there are some owners do an excellent job with that kind of thing and you can trust them to do the right thing always and you know that they'll call you before they get in over their head.

But then there's the majority of pet owners who don't have enough knowledge about what they are doing or enough technical skills and can end up hurting themself and/or the animal.

So I guess it just depends.
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Reply #47 posted 07/27/08 8:04pm

applekisses

JasmineFire said:

applekisses said:



Same here...although, when my cats were babies they were treated for worms. The mom passed them along to them.
I do wonder if it's regional - maybe our wicked northern winters kill the fleas outside or something. shrug
Plus, like you, no vet has told me to pre-treat my kitties. I feel uncomfortable giving them chemicals unless they absolutely need them.

there are products you can buy in America to deworm your animals at home but most people just go to the vet.

In fact, it makes me nervous when people deworm their animals at home because people who don't have any veterninary or medical training make very simple mistakes that sometimes have serious consequences.

That being said, there are some owners do an excellent job with that kind of thing and you can trust them to do the right thing always and you know that they'll call you before they get in over their head.

But then there's the majority of pet owners who don't have enough knowledge about what they are doing or enough technical skills and can end up hurting themself and/or the animal.

So I guess it just depends.


I'll just keep an eye out on their poops. ill lol
My sister-in-law is a nurse and gives her dogs, cats, horses and goats their medications at home. She's never had a problem (I think because of her med training) but, I'd NEVER try it.
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Reply #48 posted 07/28/08 5:06am

JasmineFire

applekisses said:

JasmineFire said:


there are products you can buy in America to deworm your animals at home but most people just go to the vet.

In fact, it makes me nervous when people deworm their animals at home because people who don't have any veterninary or medical training make very simple mistakes that sometimes have serious consequences.

That being said, there are some owners do an excellent job with that kind of thing and you can trust them to do the right thing always and you know that they'll call you before they get in over their head.

But then there's the majority of pet owners who don't have enough knowledge about what they are doing or enough technical skills and can end up hurting themself and/or the animal.

So I guess it just depends.


I'll just keep an eye out on their poops. ill lol
My sister-in-law is a nurse and gives her dogs, cats, horses and goats their medications at home. She's never had a problem (I think because of her med training) but, I'd NEVER try it.

Aaawwww...goats! mushy

what kind does she have?
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Reply #49 posted 07/28/08 6:45am

applekisses

JasmineFire said:

applekisses said:



I'll just keep an eye out on their poops. ill lol
My sister-in-law is a nurse and gives her dogs, cats, horses and goats their medications at home. She's never had a problem (I think because of her med training) but, I'd NEVER try it.

Aaawwww...goats! mushy

what kind does she have?


They're really cute and friendly, but they eat the horses tails! lol
They are total escape artists and like to get out of their pasture and the last time I was over there it was dark and I was walking to my car and the girl goat was waiting for me by my door - I was petting her and she was giving me kisses. mushy

They're mixed with two different breeds...this is one of them (I can't remember the other) and they look the most like this:

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Reply #50 posted 08/25/08 2:19pm

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I treat my cats (and my dog) with Droncit anytime they catch worms. It works really good.

And remember, leaving a cat indoor won't necessarely keep him from having flees or worms cat
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Reply #51 posted 08/25/08 2:46pm

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imago, i swear the entire internet shivers every time you log onto this site.
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Reply #52 posted 08/25/08 6:36pm

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amorbella said:

I do not own a cat because cats seem to have a severe problem with worms!!!
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thanks for saying this...i love animals, but i have a fear of worms!!!!!
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Reply #53 posted 08/25/08 6:40pm

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anyone else itchy? sad
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Reply #54 posted 08/25/08 6:49pm

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anyone else itchy? sad


yeah, but it has more to do with the person who started the thread than the actual topic.
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Reply #55 posted 08/25/08 7:46pm

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Poor Kitty. sad I hope it's okay.
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