Mars23 said:

The question is, is sex offensive for kids?
The gay-parades tends to be to much about sex and less about love.

Funkaren said:

i'm sorry i've attended many gay prides in my life, up to 6 a year some years. and i have yet to see full on public sex at one. maybe some making out but all sex is kept out of the public eye. and i've been to LA, SD, LB, PS, LV and SF prides. so please enlighten me to which prides have sex in them because I'm so there!

Funkaren said:

Where do you people get this stuff?

ehuffnsd said:

What i ment was nudity, never seen an american gay-pride, but in europe theres a lot of nudity, didnt say if it was a good or bad thing though( i would rather expose my children to nudity the violence, havent made up my mind if its good or bad to expose children to sex and nudity)

Funkaren said:

Nudity DOES NOT EQUAL sex. case in point. i have a friend, where i go over to his house we watch some tv, get naked, and fall asleep. than i wake up put on my clothes and go to work. no sex.

ehuffnsd said:

maybe not sexual, but strange nonetheless.

Where does getting naked fall in the evening? What I mean is, is it when the evening is getting crazy, or are you guys just nudists?

NDRU said:

we both like to sleep in the nude, and it's nice to be able to sleep next to someone.

NDRU said:[quote]

ehuffnsd said:

No slut Pride.

Sounds like you are referring to either Folsom Street Fair or Dore Alley.
Both are definitely adult only.

SUPRMAN said:[quote]

NDRU said:

no there is a slut pride or something.

on saturday last year before folsom there was a slut pride downtown in front of city hall. i walked by them setting it up while i was on my way to a Sister event. it was mostly straight people. i know what Folsom and Up Your Alley are.

ehuffnsd said:

ah, gotcha. That's not as weird as it read initially.

And no sex at all? Never?

NDRU said:

i think we've had sex 4 times in 2 years. we've talked about having sex again but nothing has happened.

NDRU said:

Which is based on nothing really. I think that once we conform to those fears then we are back to square one.

superspaceboy said:

NDRU said:

Or any of the multitude of Parades that happen at Mardi Gras. It not the floats that are offensive it's the people taking off their clothes to get said trinket being offered from the float.

ehuffnsd said:

There is?

Most pride parades are, to me, about as provocative as a music video. If you replaced all the participants with hot chicks in bikinis, it would barely raise an eyebrow.

There seems to be an attitude among some people who think they're comfortable with gay people that they're fine with gay people as long as they don't have to think about our icky sex lives. But we don't just want the right to love someone; our sex lives are part of the deal too. I know some people who love the gays as long as we're making them laugh but as soon as the messiness of our whole personaes enters the picture, it makes them uncomfortable. Personally, I think that's more homophobic than what the religious right believes. At least I know where I stand with them. The blurry distinctions that some so-called progressives make are more offensive to me. (I'm not directing this at anybody here; I just thought it worth noting in the context of this conversation.)

I'm not saying what anyone should or shouldn't do. A parade is meant to be festive & over the top. A bunch of gay people walking reservedly down the street in their work clothes wouldn't be much fun, certainly.

But I still think that it may confirm some folks' worst fears.[/quote]

Maybe the heteros should need a parade to, they need to know how to have fun to uyou know.

Efan said:

Keep in mind that not all gay-people wants to be sexuall-sluts, and on the other hand not all heteros wants to be cassual(like P for example)

superspaceboy said:

True, I don't think it's necessarily the parades themselves. If this woman at the beginning of the thread was at the parade, she probably didn't have a problem with it. But like Mardi Gras, it can become a bit "adult," and quickly! They're public events, but they are not always family friendly.

Your comment about Hooters is well founded. They're offering themselves as a family restaurant, but they're basically a strip club. I wouldn't bring my daughter there.

The issue I have with the Pride Parade is that it's a little like having Hooters girls at a women's rights parade. I wouldn't care personally, but don't know if it helps the cause.
[Edited 6/30/08 16:12pm]

Funkaren said:

it's called Mardi Gras or Spring Break or eevnt here called Over the Line and countless of other events that happen all across the world that go unnoticed or ignored or cheered on.
[Edited 6/30/08 16:06pm]

superspaceboy said:

I do understand. The parade is about being free, about being open. Perhaps it is good because it puts the issue in peoples' minds, faces, and in a fun way.

I only raise the question out of honesty.

NDRU said:

And it's a valid one that even the gay community asks as well.

NDRU said:

why should we have to worry about others thoughts about us. people should mind their own business.

Funkaren said:

oddly, i find that many people i know who are in love consequently have sex with each other.

So you were in NYC or some other major metropolitan area and thought that speaking in Spanish would prevent other people from understanding you?




omg.

JasmineFire said:

I'm not going to answer the question or get involved in whatever the discussion is because I'm sure it'll be moved to P&R, but I just wanted to say that I went to my first Pride parade this weekend. LOVED IT! It felt good.

ehuffnsd said:

My oldest brother does that. He's black, but knows Spanish fluently.

I wouldn't care if it offends kids or not, they can't vote or hold down jobs so they're opinions shouldn't even count. They should just shut up and keep they're mouths shut!
[Edited 7/1/08 3:01am]