JustErin said: hokie said: I agree with everything you said except #5. Don't get all upset about it now. I won't. I just laugh at the stupid shit people post here. I don't go 'round defending Beyonce's "one biscuit away from being plus size" ass. | |
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hokie said: JustErin said: Don't get all upset about it now. I won't. I just laugh at the stupid shit people post here. I don't go 'round defending Beyonce's "one biscuit away from being plus size" ass. How did that silliness make it's way into this thread? | |
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JustErin said: hokie said: I won't. I just laugh at the stupid shit people post here. I don't go 'round defending Beyonce's "one biscuit away from being plus size" ass. How did that silliness make it's way into this thread? Oh...just thought I'd spread stupidity. That thread actually made me LOL for real. I can't believe how angry some people got. Like Beyonce was their sister or something. | |
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hokie said: JustErin said: How did that silliness make it's way into this thread? Oh...just thought I'd spread stupidity. That thread actually made me LOL for real. I can't believe how angry some people got. Like Beyonce was their sister or something. Ya, it was odd for sure. | |
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JustErin said: hokie said: Oh...just thought I'd spread stupidity. That thread actually made me LOL for real. I can't believe how angry some people got. Like Beyonce was their sister or something. Ya, it was odd for sure. | |
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Otherwise big thumbs up! jaimestarr79 said: JustErin said: It's great advice, though! But now he's gonna have to endure the advice on how to please women - which will be nothing, and I mean nothing like his advice. How to please women... ( take notes, it's not that difficult ) 1) Listen to them talk (no matter how boring the subject matter is) 2) clean up around the house and sometime cook. 3) respect her and her feelings 4) realize women can be very sensitive 5) Men have to realize that all of women's decision's are based on emotion and not necessarily common sense or reasoning 6) offer massages every now and then 7) go down on her 8) make her laugh 9) let her have girls night out 10) always pleasure her first before yourself 11) tell her how sexy she is 12) never go to bed angry 13) be assertive and tell them what you want ( be a man ) 14) come up with a funny alternative name instead of saying I want a BJ, hummer, blow job, etc. * so fellas if you can do all this, she owes you hummer back pay. [Edited 7/21/08 13:51pm] [Edited 7/21/08 13:52pm] | |
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I'm with Erin - if you're doing a bunch of shit around the house, helping w/ the kids & showing her you appreciate her she really has no excuses other than she never liked the shit in the first place. Sorry dude I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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jaimestarr79 said: How to please women... ( take notes, it's not that difficult ) 1) Listen to them talk (no matter how boring the subject matter is) We talk all the time and I love to listen to her, it had a lot to do with her moving to the US for me. 2) clean up around the house and sometime cook. I do all the cooking and most of the laundry. 3) respect her and her feelings. That one's easy 4) realize women can be very sensitive. Oh HELL YEAH!!! Best be watchin' my step when the full moon nears... 5) Men have to realize that all of women's decision's are based on emotion and not necessarily common sense or reasoning. I sincerely doubt this, it sure as hell isn't ALL. 6) offer massages every now and then. Oh yeah... 7) go down on her As often as possible 8) make her laugh. Every day, sometimes intentionally... 9) let her have girls night out Every Wednesday, check! 10) always pleasure her first before yourself That's my favorite... 11) tell her how sexy she is. Daily, if not semi-daily! 12) never go to bed angry. Good advice but sometimes hard to do if you're on the couch... 13) be assertive and tell them what you want ( be a man ) Yeah you betcha! 14) come up with a funny alternative name instead of saying I want a BJ, hummer, blow job, etc. We call it Hot Dog wranglin' * so fellas if you can do all this, she owes you hummer back pay. [Edited 7/21/08 13:51pm] [Edited 7/21/08 13:52pm] A working class Hero is something to be ~ Lennon |
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JustErin said: Listen, I can totally understand how women can get frustrated that their partner does not help out as much as they should...I just don't see the connection between that and sex.
If someone is unhappy with how their partner is just deal with it and end it if things don't change to the way you would like it to. Don't just stay in it and then withhold sex because you're bitter about your relationship. And this goes for men as well who are bitter that their wife isn't putting out the same as she used to so they retaliate in other ways. But I can only see someone who does not enjoy sex in the first place using that against a partner because from what I have seen, they want to do this, continue to do this but they also do not wish to end the relationship. Again, if you're not one that enjoys sex, or certain sex acts that’s fine...don't pretend you do just to snag a partner and then change once you have them on lock down. I don't think that people are saying that helping out around the house is directly related to a woman's sex drive, but in a lot of relationships, having a husband or boyfriend who helps out around the house by cooking dinner, doing household chores, and helping out with the kids make the woman feel appreciated, which in turn causes more loving feelings in her for her man, which then leads to increasing horniness and sex drive, etc. One thing I have noticed about a lot of relationships is that having a family really changes the sexual dynamic. Now it could be a case where the woman was never really enthusiastic about giving blow jobs to her man in the first place but did that out of duty in order to keep her man happy and her relationship intact, but there are more cases of where married couples are complete horndog freaks who can and do every kinky thing imaginable until they have their first child. Then the family responsibilities take up so much time and energy that the couples are too tired half of the time to get in the mood for sex. That's true of many women, but some men as well. Then there's the whole issue of one or both of the partners "letting themselves go" with their bodies, which makes the other partner feel that they are unattractive. And for some people, mostly the ladies but true with some men also, having a child physically reduces the amount of testosterone in the body, thereby reducing the libido and making the partner less interested in sexual activity. And then there's another whole issue with the relationship itself. I have a female friend who is going through a divorce right now, and she says that she has been sexually repulsed by her now estranged husband for the last year and a half. When they were dating, they had sex pretty often, and she even admired his length and size. But he also had children from a previous baby mama, and he was always catering to his mother's wishes, and that put a lot of stress on the relationship. Over time, it became apparent that he wasn't willing to act like a real man and take charge of his marriage and stand up for his wife (my best friend). She said that she would spend hours at work, only to come home and run herself ragged doing errands, taking care of their daughter and his two other children from the other relationship while he played video games in the other room, watched TV, or hung out with friends. She said that she would often go to bed dead tired, but he would wake her up asking for sex. She got really annoyed with this after a while. Now we'll sometime talk about sexual matters at times, but whenever I bring up whether or not she would like to go down on her favorite actor, she always cuts me off in conversation. I don't think that she particularly enjoys giving head herself, but she thinks I'm a pervert because she asked me if I would ever go down on a woman who for some reason had two clits, and I told her that I would because I would be giving her double the pleasure. | |
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Tremolina said: JasmineFire said: this makes a lot of sense to me. sex is about more than just doing what you enjoy. it's also about how the other person makes you feel. OK, so when your man does some stuff around the house, organises your parents to take the kids over the weekend, tells you not to cook, because he is bringing something home with you, you feel sexy?? I would think you feel sexy when he worships your body and you his gorgeous cock, sitting on your knees in front of him giving him the blowjob of a lifetime... But to each his own I guess - [Edited 7/21/08 3:46am] this question is about marriage and kids right? fitting all you mentioned above that into a packed schedule, is pretty much impossible on an ordinary day. He doesn't worship my body when I am in a tracksuit, mopping up vomit off the floor without his help while he plays golf on his blackberry. His cock could be on Mars for all I care. | |
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JustErin said: ZombieKitten said: omg and THERE IT IS uh oh that is SOOOO true If those feelings are gone and there is something you love to do but just not on him happens why the hell would one be with this person? If it were me, I would not want to traumatise my 3 fantastic children over an occasional aversion to sucking my husband's dick when most other things are OK | |
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ZombieKitten said: Tremolina said: OK, so when your man does some stuff around the house, organises your parents to take the kids over the weekend, tells you not to cook, because he is bringing something home with you, you feel sexy?? I would think you feel sexy when he worships your body and you his gorgeous cock, sitting on your knees in front of him giving him the blowjob of a lifetime... But to each his own I guess - [Edited 7/21/08 3:46am] this question is about marriage and kids right? fitting all you mentioned above that into a packed schedule, is pretty much impossible on an ordinary day. He doesn't worship my body when I am in a tracksuit, mopping up vomit off the floor without his help while he plays golf on his blackberry. His cock could be on Mars for all I care. | |
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Tremolina said: JustErin said: Ya, I will never understand how a man doing chores and doing work makes a woman feel sexy. I just don't understand how stuff outside of sex - that has nothing to do with sex makes a woman feel better while having sex. I never quite understood either how so many women mix "sex" with "love". I mean just because he fucks your brains out and makes you horny all the time, doesn't automatically mean you "love him". but the fact is after a LOOOOONG time with the same man, it takes more effort for him to get her horny. Just whipping out his cock has no effect | |
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abigail05 said: I'm not the boring one, trust me. Doctor did try to prescribe estrogen, but she's not having it. It's a self-image thing. I however think she's hot as hell. Is this too much information? Let's get back to bitching about head.
does she even know this?! you are talking about a woman's self image, I always see it as water in a bucket, rather than causing it to overflow, your compliments and positive affirmations (verbal or otherwise) keep it at a good level. | |
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Tremolina said: JustErin said: Going by those posts I'd say my initial post definitely stands true. It certainly looks like it's just not something she enjoys and never did enjoy but she did it just to make you happy before you were married. She's just giving excuses where it would be better for her to just admit that she doesn't like to do it. But whatever, she may never admit it so now you have to decide if you're ok going without (because you have no right to insist that she do it) or if you're not ok It's really sad that people are just not upfront about these things from the get go and would rather deceive someone just to get them. I lay my cards on the table on day one - take it or leave it. Hey if those cards say: I love your cock and I will suck and fuck it the best I can untill death do us part, I don't think you would have any problem keeping your man happy. But if they don't, as with some women, then I wonder if you should really tell... - [Edited 7/21/08 8:27am] I just think a cock by itself, without the man it's attached to, is absolutely NOTHING. this may be shocking to some of you | |
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jaimestarr79 said: 1) Listen to them talk (no matter how boring the subject matter is)
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ZombieKitten said: Tremolina said: Hey if those cards say: I love your cock and I will suck and fuck it the best I can untill death do us part, I don't think you would have any problem keeping your man happy. But if they don't, as with some women, then I wonder if you should really tell... - [Edited 7/21/08 8:27am] I just think a cock by itself, without the man it's attached to, is absolutely NOTHING. this may be shocking to some of you | |
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jaimestarr79 said: JustErin said: It's great advice, though! But now he's gonna have to endure the advice on how to please women - which will be nothing, and I mean nothing like his advice. How to please women... ( take notes, it's not that difficult ) 1) Listen to them talk (no matter how boring the subject matter is) 2) clean up around the house and sometime cook. 3) respect her and her feelings 4) realize women can be very sensitive 5) Men have to realize that all of women's decision's are based on emotion and not necessarily common sense or reasoning 6) offer massages every now and then 7) go down on her 8) make her laugh 9) let her have girls night out 10) always pleasure her first before yourself 11) tell her how sexy she is 12) never go to bed angry 13) be assertive and tell them what you want ( be a man ) 14) come up with a funny alternative name instead of saying I want a BJ, hummer, blow job, etc. well this sounds very sensible if he did ANY OF THIS he would be in with a chance! | |
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jaimestarr79 said: Let him walk in the room and catch you pleasuring yourself every now and then.
that has happened many times and he simply backs out of the room with a mumbled apology WTF!!!! | |
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ZombieKitten said: Tremolina said: OK, so when your man does some stuff around the house, organises your parents to take the kids over the weekend, tells you not to cook, because he is bringing something home with you, you feel sexy?? I would think you feel sexy when he worships your body and you his gorgeous cock, sitting on your knees in front of him giving him the blowjob of a lifetime... But to each his own I guess - [Edited 7/21/08 3:46am] this question is about marriage and kids right? fitting all you mentioned above that into a packed schedule, is pretty much impossible on an ordinary day. He doesn't worship my body when I am in a tracksuit, mopping up vomit off the floor without his help while he plays golf on his blackberry. His cock could be on Mars for all I care. Not for all women. | |
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ZombieKitten said: jaimestarr79 said: Let him walk in the room and catch you pleasuring yourself every now and then.
that has happened many times and he simply backs out of the room with a mumbled apology WTF!!!! | |
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ZombieKitten said: Tremolina said: I never quite understood either how so many women mix "sex" with "love". I mean just because he fucks your brains out and makes you horny all the time, doesn't automatically mean you "love him". but the fact is after a LOOOOONG time with the same man, it takes more effort for him to get her horny. Just whipping out his cock has no effect I spent 10 years with someone. Sex never changed with us overtime. | |
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ZombieKitten said: Tremolina said: Hey if those cards say: I love your cock and I will suck and fuck it the best I can untill death do us part, I don't think you would have any problem keeping your man happy. But if they don't, as with some women, then I wonder if you should really tell... - [Edited 7/21/08 8:27am] I just think a cock by itself, without the man it's attached to, is absolutely NOTHING. this may be shocking to some of you I didn't see anyone say different on here? | |
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728huey said: JustErin said:
Listen, I can totally understand how women can get frustrated that their partner does not help out as much as they should...I just don't see the connection between that and sex.
If someone is unhappy with how their partner is just deal with it and end it if things don't change to the way you would like it to. Don't just stay in it and then withhold sex because you're bitter about your relationship. And this goes for men as well who are bitter that their wife isn't putting out the same as she used to so they retaliate in other ways. But I can only see someone who does not enjoy sex in the first place using that against a partner because from what I have seen, they want to do this, continue to do this but they also do not wish to end the relationship. Again, if you're not one that enjoys sex, or certain sex acts that’s fine...don't pretend you do just to snag a partner and then change once you have them on lock down. I don't think that people are saying that helping out around the house is directly related to a woman's sex drive, but in a lot of relationships, having a husband or boyfriend who helps out around the house by cooking dinner, doing household chores, and helping out with the kids make the woman feel appreciated, which in turn causes more loving feelings in her for her man, which then leads to increasing horniness and sex drive, etc. One thing I have noticed about a lot of relationships is that having a family really changes the sexual dynamic. Now it could be a case where the woman was never really enthusiastic about giving blow jobs to her man in the first place but did that out of duty in order to keep her man happy and her relationship intact, but there are more cases of where married couples are complete horndog freaks who can and do every kinky thing imaginable until they have their first child. Then the family responsibilities take up so much time and energy that the couples are too tired half of the time to get in the mood for sex. That's true of many women, but some men as well. Then there's the whole issue of one or both of the partners "letting themselves go" with their bodies, which makes the other partner feel that they are unattractive. And for some people, mostly the ladies but true with some men also, having a child physically reduces the amount of testosterone in the body, thereby reducing the libido and making the partner less interested in sexual activity. And then there's another whole issue with the relationship itself. I have a female friend who is going through a divorce right now, and she says that she has been sexually repulsed by her now estranged husband for the last year and a half. When they were dating, they had sex pretty often, and she even admired his length and size. But he also had children from a previous baby mama, and he was always catering to his mother's wishes, and that put a lot of stress on the relationship. Over time, it became apparent that he wasn't willing to act like a real man and take charge of his marriage and stand up for his wife (my best friend). She said that she would spend hours at work, only to come home and run herself ragged doing errands, taking care of their daughter and his two other children from the other relationship while he played video games in the other room, watched TV, or hung out with friends. She said that she would often go to bed dead tired, but he would wake her up asking for sex. She got really annoyed with this after a while. Now we'll sometime talk about sexual matters at times, but whenever I bring up whether or not she would like to go down on her favorite actor, she always cuts me off in conversation. I don't think that she particularly enjoys giving head herself, but she thinks I'm a pervert because she asked me if I would ever go down on a woman who for some reason had two clits, and I told her that I would because I would be giving her double the pleasure. SO many factors about letting oneself go, with age, metablolism slows, and requires heaps more effort and time, which is exactly what you don't have much of once you have a bunch of kids | |
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JustErin said: ZombieKitten said: but the fact is after a LOOOOONG time with the same man, it takes more effort for him to get her horny. Just whipping out his cock has no effect I spent 10 years with someone. Sex never changed with us overtime. how many of those years were you parents? | |
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ZombieKitten said: JustErin said: I spent 10 years with someone. Sex never changed with us overtime. how many of those years were you parents? None, but I am a parent now and nothing sexually has changed. No matter how busy my day is or how tired I am, I don't say no to sex because it's something I really enjoy...just like I always have. | |
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JustErin said: ZombieKitten said: how many of those years were you parents? None, but I am a parent now and nothing sexually has changed. No matter how busy my day is or how tired I am, I don't say no to sex because it's something I really enjoy...just like I always have. you have the option of variety in choice of partners they don't have to live in your house messing it up and arguing with you about child-rearing. I would also think making a booty call at the end of the day refreshing and something exciting to look forwards to. However, if I've been at loggerheads with him all evening about differences in opinions regarding how I do things, or what has and hasn't been done yet. etc. HIM is the last person I want to fuck to be honest. If I could call up someone who has no influence on the rest of my life, who only sees me when I look great or am in the mood to party, I would be fucking him like there is no tomorrow, because all the rest of that everyday shit would have nothing to do with it. | |
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this thread is depressing!
You make a commitment and what do you get? For millions of people, the answer is "loss of sex life." All the justifications or reasons don't change it. Either the sex is there or not, and in the beginning there's none of those issues. My Legacy
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ZombieKitten said: JustErin said: None, but I am a parent now and nothing sexually has changed. No matter how busy my day is or how tired I am, I don't say no to sex because it's something I really enjoy...just like I always have. you have the option of variety in choice of partners they don't have to live in your house messing it up and arguing with you about child-rearing. I would also think making a booty call at the end of the day refreshing and something exciting to look forwards to. However, if I've been at loggerheads with him all evening about differences in opinions regarding how I do things, or what has and hasn't been done yet. etc. HIM is the last person I want to fuck to be honest. If I could call up someone who has no influence on the rest of my life, who only sees me when I look great or am in the mood to party, I would be fucking him like there is no tomorrow, because all the rest of that everyday shit would have nothing to do with it. It's as if life-partners should be separate from sex-partners. My Legacy
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NDRU said: ZombieKitten said: you have the option of variety in choice of partners they don't have to live in your house messing it up and arguing with you about child-rearing. I would also think making a booty call at the end of the day refreshing and something exciting to look forwards to. However, if I've been at loggerheads with him all evening about differences in opinions regarding how I do things, or what has and hasn't been done yet. etc. HIM is the last person I want to fuck to be honest. If I could call up someone who has no influence on the rest of my life, who only sees me when I look great or am in the mood to party, I would be fucking him like there is no tomorrow, because all the rest of that everyday shit would have nothing to do with it. It's as if life-partners should be separate from sex-partners. it might really help to have a little meat on the side | |
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