Is it possible for an employer to black ball your ass?

I think so but I'm not sure!

Because after I cursed my last employer out, I'm having a little difficulty here in this city!

I've never had problems with references! I bet that jackass has set em up!

Am I paranoid or can an employer just black ball your ass?
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They can give u a bad reference. If I left a job on bad terms I usually use somebody who I was freindly with, not the boss, per se. It has helped me ALOT!!

rachel3 said:

Shit I do that but I'm just wondering about this crazy jackasses!

I'm I'm I'm pissed...I think.

Oh, there's no question that a former employer can make life very difficult.

That's why it's beyond stupid to ever get into it with your boss. And to curse at someone - anyone - in the workplace? That is never okay. I don't care what they've done. It is unprofessional and declassé.

Eh?

AlienX2050 said:

Yes, but ONLY if it's consensual.

Genesia said:

Fuck that! Some jackasses need to be told a word or 2!
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It's the job market, not your employer.


Most large companies have HR policies forbidding employees from disclosing any information about a coworker to prospective employers over the phone involving performance, opinions, ect. etc. At my company I'm only allowed to verify the dates the employee works and their job duties. Other than that I'm not allowed to say anything else.

Companies don't want to face multiple lawsuits.

AlienX2050 said:

I see.

I hope you enjoy your future in menial, low-wage employment.

AlienX2050 said:

Sure do! While others will remain unemployed as a result.

Imago said:

This is very true. That's why I always lie about my income to perspective employers because they can't verify it.

Imago said:

See this is what my recruiter is telling me. I have several of them and they're saying that for every job there's like hundreds of resumes. They're telling me that they've never seen it this bad.

I'm up here joking with a friend and she's saying the same shit. God knows I could tell President Bush a word or 2 about this muthafucking War!
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Imago said:

That's how it was at the last job I had. You could just verify dates of employment and say what they did; you couldn't give out salary history or performance critiques. They were so worried about getting any lawsuit over it. I gave a couple former employees glowing reviews when they were warranted, but I stayed away from anything else.

Efan said:

However, this only applies if the prospective employer calls HR directly. If you provide the phone number for a reference, that person may not be familiar with the rules and divulge all kinds of info.

SCNDLS said:

True.

But my company has that covered. We have to take all these stupid online training courses and signoff on them--the rules for this are covered in those.

Essentially, claiming ignorance doesn't free guilt from us.

Ergo, like you said, it makes it uber easy to go to another company and pad the shit out of our resumes.

Imago said:

As a designer and developer of these online training courses I am HIGHLY offended.



(Not really, I just wanted to use the emoticon. )

SCNDLS said:

Yes, but I'm sure you're not responsible for the content right?

I mean, some of the review questions on ours cracks me up.


Stuff like.....

Sally is your client, and you are working on a project for her. She offers to buy you a 21 foot boat. Do you accept?

Imago said:

Actually, review questions are the designers responsibility as well. Alas, everyone's not as talented as I am. I'm always at the stuff that passes as good training.

AlienX2050 said:

Yes, especially in certain field you are in. For example, I work in the art (museum) world, which is a pretty closed circle. It is common knowledge which museums are fucked up/treat their employees like crap, which curators are , etc.


I only put down references who I know will give me stellar recommendations--I am planning on resigning in about 3 weeks because my supervisors are fucking idiots and there is no way in hell I would let anyone contact them.

Genesia said:

I cuss at work, as do most of my co-workers (at our desks--never in front of the public or other departments) when I am frustrated (like damn it, fucking hell, etc.), but I never curse anyone out. My supervisor, however, told another department manager to "Fuck off" in front of most of our department (including interns), and the other manager was told to apologize to her. And she had the audacity to tell me I was unprofessional in a meeting once b/c I interrupted her. Both of my managers are two of most unprofessional people I have ever worked for...I hope karma catches up with their asses soon.


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Most companies will give only the dates employed, title and salary. Too many legal issues could arise. A lot of recruiters have a form that you have to sign allowing them to ask your employer specific questions.

Just give the human resources number for a reference for that company if you need it.

Imago said:

When people call you to verify this information, do you hang up on them, too?

DevotedPuppy said:

Hey, I'm no prude. Two of my former careers were journalism and politics. Believe me, I can turn a room blue with the best of 'em.

There's a certain level of cussing that goes on in my current workplace, too. But it is non-directed cussing (ie, you might cuss things...but not people). And it never happens around clients.

I have worked for some incredibly abusive and power-mad people in my day - and never gotten abusive with any of them in return. It just doesn't pay.

Always be careful of the toes you step on - because they may be related to the ass you'll have to kiss tomorrow.

AlienX2050 said:

Wow. You cursed out your last employer and you're wondering why you're having a hard time finding another job. Really. Hmmmm.


That's why you don't do something as dumb as curse out an employer BEFORE you have another job already lined up.

Some of ya'll kill me.

AlienX2050 said:

in america it is techically not permitted for an employer to give a 'bad' review of an employee. they are restricted to confirming dates of employment and salary.

that being said, there are those who will get around the law and try to damage a former employee's reputation.

ask a pal of yours to call and ask for a reference, pretending to be a prospective employer.


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ButterscotchPimp said:

Thank you.

Genesia said:

AlienX2050 said:

Which is why WE'RE employed.

ButterscotchPimp said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

Yeah....uh huh!

What do you do when someone tries to talk to you any kind way? Huh!

AlienX2050 said:

As long as they're signing the checks and you don't have enough $$$ in the bank, you go through the proper channels to report the issues and start looking for a new job. Until then, you either tolerate it or quit. But you're supposed to take the high road and remain professional at all times. Success is the best revenge.