JustErin said:

I don't think I said anywhere that one was better than the other. I just pointed out that most women are not a size 0-2 regardless of which sizing metric is used. So I don't know why you're trynta make it seem like I said something I didn't say.

SCNDLS said:

Okay. I work for a clothing company. According to our size chart, Marilyn was an 8 in the bust, a 0 in the waist, and a 4 in the hip.

She might've been a 12 in an el cheapo, skimp on the fabric K-Mart size - but not in standard ready-to-wear.

SCNDLS said:

I didn't say you said it. I was saying it...simply adding onto what you said.

That's usually how a conversation takes place.

Genesia said:

I guess we should also take the measurements themselves with a grain of salt because women and I'm sure the movie studios lie about those stats just like basketball players add inches to their height and football players add lbs to their weight.

JustErin said:

Well, I guess that by quoting my post, it looked like you were inferring that I said one was better than the other and I just wanted it to be clear that I didn't say that.

Sowhat said:

I think it has to do with how a skinny model makes the clothes look and how they hang on skinny bodies. They're like human hangers lol...,The reality is that a subconscious message is sent out saying "Buy these clothes, and you'll look just as good as her!".

SCNDLS said:

Absolutely.

Genesia said:

BTW, an 8,0, and 4! Is that much of difference common cuz she sounds kinda flicted to me? This REALLY makes me think somebody made up those measurements.

SCNDLS said:

She is what we would call an "inverted triangle."

It's a good thing she had a studio making her clothes. And it's probably why you rarely saw her in pants.

Genesia said:

That interesting because I always thought she had fuller hips, fuller than her bust.

JustErin said:

Her hips might have been curvy, but the girdles of the day sort of gave everyone a pancake ass.

Genesia said:

Like I said, "flicted." BTW, I always thought Emme was really pretty, sexy, and smart. She took her modeling to the next level for real but I've always hated the term plus-size.
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Genesia said:

Ahhh...yes. Of course!

JustErin said:

Look at Elizabeth Taylor in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof (in the pencil skirt she has one early in the film). Total pancake.

Genesia said:

My favorite Liz movie, but yeah my girl was suffering from a SEVERE case of noassatol. But what's amazing is the size of her waist cuz she'd just dropped baby number three weeks before filming began THEN her husband died in plane crash.

machaela!!

i love my body and that's the only one i have to worry about. of course some days i don't but generally when i look in the mirror i like the curve from my back to my ass... i like my shoulders and i like the way my waist gives way to my hips. i'd be lost without my breasts. i like being more mature and realizing that there are men out there that will appreciate my body too. i just need to get in a belly dancing class already and shimmy away some of my stomach

SCNDLS said:

Oh, the wonder of a cast iron girdle.

Genesia said:

No wonder all them chicks were fainting back in the day. Well, whatever it takes, where can I get me one of them????

SCNDLS said:

Are you serious? Cuz I can tell you...

Genesia said:

Hell to tha yeah! My favorite scene in Steel Magnolias is when Dolly Parton and Olympia Dukakis are watching the mayor's wife shake her ass on the dance floor and Olympia says it looks like two pigs fightin' under a blanket. Then Dolly says she hasn't left the house without lycra on her thighs since she was 13.

Maybe it's a cultural thing but I grew up being told that if you're dressed up you should wear at least a slip but usually a girdle. I haven't worn slips in ages but I don't like to jiggle or have rolls under my clothes so I usually wear some kind of foundation garment, even when I was at my smallest. When they stopped making my favorite ones years ago I bought every one I could find regardless of size.

emm said:

Beautiful emm
yeah today was one of those "some days" I am about over it

I know more men that appreciate fuller women then not and my husband loves me curves and all so

If a size 14 means to some I am a fat ass then that's okay we are all allowed our opinions

I am very healthy and very strong and my body has done incredible things and taken me incredible places

Byron said:

You are right just like with most advertising...drink this or eat this or use this product and you will look just like/be just treated like these amazing looking people in the comercial/ad.

But I just don't know why anyone would want to look like some of those sickly-looking freakishly thin models.

Mach said:

That's the right attitude cuz I'm sure there are many people who don't have healthy, whole bodies that would trade places with you. I have a niece with cerebral palsy who has never walked and it drives me nuts to hear able-bodied people whine about not being able to fit into a dress.

SCNDLS said:

So true

doesn't plus size mean normal sized which equals harder for designers to work because it isn't a straight line?

Mach said:

Own it, girl

I get those days too...I think we all do. That's why it's so important to remember everything you just said.

applekisses said:

I have friends in the size 6 -10 range that have their days as well

"i'm so fat - if I could just drop a size ... if my boobs were bigger if my lips were fuller if my hair was longer if if if

ehuffnsd said:

I dunno but I am telling you as a sewer type woman it isnt THAT hard to sew curves

Sowhat said:

At least 50% of the blame should go to men lol ...give your average American male a choice between two women who are identical in personality, facial features and intelligence, but one is overweight and one is underweight, the underweight one will probably be picked more times than not. Women know this, they see it...they're not stupid. So they start thinking their weight is a hindrance. Add onto that the message sent out constantly by the media (like you said) that "Life will be better if you are thinner!", and it's no real surprise, unfortunately. That's one of the reasons, anyway.

In fact, I've found most women will NEVER believe that I really don't care about things like weight or height or whatever, even if I'm not talking about THEM lol...they just refuse to believe a man can be more attracted to a woman's personality, character, sense of humor, etc. than to her body.

Mach said:

Well, to be fair, there's a difference between designing and manufacturing lol ...