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Hey, America-bashers.... that means you, crackpot! http://www.nwbm.org/share...romcan.htm
it's decades old, but truer than ever. America: The Good Neighbor Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon -! not once, but several times - and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those." Stand proud! | |
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any kind of government keeps peiople from becoming one with god. not to mention one with each other. when we put up extra borders, like what government we belong too, we make it harder for us to unite as one. not to mention captialism, wow is that system a blow to idealism. captilism works because it utilizes greed, and makes people compete against each other, insteasd of all working together. I could go on, but why?
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korovyov said: any kind of government keeps peiople from becoming one with god. not to mention one with each other. when we put up extra borders, like what government we belong too, we make it harder for us to unite as one. not to mention captialism, wow is that system a blow to idealism. captilism works because it utilizes greed, and makes people compete against each other, insteasd of all working together. I could go on, but why?
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AaronForever said: http://www.nwbm.org/shared/america/tribute/canada/trib_fromcan.htm
it's decades old, but truer than ever. Its pretty badly researched and simple propaganda. I will now show you why. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. With the capitalist Germany (nothing wrong with that) America has createt its largest trading partner worldwide, making billions of dollars profit margins every day. Consider the rebuild-help a good and smart investment. But Germany as paid off what they owe you very well... Do you have compensated the black people for century-long exploitation? When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. No humanitarian motives there. France needed to be stablelized, because its a strong partner of America in Europe. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. I dont know about other countries, but I know that Germany is giving a huge profit cut for humanitarian causes. When America "helps" with military forces, Germany usually helps with medical aid and education. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. The Marshall plan saw that Germany would be the battle ground of World War III which was very possible to happen back then. Nuclear weapons were stockpiled in my neighbourhood as a part of that plan. America pressured Germany to remilitarize in the early 1950's so we'd be ready to go to war with them against russia. No humanitarian causes again. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Germany's airlines are mainly equipted with Airbus-planes, a german/french corporation. In three years the Airbus 380 will go into production, the largest passenger plane in the world, a lot larger than the Boeing 747. 100 of those planes have already been ordered. Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon -! not once, but several times - and safely home again. Again this guy needs to read some books. Germans have build the first rockets in the 1940s -- the V2. Some were even manned. It was Wernher von Braun, Hitler's rocket engineer, who started Nasa and brought the first Americans to the moon. He was backe up by his german experts. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. so what? is that any relevant? When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. Again an illusion. The Intercity Express by Siemens Germany is the fastest and most modern train in the world and its been ordered by some south-eastern states of the US already. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. which was... in 1907? how did logistics work back then? In Germany we had the flood of the Millenium this past August. No help from the US. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those." They wont get out of the next one. Because they have been kicking people around too much. Aaarom, I recommend you check your sources before you post dumb shit like this one. You are making it too easy for me to show off your ignorance.Maybe you should sign up for the Marines. They need people with IQ 90 or lower. Stand proud! "Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany"  | |
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Oh gosh yes, it was awfully kind of the USA to put so much money into rebuilding Japan after the war! It didn't help the hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians that were killed at Nagasaki and Hiroshima unfortunately, but we'll cheerfully disregard that unpleasant part of history shall we 
If your point is that America has achieved some great things and has done some great things, you'll get no argument from me! If you think however that the American government is above reproach, and that it hasn't some truly appalling things under the umbrella of "foreign policy" and that "bashing" and criticising it is wrong, that's clearly rubbish. | |
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ian said: Oh gosh yes, it was awfully kind of the USA to put so much money into rebuilding Japan after the war! It didn't help the hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians that were killed at Nagasaki and Hiroshima unfortunately, but we'll cheerfully disregard that unpleasant part of history shall we
If your point is that America has achieved some great things and has done some great things, you'll get no argument from me! If you think however that the American government is above reproach, and that it hasn't some truly appalling things under the umbrella of "foreign policy" and that "bashing" and criticising it is wrong, that's clearly rubbish. Way to go, Ian, that's two comments in a row from you today that I find myself in complete agreement with. Wow. I must be suffering from that disease ("It's called stupid"...) . "You don't frighten us, English pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person." | |
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giotto said: ian said: Oh gosh yes, it was awfully kind of the USA to put so much money into rebuilding Japan after the war! It didn't help the hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians that were killed at Nagasaki and Hiroshima unfortunately, but we'll cheerfully disregard that unpleasant part of history shall we
If your point is that America has achieved some great things and has done some great things, you'll get no argument from me! If you think however that the American government is above reproach, and that it hasn't some truly appalling things under the umbrella of "foreign policy" and that "bashing" and criticising it is wrong, that's clearly rubbish. Way to go, Ian, that's two comments in a row from you today that I find myself in complete agreement with. Wow. I must be suffering from that disease ("It's called stupid"...) . Woah that sounds serious! Get this man to a doctor | |
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ian said: Oh gosh yes, it was awfully kind of the USA to put so much money into rebuilding Japan after the war! It didn't help the hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians that were killed at Nagasaki and Hiroshima unfortunately, but we'll cheerfully disregard that unpleasant part of history shall we
.hey, they struck first. dragged us into that war. don't start none, won't be none. when did the Japanese come over and rebuild Pearl Harbor for us? | |
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AaronForever said: ian said: Oh gosh yes, it was awfully kind of the USA to put so much money into rebuilding Japan after the war! It didn't help the hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians that were killed at Nagasaki and Hiroshima unfortunately, but we'll cheerfully disregard that unpleasant part of history shall we
.hey, they struck first. dragged us into that war. don't start none, won't be none. when did the Japanese come over and rebuild Pearl Harbor for us? What? And have pearl Harbor looking like Neo-Tokyo??? . "You don't frighten us, English pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person." | |
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AaronForever said: ian said: Oh gosh yes, it was awfully kind of the USA to put so much money into rebuilding Japan after the war! It didn't help the hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians that were killed at Nagasaki and Hiroshima unfortunately, but we'll cheerfully disregard that unpleasant part of history shall we
.hey, they struck first. dragged us into that war. don't start none, won't be none. when did the Japanese come over and rebuild Pearl Harbor for us? See Aaron, you dont even know your own country's history. According to the autobiography of US war minister Stimson Pearl Harbour was a set-up. In order to convince the American people to support another war against Germany and Japan. Your country has provocted Japan by various sanctions (similar to those against Iraq) to attack Pearl Harbour. The Navy base was equipped with junk war vessels... no big loss. Navy command was informed about the attack a few days prior to it. In the autobiography by Winston Churchill you can read about how Roosevelt showed his relief towards the british leader right after the attack to finally have a reason to go to war. America became the number one world power thanks to WWII. 3000 dead seaman seemed a price fair enough to pay for such a status. They teach that reality in history classes around the world --- except in your country. Same place where they still teach you that Columbo has discovered America. Get a grip dude before you speak up. You are making a fool outta yourself. "Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" | |
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btw Aaron, why were you calling me crack-pot before? didnt you know that Crack is an american invention? shouldnt you be proud of that too? "Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" | |
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soulpower said: AaronForever said: ian said: Oh gosh yes, it was awfully kind of the USA to put so much money into rebuilding Japan after the war! It didn't help the hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians that were killed at Nagasaki and Hiroshima unfortunately, but we'll cheerfully disregard that unpleasant part of history shall we
.hey, they struck first. dragged us into that war. don't start none, won't be none. when did the Japanese come over and rebuild Pearl Harbor for us? See Aaron, you dont even know your own country's history. According to the autobiography of US war minister Stimson Pearl Harbour was a set-up. In order to convince the American people to support another war against Germany and Japan. Your country has provocted Japan by various sanctions (similar to those against Iraq) to attack Pearl Harbour. The Navy base was equipped with junk war vessels... no big loss. Navy command was informed about the attack a few days prior to it. In the autobiography by Winston Churchill you can read about how Roosevelt showed his relief towards the british leader right after the attack to finally have a reason to go to war. America became the number one world power thanks to WWII. 3000 dead seaman seemed a price fair enough to pay for such a status. They teach that reality in history classes around the world --- except in your country. Same place where they still teach you that Columbo has discovered America. Get a grip dude before you speak up. You are making a fool outta yourself. just what i'd expect a crackpot to say. i suppose you believe there was no moon landing either. but if this is the "reality" that they're teaching you in your schools, i can no longer hold you accountable for being such a lunatic conspiracy theorist. not that i'm going to stop calling you a crackpot. [This message was edited Sat Nov 2 12:53:07 PST 2002 by AaronForever] | |
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soulpower said: btw Aaron, why were you calling me crack-pot before? didnt you know that Crack is an american invention? shouldnt you be proud of that too?
look up the word crackpot, brain stem. in fact, look up brain stem too. | |
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AaronForever said: ian said: Oh gosh yes, it was awfully kind of the USA to put so much money into rebuilding Japan after the war! It didn't help the hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians that were killed at Nagasaki and Hiroshima unfortunately, but we'll cheerfully disregard that unpleasant part of history shall we
.hey, they struck first. dragged us into that war. don't start none, won't be none. when did the Japanese come over and rebuild Pearl Harbor for us? Pearl Harbour was an attack on a military target - the Pacific naval fleet. You can't even begin to compare that to the attrocities of Hiroshima and and Nagasaki. Come off it Aaron, you're smarter than that and you know that thing you posted was just ill-conceived propaganda rubbish, intended to stir up an argument  Calling someone a "crackpot" is a dead giveaway
America has indeed achieved some truly great things, there is no doubt about that. It's done some really appalling things too. So has every government in the world. Spare us the propaganda please ... | |
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ian said: Pearl Harbour was an attack on a military target - the Pacific naval fleet.
You can't even begin to compare that to the attrocities of Hiroshima and and Nagasaki. Agreed. A million times over. I mean, like, where is the sun? | |
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ian said: AaronForever said: ian said: Oh gosh yes, it was awfully kind of the USA to put so much money into rebuilding Japan after the war! It didn't help the hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians that were killed at Nagasaki and Hiroshima unfortunately, but we'll cheerfully disregard that unpleasant part of history shall we
.hey, they struck first. dragged us into that war. don't start none, won't be none. when did the Japanese come over and rebuild Pearl Harbor for us? Pearl Harbour was an attack on a military target - the Pacific naval fleet. You can't even begin to compare that to the attrocities of Hiroshima and and Nagasaki. sure I can. in fact, I just did don't wanna get your ass kicked, don't start a war with America. simple as that. | |
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AaronForever said: ian said: AaronForever said: ian said: Oh gosh yes, it was awfully kind of the USA to put so much money into rebuilding Japan after the war! It didn't help the hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians that were killed at Nagasaki and Hiroshima unfortunately, but we'll cheerfully disregard that unpleasant part of history shall we
.hey, they struck first. dragged us into that war. don't start none, won't be none. when did the Japanese come over and rebuild Pearl Harbor for us? Pearl Harbour was an attack on a military target - the Pacific naval fleet. You can't even begin to compare that to the attrocities of Hiroshima and and Nagasaki. sure I can. in fact, I just did don't wanna get your ass kicked, don't start a war with America. simple as that.Way to make a point man! You're right, America is the big hero of the world, go USA 
Fuck with Uncle Sam and we'll murder your innocent civilians including thousands of women and children. Don't think we won't. I'm sure that's what you were trying to get across. The land of the free and home of the brave and all that. | |
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ian said: AaronForever said: ian said: AaronForever said: ian said: Oh gosh yes, it was awfully kind of the USA to put so much money into rebuilding Japan after the war! It didn't help the hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians that were killed at Nagasaki and Hiroshima unfortunately, but we'll cheerfully disregard that unpleasant part of history shall we
.hey, they struck first. dragged us into that war. don't start none, won't be none. when did the Japanese come over and rebuild Pearl Harbor for us? Pearl Harbour was an attack on a military target - the Pacific naval fleet. You can't even begin to compare that to the attrocities of Hiroshima and and Nagasaki. sure I can. in fact, I just did don't wanna get your ass kicked, don't start a war with America. simple as that.Way to make a point man! You're right, America is the big hero of the world, go USA
Fuck with Uncle Sam and we'll murder your innocent civilians including thousands of women and children. Don't think we won't. I'm sure that's what you were trying to get across. The land of the free and home of the brave and all that. war's ugly. peace is uglier. you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. or world peace without nuking a few countries. just ask iraq, they'll tell you in a few months' time  | |
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AaronForever said: ian said: AaronForever said: ian said: AaronForever said: ian said: Oh gosh yes, it was awfully kind of the USA to put so much money into rebuilding Japan after the war! It didn't help the hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians that were killed at Nagasaki and Hiroshima unfortunately, but we'll cheerfully disregard that unpleasant part of history shall we
.hey, they struck first. dragged us into that war. don't start none, won't be none. when did the Japanese come over and rebuild Pearl Harbor for us? Pearl Harbour was an attack on a military target - the Pacific naval fleet. You can't even begin to compare that to the attrocities of Hiroshima and and Nagasaki. sure I can. in fact, I just did don't wanna get your ass kicked, don't start a war with America. simple as that.Way to make a point man! You're right, America is the big hero of the world, go USA
Fuck with Uncle Sam and we'll murder your innocent civilians including thousands of women and children. Don't think we won't. I'm sure that's what you were trying to get across. The land of the free and home of the brave and all that. war's ugly. peace is uglier. you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. or world peace without nuking a few countries. just ask iraq, they'll tell you in a few months' time USA : Nuking for Peace
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soulpower said: AaronForever said: ian said: Oh gosh yes, it was awfully kind of the USA to put so much money into rebuilding Japan after the war! It didn't help the hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians that were killed at Nagasaki and Hiroshima unfortunately, but we'll cheerfully disregard that unpleasant part of history shall we
.hey, they struck first. dragged us into that war. don't start none, won't be none. when did the Japanese come over and rebuild Pearl Harbor for us? See Aaron, you dont even know your own country's history. According to the autobiography of US war minister Stimson Pearl Harbour was a set-up. In order to convince the American people to support another war against Germany and Japan. Your country has provocted Japan by various sanctions (similar to those against Iraq) to attack Pearl Harbour. The Navy base was equipped with junk war vessels... no big loss. Navy command was informed about the attack a few days prior to it. In the autobiography by Winston Churchill you can read about how Roosevelt showed his relief towards the british leader right after the attack to finally have a reason to go to war. America became the number one world power thanks to WWII. 3000 dead seaman seemed a price fair enough to pay for such a status. They teach that reality in history classes around the world --- except in your country. Same place where they still teach you that Columbo has discovered America. Get a grip dude before you speak up. You are making a fool outta yourself. Soulpower..you're a trip! you always seem to make these statements as though they are gospel.. so poor little Japan was innocent in this whole war thing? you come across like EVERYTHING is the fault of the US.. i suppose Hitler was their fault in an indirect way too huh?
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Myth 10 More U.S. Aid Will Help the Hungry Reality: Most U.S. aid works directly against the hungry. Foreign aid can only reinforce, not change, the status quo. Where governments answer only to elites, our aid not only fails to reach hungry people, it shores up the very forces working against them. Our aid is used to impose free trade and free market policies, to promote exports at the expense of food production, and to provide the armaments that repressive governments use to stay in power. Even emergency, or humanitarian aid, which makes up only five percent of the total, often ends up enriching American grain companies while failing to reach the hungry, and it can dangerously undercut local food production in the recipient country. It would be better to use our foreign aid budget for unconditional debt relief, as it is the foreign debt burden that forces most Third World countries to cut back on basic health, education and anti-poverty programs. | |
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Does EVERYTHING America does have to be a conspiracy? A country can't simply defend itself when someone attacks? There has to be 650 ulterior motives behind it, and more plot twists than a bad episode of Law & Order?
I don't have the luxury of travelling to every part of the world and experiencing every government, but neither do most other people on here. America is a flourishing country, you either love it or despise it. But at some point, you have to get over it. There's certainly flaws in its past, but I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. | |
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If u r happy living in the USA, than be happy living in the USA... just don't blind yourself or claim that the USA is not the most oppressive country in the world in regard to how we treat other countries, how we handle world trade, and how we consume every conceivable goods in the world in AN EXCESSIVE MANNER excluding the majority of the world of decent living in exchange 4 our own satisfactions... The American media just feeds and brain washes us with all this "America the Great" promotion, but if u pick up a sociology book, or really investigate how we handle business you would TRULY see the dishonesty in how we handle business situations.do u really think USA became so powerful by being sweet and kind and "helping" others... We r ruthless business men/women. we didn't get this way by playing "nice"... [This message was edited Sat Nov 2 22:40:13 PST 2002 by RaneStarr] | |
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AaronForever said: don't wanna get your ass kicked, don't start a war with America. simple as that.
Doesnt work that easy. Its no guarantee. Cuz America attacks countries which have never attacked the US. Name me one single country which indeed did attack America since 1945. One single country! "Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" | |
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MrBliss said: Soulpower..you're a trip! you always seem to make these statements as though they are gospel.. so poor little Japan was innocent in this whole war thing? you come across like EVERYTHING is the fault of the US.. i suppose Hitler was their fault in an indirect way too huh?
bro, you not its bullshit what you have just said. Until 1945 Japan was always one of the most brutal empericalistic countries. Just look at the mess they have caused in China in the 1920s. So they are far from innocent, and I have never said they were. And you know that. But its a fact that the US declared sanctions against Japan to cut of their basic needs. Japan was stupid enough to give the US a chance to enter the war. That doesnt make one innocent, and it sure does not make the US an innocent victim. And spare me the Hitler issue bro After all it was Germans who have elected him."Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" | |
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AaronForever said: soulpower said: AaronForever said: ian said: Oh gosh yes, it was awfully kind of the USA to put so much money into rebuilding Japan after the war! It didn't help the hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians that were killed at Nagasaki and Hiroshima unfortunately, but we'll cheerfully disregard that unpleasant part of history shall we
.hey, they struck first. dragged us into that war. don't start none, won't be none. when did the Japanese come over and rebuild Pearl Harbor for us? See Aaron, you dont even know your own country's history. According to the autobiography of US war minister Stimson Pearl Harbour was a set-up. In order to convince the American people to support another war against Germany and Japan. Your country has provocted Japan by various sanctions (similar to those against Iraq) to attack Pearl Harbour. The Navy base was equipped with junk war vessels... no big loss. Navy command was informed about the attack a few days prior to it. In the autobiography by Winston Churchill you can read about how Roosevelt showed his relief towards the british leader right after the attack to finally have a reason to go to war. America became the number one world power thanks to WWII. 3000 dead seaman seemed a price fair enough to pay for such a status. They teach that reality in history classes around the world --- except in your country. Same place where they still teach you that Columbo has discovered America. Get a grip dude before you speak up. You are making a fool outta yourself. just what i'd expect a crackpot to say. i suppose you believe there was no moon landing either. but if this is the "reality" that they're teaching you in your schools, i can no longer hold you accountable for being such a lunatic conspiracy theorist. not that i'm going to stop calling you a crackpot. [This message was edited Sat Nov 2 12:53:07 PST 2002 by AaronForever] Aaron, you dont even know enough in order to comment my post without trying to insult me. Being called crackpot by you is an honor indeed. Yeah they are teaching us a different reality in schools over here. The reality about the first europeans coming to America in the 9th century setting up colonies there (500 years before your columbo reality). Realities about great native american civilizations in the middles ages. And realities about Pearl Harbour. Btw, that reality, which you do not believe in, has been confirmend by your war minister of that time as well as Churchill. Are these people crackpots too? "Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" | |
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AaronForever said: war's ugly. peace is uglier. you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. or world peace without nuking a few countries. just ask iraq, they'll tell you in a few months' time  Man, this is the most shilly shit I have read here in a long time. Your ignorance can only be topped by Oceana. To say it in your egg-realted terms: Your brain has been scrambled.
btw its funny that the worst warmongers, like yourself, are carefully watching America's humanitarian wars from a safe distance... why dont you sign up for uncle sam so you can spread the beauty of your country all over the world? "Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" | |
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soulpower said: MrBliss said: Soulpower..you're a trip! you always seem to make these statements as though they are gospel.. so poor little Japan was innocent in this whole war thing? you come across like EVERYTHING is the fault of the US.. i suppose Hitler was their fault in an indirect way too huh?
bro, you not its bullshit what you have just said. Until 1945 Japan was always one of the most brutal empericalistic countries. Just look at the mess they have caused in China in the 1920s. So they are far from innocent, and I have never said they were. And you know that. But its a fact that the US declared sanctions against Japan to cut of their basic needs. Japan was stupid enough to give the US a chance to enter the war. That doesnt make one innocent, and it sure does not make the US an innocent victim. And spare me the Hitler issue bro After all it was Germans who have elected him.glad to hear you feel that way
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soulpower said: AaronForever said: war's ugly. peace is uglier. you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. or world peace without nuking a few countries. just ask iraq, they'll tell you in a few months' time Man, this is the most shilly shit I have read here in a long time. Your ignorance can only be topped by Oceana. To say it in your egg-realted terms: Your brain has been scrambled.
btw its funny that the worst warmongers, like yourself, are carefully watching America's humanitarian wars from a safe distance... why dont you sign up for uncle sam so you can spread the beauty of your country all over the world? it's funnier when peaceniks are also so far away from wars and escalating situations saying that "everything's fine" and just sit back and want to do nothing. | |
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soulpower said: AaronForever said: soulpower said: AaronForever said: ian said: Oh gosh yes, it was awfully kind of the USA to put so much money into rebuilding Japan after the war! It didn't help the hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians that were killed at Nagasaki and Hiroshima unfortunately, but we'll cheerfully disregard that unpleasant part of history shall we
.hey, they struck first. dragged us into that war. don't start none, won't be none. when did the Japanese come over and rebuild Pearl Harbor for us? See Aaron, you dont even know your own country's history. According to the autobiography of US war minister Stimson Pearl Harbour was a set-up. In order to convince the American people to support another war against Germany and Japan. Your country has provocted Japan by various sanctions (similar to those against Iraq) to attack Pearl Harbour. The Navy base was equipped with junk war vessels... no big loss. Navy command was informed about the attack a few days prior to it. In the autobiography by Winston Churchill you can read about how Roosevelt showed his relief towards the british leader right after the attack to finally have a reason to go to war. America became the number one world power thanks to WWII. 3000 dead seaman seemed a price fair enough to pay for such a status. They teach that reality in history classes around the world --- except in your country. Same place where they still teach you that Columbo has discovered America. Get a grip dude before you speak up. You are making a fool outta yourself. just what i'd expect a crackpot to say. i suppose you believe there was no moon landing either. but if this is the "reality" that they're teaching you in your schools, i can no longer hold you accountable for being such a lunatic conspiracy theorist. not that i'm going to stop calling you a crackpot. [This message was edited Sat Nov 2 12:53:07 PST 2002 by AaronForever] Aaron, you dont even know enough in order to comment my post without trying to insult me. Being called crackpot by you is an honor indeed. I know plenty. I insult you anyway. It's fun!
Yeah they are teaching us a different reality in schools over here. The reality about the first europeans coming to America in the 9th century setting up colonies there (500 years before your columbo reality). Realities about great native american civilizations in the middles ages.
did they teach you about the reality of YOUR european countries and why people wanted to get the fuck out in the first place? And realities about Pearl Harbour. Btw, that reality, which you do not believe in, has been confirmend by your war minister of that time as well as Churchill. Are these people crackpots too?
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