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IceNine

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Please answer a few questions that have been bothering me for some time and that I can't seem to figure out... please.

Exactly how does one hate ON someone? Hate is not a substance that can be thrown on someone, nor is it something that someone can slip on and fall into...

Example: "Don't hate on Prince!"

What the fuck?

Example 2: "Hey, Jim... watch out, you don't want to slip... you might fall and get hate all over yourself... the dry cleaning bill will be pretty high for something like that."

NEXT QUESTION:

Why do people leave verbs out of sentences?

Example: "You funny!" or "You crazy!"

What the fuck? How hard would it have been to put the rather useful verb "are" into that sentence?

New Example: "You are funny!" or "You're funny!"

NEXT QUESTION:

Exactly what is a "bruh" or a "brah?"

I have seen this multiple times and wondered what was up... one can assume that it is some sort of colloquial variant of "brother" or something, but why not type "brother" instead?

Example: "What's up, bruh?"

There are more, but I will leave off here for now...
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Reply #1 posted 11/11/02 5:06am

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ok this will be fun

"Exactly how does one hate ON someone? "

It is quite simple Icenine. Americans invented this stupid saying and since they can hardly speak english anyway it is not surprising that it doesn't make any sense.

"Why do people leave verbs out of sentences?"

3 reasons
1 - they are lazy bastards
2 - they are just stupid and are incapable of normal speech
3 - they think it is cool.

"Exactly what is a "bruh" or a "brah?""

yes it is a shortening of 'brother' and once again
there are - 3 reasons

1 - they are lazy bastards
2 - they are just stupid and are incapable of normal speech
3 - they think it is cool.

I thought you were intelligent Icenine, if you havent realised most people in the world are amazingly stupid yet, I don't know what to say about you.
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Reply #2 posted 11/11/02 5:13am

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Someone who doesn't know how to use verbs has just voted this topic one star... it seems that their understanding of the rating system is as pathetic as their understanding of the English language, as they should have voted ZERO stars.

Try again, please.
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Reply #3 posted 11/11/02 5:39am

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it's not such a big deal ice...hope you haven't been losing sleep over it...just ignore it or laugh at it if it bothers you that much...
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Reply #4 posted 11/11/02 6:00am

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AprilMichelle said:

it's not such a big deal ice...hope you haven't been losing sleep over it...just ignore it or laugh at it if it bothers you that much...


It is simply a question... no sleep lost... just wondering...
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Reply #5 posted 11/11/02 6:04am

4LOVE

I can't speak for all,but maybe it's part of a movement against authority.If you don't understand it i am sure there is a book that can break it down better for you if you really want to know.I myself use these words and have had no problem communicating(if communication is what we are talking about).Slang is in every language on every continent.Don't let it bug you too much,just be yourself and Rock On Dude.
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Reply #6 posted 11/11/02 6:05am

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I have a freind who is obssesed with this point. He seems to think that we, being English, are now nothing more than a regional dialect of our own language. In some software you get nowadays, you can only select British English instead of plain English. This is just wrong.
As a result, you get "hate on", no verbs, abbreiviations and basic bad grammar which ordinarily wouldn't be a concern, but when they spread to such a point as to be the received grammatical norm, then it becomes irritating.
Still, no more irritating than center, instead of centre, tire instead of tyre etc etc. etc.
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Reply #7 posted 11/11/02 6:47am

SkletonKee

I'd like to know the idiot who told the rest of his village when to use the word "boo".


Such as, "baby, i love you..you will always be my boo".


What the hell is up with that? errr...
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Reply #8 posted 11/11/02 6:53am

IceNine

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SkletonKee said:

I'd like to know the idiot who told the rest of his village when to use the word "boo".


Such as, "baby, i love you..you will always be my boo".


What the hell is up with that? errr...


Yeah... what in the world is a "boo" anyway?
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Reply #9 posted 11/11/02 7:28am

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Okay... I now believe that "boo" and "bruh" and stuff like that are part of a certain vernacular.

I can "dig" stuff like calling people "cat" and stuff like that is "hip," so there is no problem with "boo" and "bruh" and things like that...

Now... how do you hate ON someone?
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Reply #10 posted 11/11/02 7:36am

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IceNine said:

SkletonKee said:

I'd like to know the idiot who told the rest of his village when to use the word "boo".


Such as, "baby, i love you..you will always be my boo".


What the hell is up with that? errr...


Yeah... what in the world is a "boo" anyway?



It's SPICE Ice. Have you ever went to the restaurant and the only thing to spice up your food is white salt. Not seasoned salt, no herbs, no garlic powder, none of the other spices that make food taste good? White salt can get a bit boring when used alone. Same for the english language. Slangs have peppered the english language since the beginning of time. The Irish have their own spice, The Carribeans have theirs, Southern Americans have theirs, and so forth and so on. Who's to say which is worst or best? Just because you fail to understand the context doesn't mean it's spoken by idiots. Your references to words such as "boo" and the like is just SPICE added to the english language to give it a bit of taste.

Ya no?
"Use this tool to control the masses w/guaranteed success: Divide/Conquer =>No Communication cuz we are Divided =>Misunderstanding cuz we don't Communicate =>We can't Agree we only Misunderstand =>Chaos cuz we can't Agree. Chaos-an evil tool indeed!"
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Reply #11 posted 11/11/02 7:45am

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SweeTea said:

IceNine said:

SkletonKee said:

I'd like to know the idiot who told the rest of his village when to use the word "boo".


Such as, "baby, i love you..you will always be my boo".


What the hell is up with that? errr...


Yeah... what in the world is a "boo" anyway?



It's SPICE Ice. Have you ever went to the restaurant and the only thing to spice up your food is white salt. Not seasoned salt, no herbs, no garlic powder, none of the other spices that make food taste good? White salt can get a bit boring when used alone. Same for the english language. Slangs have peppered the english language since the beginning of time. The Irish have their own spice, The Carribeans have theirs, Southern Americans have theirs, and so forth and so on. Who's to say which is worst or best? Just because you fail to understand the context doesn't mean it's spoken by idiots. Your references to words such as "boo" and the like is just SPICE added to the english language to give it a bit of taste.

Ya no?


I gotcha... I agree with you... I just thought of the whole jazz vocabulary earlier and decided that both are examples of a certain vernacular and are basically both as acceptable... I just like the jazz vernacular but not the other... that is just my personal taste.

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Reply #12 posted 11/11/02 7:50am

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IceNine said:

SweeTea said:

IceNine said:

SkletonKee said:

I'd like to know the idiot who told the rest of his village when to use the word "boo".


Such as, "baby, i love you..you will always be my boo".


What the hell is up with that? errr...


Yeah... what in the world is a "boo" anyway?



It's SPICE Ice. Have you ever went to the restaurant and the only thing to spice up your food is white salt. Not seasoned salt, no herbs, no garlic powder, none of the other spices that make food taste good? White salt can get a bit boring when used alone. Same for the english language. Slangs have peppered the english language since the beginning of time. The Irish have their own spice, The Carribeans have theirs, Southern Americans have theirs, and so forth and so on. Who's to say which is worst or best? Just because you fail to understand the context doesn't mean it's spoken by idiots. Your references to words such as "boo" and the like is just SPICE added to the english language to give it a bit of taste.

Ya no?


I gotcha... I agree with you... I just thought of the whole jazz vocabulary earlier and decided that both are examples of a certain vernacular and are basically both as acceptable... I just like the jazz vernacular but not the other... that is just my personal taste.

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OK you weren't supposed to do that. I thought we were going to have a good old humdinger of a debate!! smile
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Reply #13 posted 11/11/02 8:09am

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Americans invented this stupid saying and since they can hardly speak english anyway it is not surprising that it doesn't make any sense.



Ok, I just looked at your profile and what the fuck is 'fack'? I may use the phrase "hate on" but at least I know how to use proper curse words. nod
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Reply #14 posted 11/11/02 8:11am

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Okay, will someone explain some of these new terms, like "shorty" for a woman? What's up with that? Don't ladies find that offensive? And please explain the whole thing with throwing in "iz" into the middle of words? Like "yo, man! I saw Spider-man! The Grizeen Gizoblin was the shiznit!" Please, someone elucidate for me!
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Reply #15 posted 11/11/02 8:35am

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IceNine said:

Exactly how does one hate ON someone? Hate is not a substance that can be thrown on someone, nor is it something that someone can slip on and fall into...

Example: "Don't hate on Prince!"

What the fuck?

Example 2: "Hey, Jim... watch out, you don't want to slip... you might fall and get hate all over yourself... the dry cleaning bill will be pretty high for something like that."

While not grammatically correct, the expression nonetheless makes sense. In fact, the "on" emphasizes the mechanical or automatic nature hate can take on when someone is to persistently negative. The "on" isolates the verb from its object. It implies you tend to hate a lot of things, that you're just hating, and only the object of your hatred changes. So instead of asking "who do you hate today?", it's "What are you hating on?"



NEXT QUESTION:

Why do people leave verbs out of sentences?

Example: "You funny!" or "You crazy!"

What the fuck? How hard would it have been to put the rather useful verb "are" into that sentence?

New Example: "You are funny!" or "You're funny!"

Omitting the verb signals a post-modern approach to commenting. You are commmenting, but by omitting the verb, you leave the sincerity of the statement up to interpretation, like doing the quote sign while saying a word.




NEXT QUESTION:

Exactly what is a "bruh" or a "brah?"

I have seen this multiple times and wondered what was up... one can assume that it is some sort of colloquial variant of "brother" or something, but why not type "brother" instead?

Example: "What's up, bruh?"

There are more, but I will leave off here for now...

See, Icenine... the more connected you fell or want to feel to a person, the fewer codes you will need. Between two actual brothers, a mere cough might signal it's time to stop for coffee and donuts. When people omit codes from language, it's because they want to establish you should be familiar with them to some extent, they think you have enough in common to dispense with the odd verb or syllable.

I hope I have given a convincing answer to each question. Next I will finally answer the question you asked a long time ago (re: The meaning of life).



[This message was edited Mon Nov 11 8:38:05 PST 2002 by Aerogram]
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Reply #16 posted 11/11/02 8:41am

origmnd

Hope you don't think Prince is stupid for using...U C 2 4 Y etc-- instead of their appropriate full words?
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Reply #17 posted 11/11/02 8:47am

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origmnd said:

Hope you don't think Prince is stupid for using...U C 2 4 Y etc-- instead of their appropriate full words?


I have never really liked it, but it is okay... I don't have to like it. The same goes for these other questions... I don't have to like it... I was just asking.

What I REALLY don't like is when Prince fans try to write in Princebonics... that is just silly. Then again, I don't have to like that either... people should do what they want to do just as I have done by stating that I don't like it...

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Reply #18 posted 11/11/02 8:50am

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JediMaster said:

Okay, will someone explain some of these new terms, like "shorty" for a woman? What's up with that? Don't ladies find that offensive? And please explain the whole thing with throwing in "iz" into the middle of words? Like "yo, man! I saw Spider-man! The Grizeen Gizoblin was the shiznit!" Please, someone elucidate for me!

I hate the term 'shorty" especially when you're taller than the guy.
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Reply #19 posted 11/11/02 9:57am

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You forgot "bling bling"
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Reply #20 posted 11/11/02 10:22am

4LOVE

JediMaster said:

Okay, will someone explain some of these new terms, like "shorty" for a woman? What's up with that? Don't ladies find that offensive? And please explain the whole thing with throwing in "iz" into the middle of words? Like "yo, man! I saw Spider-man! The Grizeen Gizoblin was the shiznit!" Please, someone elucidate for me!


If this doesn't work for you try pig latin wink
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Reply #21 posted 11/11/02 10:37am

tackam

IceNine said:

Okay... I now believe that "boo" and "bruh" and stuff like that are part of a certain vernacular.

I can "dig" stuff like calling people "cat" and stuff like that is "hip," so there is no problem with "boo" and "bruh" and things like that...

Now... how do you hate ON someone?



I just have to say that I think it is the mark of true intellectual integrity to be willing to change one's mind/perspective. Ice, you're my hero. wink

The "hate on" thing is simply a part of that annoying-but-as-valid-as-any-other vernacular that annoys you.

Happy?

Go look at your metaphysics thread, I wanna know what you think of my Kant summary.

Doves,
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Reply #22 posted 11/11/02 10:38am

tackam

Actually, I think it was your epistemology thread, sorry.

Doves,
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Reply #23 posted 11/11/02 10:40am

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i is qwite perplexed bys dis also.
i is been wonderin too ha hard would its bes
to puts in da damn verbal ha hard it is to
jess say WUT ARE UP... buts in steds da says WHUT UP
i is be lookin at dis as da lazyness of peoples.
i is happy to see dat dere is some peoples out dere
who is reconizin da plite dat is facin ares nations.
i is also bewildered wit da mens who is over 21
dats ride da skateboards and wears days hats backwards.
if yaw aints carryin no gun, why is you need baggy clothes?
i is waitin wit da baits on my btreth fo deese an uther
answers...
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Reply #24 posted 11/11/02 10:42am

IceNine

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CHEECHWIZARD said:

i is qwite perplexed bys dis also.
i is been wonderin too ha hard would its bes
to puts in da damn verbal ha hard it is to
jess say WUT ARE UP... buts in steds da says WHUT UP
i is be lookin at dis as da lazyness of peoples.
i is happy to see dat dere is some peoples out dere
who is reconizin da plite dat is facin ares nations.
i is also bewildered wit da mens who is over 21
dats ride da skateboards and wears days hats backwards.
if yaw aints carryin no gun, why is you need baggy clothes?
i is waitin wit da baits on my btreth fo deese an uther
answers...



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Reply #25 posted 11/11/02 10:49am

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I DESPISE the phrase "hating on" to describe someone's negative reaction. TOTALLY DESPISE it.

But then the variant "hateration"...now that's a cool description! biggrin

IceNine said:

NEXT QUESTION:

Exactly what is a "bruh" or a "brah?"

I have seen this multiple times and wondered what was up... one can assume that it is some sort of colloquial variant of "brother" or something, but why not type "brother" instead?

Example: "What's up, bruh?"

Short for "brother" or "brotha." Some people write like they speak, instead of dressing it up in King's English. Although I've never referred to anyone as "bruh" I do sometimes write like I speak, with slang.

Did I mention how much I DESPISE the phrase "hating on"? ill

God, I can't stand it.
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Reply #26 posted 11/11/02 10:56am

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Supernova said:

I DESPISE the phrase "hating on" to describe someone's negative reaction. TOTALLY DESPISE it.

But then the variant "hateration"...now that's a cool description! biggrin

IceNine said:

NEXT QUESTION:

Exactly what is a "bruh" or a "brah?"

I have seen this multiple times and wondered what was up... one can assume that it is some sort of colloquial variant of "brother" or something, but why not type "brother" instead?

Example: "What's up, bruh?"

Short for "brother" or "brotha." Some people write like they speak, instead of dressing it up in King's English. Although I've never referred to anyone as "bruh" I do sometimes write like I speak, with slang.

Did I mention how much I DESPISE the phrase "hating on"? ill

God, I can't stand it.

Da King's English refered to as da BAD TERMS.
as he is done took it too a ho nudder level.
King BAD is the giver of ME LIFE
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Reply #27 posted 11/11/02 10:59am

Lleena

What king? Dont you mean the Queens English Super?

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Lleena said:

What king? Dont you mean the Queens English Super?

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Um, trying to understand that one is tough! smile
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Reply #29 posted 11/11/02 11:05am

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Lleena said:

What king? Dont you mean the Queens English Super?

big grin wink

Trust me, I meant the King's English.
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