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Judge: Girl's name, Talula Does The Hula, won't do

Ya'll this story is totally real. disbelief Ummmm, isn't that what nicknames are for in the event your parents give you a jacked up name???? confuse


http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...arre_names

WELLINGTON, New Zealand - A family court judge in New Zealand has had enough with parents giving their children bizarre names here, and did something about it.

Just ask Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii. He had her renamed.

Judge Rob Murfitt made the 9-year-old girl a ward of the court so that her name could be changed, he said in a ruling made public Thursday. The girl was involved in a custody battle, he said.

The new name was not made public to protect the girl's privacy.

"The court is profoundly concerned about the very poor judgment which this child's parents have shown in choosing this name," he wrote. "It makes a fool of the child and sets her up with a social disability and handicap, unnecessarily."

The girl had been so embarrassed at the name that she had never told her closest friends what it was. She told people to call her "K" instead, the girl's lawyer, Colleen MacLeod, told the court.

In his ruling, Murfitt cited a list of the unfortunate names.

Registration officials blocked some names, including Fish and Chips, Yeah Detroit, Keenan Got Lucy and Sex Fruit, he said. But others were allowed, including Number 16 Bus Shelter "and tragically, Violence," he said.

New Zealand law does not allow names that would cause offense to a reasonable person, among other conditions, said Brian Clarke, the registrar general of Births, Deaths and Marriages.

Clarke said officials usually talked to parents who proposed unusual names to convince them about the potential for embarrassment.

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Reply #1 posted 07/24/08 4:39pm

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The girl had been so embarrassed at the name that she had never told her closest friends what it was. She told people to call her "K" instead, the girl's lawyer, Colleen MacLeod, told the court.


poor kid.
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Reply #2 posted 07/24/08 4:41pm

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Registration officials blocked some names, including Fish and Chips, Yeah Detroit, Keenan Got Lucy and Sex Fruit, he said. But others were allowed, including Number 16 Bus Shelter "and tragically, Violence," he said.

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Reply #3 posted 07/24/08 4:52pm

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SCNDLS said:

Ya'll this story is totally real. disbelief Ummmm, isn't that what nicknames are for in the event your parents give you a jacked up name???? confuse


http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...arre_names

WELLINGTON, New Zealand - A family court judge in New Zealand has had enough with parents giving their children bizarre names here, and did something about it.

Just ask Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii. He had her renamed.

Judge Rob Murfitt made the 9-year-old girl a ward of the court so that her name could be changed, he said in a ruling made public Thursday. The girl was involved in a custody battle, he said.

The new name was not made public to protect the girl's privacy.

"The court is profoundly concerned about the very poor judgment which this child's parents have shown in choosing this name," he wrote. "It makes a fool of the child and sets her up with a social disability and handicap, unnecessarily."

The girl had been so embarrassed at the name that she had never told her closest friends what it was. She told people to call her "K" instead, the girl's lawyer, Colleen MacLeod, told the court.

In his ruling, Murfitt cited a list of the unfortunate names.

Registration officials blocked some names, including Fish and Chips, Yeah Detroit, Keenan Got Lucy and Sex Fruit, he said. But others were allowed, including Number 16 Bus Shelter "and tragically, Violence," he said.

New Zealand law does not allow names that would cause offense to a reasonable person, among other conditions, said Brian Clarke, the registrar general of Births, Deaths and Marriages.

Clarke said officials usually talked to parents who proposed unusual names to convince them about the potential for embarrassment.

[Edited 7/24/08 9:34am]


I'm sorry but WHAT! What the hell kind of name is that for your kid??? What is that anyway the point of conception???
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Reply #4 posted 07/24/08 5:11pm

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RenHoek said:

SCNDLS said:

Ya'll this story is totally real. disbelief Ummmm, isn't that what nicknames are for in the event your parents give you a jacked up name???? confuse


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I'm sorry but WHAT! What the hell kind of name is that for your kid??? What is that anyway the point of conception???



I've read about certain celebrities naming their children after the place of conception.

Can you imagine if everyone were named for the place of their conception? One would know quite a lot about a person (well, perhaps more about their parents, really...) just by name alone, were that the case. biggrin

Introducing people at parties would be fascinating! "Chevy Nova Backseat, I'd like you to meet Twilight Motel Room #3. Over there in the corner is Kitchen Table, she's Safeway Parking Lot's date."
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Reply #5 posted 07/24/08 5:12pm

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WillyWonka said:

RenHoek said:



I'm sorry but WHAT! What the hell kind of name is that for your kid??? What is that anyway the point of conception???



I've read about certain celebrities naming their children after the place of conception.

Can you imagine if everyone were named for the place of their conception? One would know quite a lot about a person (well, perhaps more about their parents, really...) just by name alone, were that the case. biggrin

Introducing people at parties would be fascinating! "Chevy Nova Backseat, I'd like you to meet Twilight Motel Room #3. Over there in the corner is Kitchen Table, she's Safeway Parking Lot's date."


I'm named after the place I was conceived.
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Reply #6 posted 07/24/08 5:51pm

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WillyWonka said:

RenHoek said:



I'm sorry but WHAT! What the hell kind of name is that for your kid??? What is that anyway the point of conception???



I've read about certain celebrities naming their children after the place of conception.

Can you imagine if everyone were named for the place of their conception? One would know quite a lot about a person (well, perhaps more about their parents, really...) just by name alone, were that the case. biggrin

Introducing people at parties would be fascinating! "Chevy Nova Backseat, I'd like you to meet Twilight Motel Room #3. Over there in the corner is Kitchen Table, she's Safeway Parking Lot's date."

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Reply #7 posted 07/24/08 6:04pm

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WillyWonka said:

RenHoek said:



I'm sorry but WHAT! What the hell kind of name is that for your kid??? What is that anyway the point of conception???



I've read about certain celebrities naming their children after the place of conception.

Can you imagine if everyone were named for the place of their conception? One would know quite a lot about a person (well, perhaps more about their parents, really...) just by name alone, were that the case. biggrin

Introducing people at parties would be fascinating! "Chevy Nova Backseat, I'd like you to meet Twilight Motel Room #3. Over there in the corner is Kitchen Table, she's Safeway Parking Lot's date."


umm... WillyWonka? biggrin (kidding) biggrin
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Reply #8 posted 07/24/08 6:05pm

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WillyWonka said:




I've read about certain celebrities naming their children after the place of conception.

Can you imagine if everyone were named for the place of their conception? One would know quite a lot about a person (well, perhaps more about their parents, really...) just by name alone, were that the case. biggrin

Introducing people at parties would be fascinating! "Chevy Nova Backseat, I'd like you to meet Twilight Motel Room #3. Over there in the corner is Kitchen Table, she's Safeway Parking Lot's date."


I'm named after the place I was conceived.


What's your name, if that's not too personal?
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Reply #9 posted 07/24/08 6:06pm

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Parents should be able to name their children whatever they want to. If they're taking care of them and loving them and providing for them the government shouldn't have shit to say. If the kid doesn't like their name go by a nickname until you're 18 and you can legally change it. shrug
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Reply #10 posted 07/24/08 6:11pm

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SCNDLS said:

Parents should be able to name their children whatever they want to. If they're taking care of them and loving them and providing for them the government shouldn't have shit to say. If the kid doesn't like their name go by a nickname until you're 18 and you can legally change it. shrug



I was thinking that...doesn't this go against free speech?

Sucks for you, if you are one of those kids in question, especially Sex Fruit. whofarted
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Reply #11 posted 07/24/08 6:11pm

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Parents should be able to name their children whatever they want to. If they're taking care of them and loving them and providing for them the government shouldn't have shit to say. If the kid doesn't like their name go by a nickname until you're 18 and you can legally change it. shrug


i see your point but in this case the judge's opinion was that the parents had done a poor job of taking care of their child by so naming her

"The court is profoundly concerned about the very poor judgment which this child's parents have shown in choosing this name," he wrote. "It makes a fool of the child and sets her up with a social disability and handicap, unnecessarily."
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XxAxX said:

SCNDLS said:

Parents should be able to name their children whatever they want to. If they're taking care of them and loving them and providing for them the government shouldn't have shit to say. If the kid doesn't like their name go by a nickname until you're 18 and you can legally change it. shrug


i see your point but in this case the judge's opinion was that the parents had done a poor job of taking care of their child by so naming her

"The court is profoundly concerned about the very poor judgment which this child's parents have shown in choosing this name," he wrote. "It makes a fool of the child and sets her up with a social disability and handicap, unnecessarily."



A lot of things parents do "makes a fool of the child and sets her up with a social disability and handicap, unnecessarily" the name is only part of it.
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Sweeny79 said:

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A lot of things parents do "makes a fool of the child and sets her up with a social disability and handicap, unnecessarily" the name is only part of it.



definitely true. i say it again and again - not everyone who CAN breed should breed
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Reply #14 posted 07/24/08 6:17pm

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XxAxX said:

Sweeny79 said:




A lot of things parents do "makes a fool of the child and sets her up with a social disability and handicap, unnecessarily" the name is only part of it.



definitely true. i say it again and again - not everyone who CAN breed should breed



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Reply #15 posted 07/24/08 6:42pm

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Some Unique names are very nice and others are just plain crazy. Who calls their kid Violence? Some crazy ass MF if you ask me. Talula is cute, but the rest is so immature and stupid.
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Reply #16 posted 07/24/08 6:56pm

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WillyWonka said:




I've read about certain celebrities naming their children after the place of conception.

Can you imagine if everyone were named for the place of their conception? One would know quite a lot about a person (well, perhaps more about their parents, really...) just by name alone, were that the case. biggrin

Introducing people at parties would be fascinating! "Chevy Nova Backseat, I'd like you to meet Twilight Motel Room #3. Over there in the corner is Kitchen Table, she's Safeway Parking Lot's date."


I'm named after the place I was conceived.



Did your parents conceive you on an air compressor? While running an errand? While putting air in the car tires? biggrin
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Reply #17 posted 07/24/08 7:01pm

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SCNDLS said:

Parents should be able to name their children whatever they want to. If they're taking care of them and loving them and providing for them the government shouldn't have shit to say. If the kid doesn't like their name go by a nickname until you're 18 and you can legally change it. shrug


i see your point but in this case the judge's opinion was that the parents had done a poor job of taking care of their child by so naming her

"The court is profoundly concerned about the very poor judgment which this child's parents have shown in choosing this name," he wrote. "It makes a fool of the child and sets her up with a social disability and handicap, unnecessarily."

Considering how many children are physically and emotionally abused in the world, I think this judge's time woulda been better used dealing with one of those cases. Again, she coulda gone by a nickname. Or just Talula. I'm sure her parents are NOT constantly calling her "Talula Does The Hula". I say if you can name your kids Moon Unit and Dweezil anything goes. shrug
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Reply #18 posted 07/24/08 7:22pm

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XxAxX said:

WillyWonka said:




I've read about certain celebrities naming their children after the place of conception.

Can you imagine if everyone were named for the place of their conception? One would know quite a lot about a person (well, perhaps more about their parents, really...) just by name alone, were that the case. biggrin

Introducing people at parties would be fascinating! "Chevy Nova Backseat, I'd like you to meet Twilight Motel Room #3. Over there in the corner is Kitchen Table, she's Safeway Parking Lot's date."


umm... WillyWonka? biggrin (kidding) biggrin



My given name is actually Bullwinkle E. Hfuhruhurr, and I was teased relentlessly as a child because of it.

I thought the name 'Willy Wonka' would cut down on the number of afterschool beatings and look better on credit cards.
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Reply #19 posted 07/24/08 7:27pm

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Some Unique names are very nice and others are just plain crazy. Who calls their kid Violence?



Perhaps those parents had a speech impediment and intended their child's name to be "Violets", but were misunderstood.
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WillyWonka said:

RenHoek said:



I'm sorry but WHAT! What the hell kind of name is that for your kid??? What is that anyway the point of conception???



I've read about certain celebrities naming their children after the place of conception.

Can you imagine if everyone were named for the place of their conception? One would know quite a lot about a person (well, perhaps more about their parents, really...) just by name alone, were that the case. biggrin

Introducing people at parties would be fascinating! "Chevy Nova Backseat, I'd like you to meet Twilight Motel Room #3. Over there in the corner is Kitchen Table, she's Safeway Parking Lot's date."


It could get confusing: "Get over here Bed! Not you, Bed, I mean Bed!"
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Reply #21 posted 07/24/08 7:32pm

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I've read about certain celebrities naming their children after the place of conception.

Can you imagine if everyone were named for the place of their conception? One would know quite a lot about a person (well, perhaps more about their parents, really...) just by name alone, were that the case. biggrin

Introducing people at parties would be fascinating! "Chevy Nova Backseat, I'd like you to meet Twilight Motel Room #3. Over there in the corner is Kitchen Table, she's Safeway Parking Lot's date."


It could get confusing: "Get over here Bed! Not you, Bed, I mean Bed!"




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Reply #22 posted 07/24/08 7:35pm

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Considering how many children are physically and emotionally abused in the world, I think this judge's time woulda been better used dealing with one of those cases. Again, she coulda gone by a nickname. Or just Talula. I'm sure her parents are NOT constantly calling her "Talula Does The Hula". I say if you can name your kids Moon Unit and Dweezil anything goes. shrug



i think the name change was a sub-part of the custody battle. looks like the judge just did the child a favor along the way.

and the child could not have just used a nickname, for the simple reason that any time she was required to be identified by her full name, liike school registration, etc. she would have to disclose that whole lame thing.

i do understand where you are coming from, but seeing as how the child herself hates the name, what happened is good imo.
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WillyWonka said:

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umm... WillyWonka? biggrin (kidding) biggrin



My given name is actually Bullwinkle E. Hfuhruhurr, and I was teased relentlessly as a child because of it.

I thought the name 'Willy Wonka' would cut down on the number of afterschool beatings and look better on credit cards.


hmmmm. maybe i should have MY name changed. then again, 'engelbert felicia humperdink' is kind of sensual, don't you think? batting eyes
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SCNDLS said:


Considering how many children are physically and emotionally abused in the world, I think this judge's time woulda been better used dealing with one of those cases. Again, she coulda gone by a nickname. Or just Talula. I'm sure her parents are NOT constantly calling her "Talula Does The Hula". I say if you can name your kids Moon Unit and Dweezil anything goes. shrug



i think the name change was a sub-part of the custody battle. looks like the judge just did the child a favor along the way.

and the child could not have just used a nickname, for the simple reason that any time she was required to be identified by her full name, liike school registration, etc. she would have to disclose that whole lame thing.

i do understand where you are coming from, but seeing as how the child herself hates the name, what happened is good imo.

I think you're inferring/assuming a whole lot here. Just because she was involved in a custody battle (and that could be an exaggeration) does not mean that any real abuse was involved. To me, the judge just didn't like her name and wanted to change it. Even if her school registration was in the full name what's so damn difficult about calling her "Talula" if she's so embarrassed. That's not that unusual of a name and is much more attractive IMO than Dweezil and Moon Unit Zappa. I went by a nickname all throughout school, and MOST people didn't know my real name. I think for a judge to make such a subjective decision when no real abuse is going on is kinda overstepping his bounds.
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I think I would go along with the "freedom of speech" argument if this did not involve someone completely helpless in the situation.

IMHO, the parents that choose these utterly bizarre names are very selfish.


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I see these kind of names as potentially abusive. Something like "Should Have Aborted" for example, would have psychological impact on a poor kid.

Of course it gets into a gray area where you're just judging a name. I know a kid whose middle name is "Kick" because he used to say "kick!" and throw the hang loose sign. The name's a joke, but it's harmless and he's a good dad.
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WillyWonka said:

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I'm named after the place I was conceived.



Did your parents conceive you on an air compressor? While running an errand? While putting air in the car tires? biggrin


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Reply #28 posted 07/25/08 3:39am

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WillyWonka said:




My given name is actually Bullwinkle E. Hfuhruhurr, and I was teased relentlessly as a child because of it.

I thought the name 'Willy Wonka' would cut down on the number of afterschool beatings and look better on credit cards.


hmmmm. maybe i should have MY name changed. then again, 'engelbert felicia humperdink' is kind of sensual, don't you think? batting eyes



Oh, indeed! The "Engelbert Felicia" combination is irresistably intriguing, and "Humperdink" - well, must I even explain the obvious allure of that?!

Don't change a thing, my dear!
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Reply #29 posted 07/25/08 3:54am

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WillyWonka said:




Did your parents conceive you on an air compressor? While running an errand? While putting air in the car tires? biggrin


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Erin is Gaelic for Ireland, where my mother is from and where I was conceived.



Very pretty, Erin, and suits you. Ireland is a captivating, lush and beautiful place...but rugged, too. That's you. smile
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