ButterscotchPimp said:

I don't know why you keep lumping Robin and Batgirl into the same group. Batgirl has never been an integral part of the Batman mythos. (I could see them using Babs as Oracle, though.) OTOH, Robin certainly is.


What was wrong with him? Well, he's a little wooden and his voice is terrible. He's a little better as Bruce this time around, but his Batman leaves much to be desired. I don't know who they could cast as Batman. I had such high hopes for Bale, but he hasn't lived up to them at all.

SCNDLS said:

I was just playing. I love Billy Dee. How could you not?

AlexdeParis said:

I was finna say. . . "Do you want my arm to fall off????" Sexy muthafucka

SCNDLS said:

Aw, thanks. You can't see me, but I'm shaking that ass, shaking that ass.

AlexdeParis said:

I bet if I throw that ass in the air it'll turn into sunshine.

SCNDLS said:

Never tried that. I am about to take a shower though... do you want me to save you the water?

Assuming they make Batman 3 (which they most likely will) the Riddler and Talia Al Ghul will be the main villains as they can fit the bill in this version of the whole Batman story (not too over the top and campy) But anything can happen really

AlexdeParis said:

Only bath water, baby.

Anxiety said:

bring him in at the beginning and then kill him off at the end, a la Jason Todd.

errant said:

there IS that.

Anxiety said:

it would be a sure-fire hit/feel-good moment for all of these fans out there that absolutely hate the idea of superhero moves being fun.

errant said:

maybe robin could be in the middle of rescuing kittens from a blazing amusement park when they're all blown up. that's freakin gritty. gritty kitty.

Anxiety said:

That still isn't as gritty as having the damn fans call in to kill the poor brat.

AlexdeParis said:

that's what should happen! christopher nolan should hire random fans of his batman movies to come on set and kill robin in front of the camera. you can't go grittier than that.

It just struck me!

They could use the villain from my all-time favorite Batman movie: The Phantasm! A live action version of Mask of the Phantasm would be killer!

I'm iffy about bringing Robin into Nolan's Batman movies. He's important to the Batman mythos in the comics, but I think he would suck in a movie. He would have to have a cooler costume than the bare-legs deal. I just don't think it would work.

About the Riddler: Gary Oldman recently said in print that he would like Jim Gordon to become the Riddler in kind of a big plot twist. I don't think he's ever read a Batman comic in his life!

Catwoman or Talia would be good for storylines because they could have Batman all twisted up in love with a criminal.

markpeg said:

how about some homoerotic undertones (or overtones, even) if Robin is included. now that would be gritty. and hot...

markpeg said:

Co-sign on that.

Just got back from 'The Dark Knight". IMO, it lived up to the hype. Great job by Nolan. The man did his homework, and it showed. Jack's Joker was good for its time, but Ledger blows Jack away. It's sad we'll never see him again as the Clown Prince. Who could follow Heath? Crispin Glover or Wilhem DaFoe would be my choices.

I'd like to see a crossover with Superman where the two start off as adversaries, but develop a grudging respect for each other. That would lead in to the Justice League. Marvel's going to have Avengers by 2011 - DC needs to get it going.

I'm seeing this tomorrow night

uPtoWnNY said:

You don't think Robin could work, but you actually want to see Batman and Superman together? I can't imagine that working at all. Doesn't Supes fly (no pun intended) in the face of all the "gritty realism"?

AlexdeParis said:

Frank Miller would be an excellent consultant for a Superman/Batman Crossover. He knew how to write for both characters in The Return of The Dark Knight graphic novel. Superman as the Ultimate Hero/Boy Scout and Batman as the Gritty Hero.

markpeg said:

But that's a comic book. I still don't think Superman can work in the Nolan universe. There haven't been any superpowers in either of these two movies. I'd be just as surprised to see Clayface in the next movie.

uPtoWnNY said:

Agree....this movie definitely lived up to the hype. Heath was chilling. This is the serious non-comedy Batman. As for who follows Heath...I wouldn't want the job. And I'd love to see Catwoman again...just not sure who can do the role justice and be dirty and evil. Who reminds me of Eartha Kitt?

This movie was so freaking overhyped! I don't get why people are so in love with it. It was alright. Nowhere near an epic or anything like that. And what's up with stupid Batman changing his voice everytime he had the mask on?

noimageatall said:

Kate Beckinsale? She was terrific in the 'Underworld' movies, plus she looked awesome in that tight, black costume.

DiamondGlove said:

The silliest scene in the movie was definitely when he was dressed as Batman talking to Morgan Freeman, and he was still doing that dumb voice! Why would he fake it to people who already know his identity?

I mostly liked the movie, but it was definitely too long and I found it really confusing in places.
[Edited 7/27/08 8:50am]

Batman 3...

Well, I think they definitely need to avoid having Robin (or any other sidekicks)
like the plague. Might as well invite JoelfuckinShumacher back if they go down
that route.

As for villains, well if they're gonna go for one of the main ones (which I guess
they should), then I'd like to see a new twist on Catwoman. I think The Riddler
would end up being too close to The Joker in tone, and I'm not sure that The
Penguin would really work that well in Nolan's more realistic bat-universe.

Catwoman could be interesting if they went with the angle of having her
almost like a rival to Batman in the vigilante stakes, while at the same time
having her real life identity becoming a potential love-interest for Bruce Wayne.
Play on the shades of gray aspect of her personality and the is she really the
bad guy or is she really no worse than Batman himself. This could follow on
well from Batman's current pariah status. Make her a highly trained hi-tech
vigilante like Batman, only instead of being born into money like Bruce, she
funds her operation through her cat-burglar activities, though have her
target mob targets etc to keep her 'villain' status constantly in question.
Possibly having a 'Harvey Dent'-like personal tragedy half way though
which sends her over to the 'dark side' and gives her a reason to have a
vendetta against Batman.
[Edited 7/27/08 15:31pm]

uPtoWnNY said:

Also....
Angelina? She's got the eyes and the moves. Too obvious?



Thandie Newton? She was wickedly beautiful in Chronicles.

Finally saw it tonight. It was LONG, which I usually don't mind but it FELT long to me. His Batman voice was hilarious! Ledger was good, but I think the Oscar talk may be a bit much. Still trying to figure out how the hell Maggie Gyllenhal got in this - it's such a non-role, & while I'm happy she got the $ b/c I like her as an actress she can be hard on the eyes. Interesting casting...

Here's someone's take on the ridiculous Bat-voice:

http://www.themovieblog.c...tman-talks