ButterscotchPimp said: JustErin said: So unfair to call a person who is attracted to certain looks 'shallow'. We all want to be with people we find physically attractive and there is nothing wrong with that...at all. It just seems that many people have the attitude that if a person isn't into the way they look...they are just "shallow". Is a guy that is only into women who are larger "shallow" because he doesn't find thin women attractive? Cuz all I ever seem to see is men who are into thin women being called 'shallow' not the other way around. Works both ways. Thanks, Erin. I've basically avoided commenting on this because of how similar threads that i've posted on ended up turning out. But that would be my point exactly. A guy that's considered a "chubby chaser" isn't shallow when he finds all thin women unattractive but a guy that isn't into big girls is. Not exactly fair, is it? People are into what they're into. But again, and i'm sure this is going to get taken the wrong way, the United States really isn't doing anyone any favors by this attitude of "being obese is okay". It's NOT. Just this week we saw where the FDA is ready to start prescribing cholesterol drugs to children as young as TWO YEARS OLD because we can't control what we feed our kids. There's a whole generation of obese people now because we as Americans eat crap, don't exercise and don't want anybody to call us out on our shit. FAT IS UNHEALTHY, PERIOD. AND WILL CAUSE YOU TO DIE SOONER. We need to stop this American ass attitude of "well we don't want to offend anyone". EVERYONE IS NOT GOING TO GET PAID TO BE ON A REALITY SHOW TO LOOSE WEIGHT. There's nothing cool about being overweight. There's nothing healthy about "jiggling". It's not offensive, it's unhealthy. It's an epidemic. And we need to start taking it SERIOUSLY. I think the main reason people tend to label men who prefer thin women as shallow is that (in my experience, anyway) they are the ones who tend to label the larger women they find unattractive as "gross," "cows" or what have you. It is not the preference that makes a person shallow. It is the denigration of what they don't find attractive that does. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Stymie said: JustErin said: So unfair to call a person who is attracted to certain looks 'shallow'. We all want to be with people we find physically attractive and there is nothing wrong with that...at all. It just seems that many people have the attitude that if a person isn't into the way they look...they are just "shallow". Is a guy that is only into women who are larger "shallow" because he doesn't find thin women attractive? Cuz all I ever seem to see is men who are into thin women being called 'shallow' not the other way around. Works both ways. At least I admit it! | |
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Genesia said: ButterscotchPimp said: Thanks, Erin. I've basically avoided commenting on this because of how similar threads that i've posted on ended up turning out. But that would be my point exactly. A guy that's considered a "chubby chaser" isn't shallow when he finds all thin women unattractive but a guy that isn't into big girls is. Not exactly fair, is it? People are into what they're into. But again, and i'm sure this is going to get taken the wrong way, the United States really isn't doing anyone any favors by this attitude of "being obese is okay". It's NOT. Just this week we saw where the FDA is ready to start prescribing cholesterol drugs to children as young as TWO YEARS OLD because we can't control what we feed our kids. There's a whole generation of obese people now because we as Americans eat crap, don't exercise and don't want anybody to call us out on our shit. FAT IS UNHEALTHY, PERIOD. AND WILL CAUSE YOU TO DIE SOONER. We need to stop this American ass attitude of "well we don't want to offend anyone". EVERYONE IS NOT GOING TO GET PAID TO BE ON A REALITY SHOW TO LOOSE WEIGHT. There's nothing cool about being overweight. There's nothing healthy about "jiggling". It's not offensive, it's unhealthy. It's an epidemic. And we need to start taking it SERIOUSLY. I think the main reason people tend to label men who prefer thin women as shallow is that (in my experience, anyway) they are the ones who tend to label the larger women they find unattractive as "gross," "cows" or what have you. It is not the preference that makes a person shallow. It is the denigration of what they don't find attractive that does. You mean like how some men (and many women) label thin women as "skinny bitches" or "sticks" and countless other derogatory names or talk about how they "need to eat a fucking sandwich"? Again, totally goes both ways. | |
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applekisses said:[quote]ButterscotchPimp said:
There's nothing cool about being overweight. There's nothing healthy about "jiggling". It's not offensive, it's unhealthy. It's an epidemic. And we need to start taking it SERIOUSLY.
Thanks, doctor.
When you review my medical records and those of many here who are "plus size" and healthy I'll credit that statement with more validity. It's just a fact that being overweight does not automatically equal being unhealthy. It's an unhealthy lifestyle that leads to being unhealthy. One does not automatically equal another. It's clear that YOU prefer being very thin and that's fine - but don't chastize others for being unhealthy unless you know the facts of their particular situation. I guarantee that my doctor would disagree with you. Now...back to the beauty... And here we go. The whining about "being overweight doesn't necessarily mean you're unhealthy". Except it kinda does. That's the main reason why this problem continues to get worse. Now YOU personally may not be unhealthy NOW, but study after study after study after study CONTINUES to show that even slightly "obese" shortens your life expectancy. It's not an IMAGE thing, it's a NOT DYING THING. [Edited 7/11/08 7:54am] http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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JustErin said: Genesia said: I think the main reason people tend to label men who prefer thin women as shallow is that (in my experience, anyway) they are the ones who tend to label the larger women they find unattractive as "gross," "cows" or what have you. It is not the preference that makes a person shallow. It is the denigration of what they don't find attractive that does. You mean like how some men (and many women) label thin women as "skinny bitches" or "sticks" and countless other derogatory names or talk about how they "need to eat a fucking sandwich"? Again, totally goes both ways. It absolutely does...and it's all about being mean, imo. Sure, I post pics of skeletons on Ace's "hot girl" threads because I have to tease him (it's more about giving him a hard time about SOMETHING than anything else ) but, I'd NEVER call anyone a "skinny bitch". That's just flat out mean. To be honest, and I've said this before, I think those who make fun of or are mean about those who are overweight vs. those who are mean to those who are thin are labeled as "shallow" more often because society tends to favor those who are thin - it's evident in the choices of top fashion models and actresses...or even through such TV shows as "America's Top Model" vs. "The Biggest Loser" | |
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ButterscotchPimp said:[quote] applekisses said: ButterscotchPimp said:
Thanks, doctor.
When you review my medical records and those of many here who are "plus size" and healthy I'll credit that statement with more validity. It's just a fact that being overweight does not automatically equal being unhealthy. It's an unhealthy lifestyle that leads to being unhealthy. One does not automatically equal another. It's clear that YOU prefer being very thin and that's fine - but don't chastize others for being unhealthy unless you know the facts of their particular situation. I guarantee that my doctor would disagree with you. Now...back to the beauty... And here we go. The whining about "being overweight doesn't necessarily mean you're unhealthy". Except it kinda does. That's the main reason why this problem continues to get worse. Now YOU personally may not be unhealthy NOW, but study after study after study after study CONTINUES to show that even slightly "obese" shortens your life expectancy. It's not an IMAGE thing, it's a NOT DYING THING. [Edited 7/11/08 7:54am] Oh, I'm not whining. When you get an M.D. or D.O. in Internal Medicine, come back and talk to me. Did you know there are also studies that show being UNDERWEIGHT shortens your lifespan even more? Plus, wasn't it you that was "grossed out" by the idea of making love to a pregnant woman because of her size? Is THAT a "dying" thing? CLEARLY for some it IS an image thing. [Edited 7/11/08 8:00am] | |
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applekisses said: JustErin said: You mean like how some men (and many women) label thin women as "skinny bitches" or "sticks" and countless other derogatory names or talk about how they "need to eat a fucking sandwich"? Again, totally goes both ways. It absolutely does...and it's all about being mean, imo. Sure, I post pics of skeletons on Ace's "hot girl" threads because I have to tease him (it's more about giving him a hard time about SOMETHING than anything else ) but, I'd NEVER call anyone a "skinny bitch". That's just flat out mean. To be honest, and I've said this before, I think those who make fun of or are mean about those who are overweight vs. those who are mean to those who are thin are labeled as "shallow" more often because society tends to favor those who are thin - it's evident in the choices of top fashion models and actresses...or even through such TV shows as "America's Top Model" vs. "The Biggest Loser" And yet in this very thread many have talked about how most men love women with curves. And all I ever seem to hear time and time again is that men do not want women to look like little boys. So I really don't get the whole media is to blame argument when it comes to reflecting what men find attractive in women. I dunno, it's all very confusing to me because people tend to change sides so that it best suits particular points they want to try and get across. | |
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