Xcalibre said:

Because you should never flush the toilet unless the LID is down too. Water droplets fly for 6 feet!!

Anxiety said:

Yeah, they seem like big germ blankets and they always make me wonder, When was this thing last washed?

Bev!

i will put the toilet seat up.


but i will never put the toilet seat down, unless I need to put it down to use it.

why should it be my responsibility to put the toilet seat down in case someone else needs to use it? i'm responsible for putting it up when i need to use it. they can do the same for themselves.

it really irks the hell out of me when women complain about men not putting the seat back down. why is it our responsibility to make sure the toilet is squared away for you? you don't do the same for us by putting it back up. and in the households where i've lived that this has been a complaint, the number of men has always outweighed the number of women.

Xcalibre said:

I agree with the bolded part of your rant

I've never understood womens position on this issue. As a man, when I have to sit to 'handle some business" I never just sit without looking first. Who in the hell just plopps down blindly on a toilet? Shouldnt you always look first? In my opinion, if you end up sitting in the toilet cause the seat was up its your own fault because you should have looked 1st.

unkemptpueblo said:

I think people who don't put the lid down (men or women) are gross!! I guess some people like thier piss flying everywhere!

JustErin said:

Why is it gross? Why arent people who dont put the lid up gross?

unkemptpueblo said:

Because as was said several times in this thread, when you flush your junk down the water splashes up. This is what the lid is for.

You close it when you flush, you lift when you need to use it. It's an easy concept to understand.

unkemptpueblo said:

Because as was said several times in this thread, when you flush your junk down the water splashes up. This is what the lid is for.

You close it when you flush, you lift when you need to use it. It's an easy concept to understand.

Dear Cecil:

I read somewhere years ago that when you flush the toilet with the lid open, a plume of contaminated water droplets is ejected into the air and lands on everything in the bathroom, including (yuck) your toothbrush. Women I mention this to nod knowingly, but among men it is met with scorn, the common view being that this is another female scare story intended to "get us to put the top down." Knowing your ability to rise above petty considerations of gender, I turn to you. --Katie Wolf, Toledo, Ohio

Dear Katie:

Opinions on this topic do seem to break down along male-female lines. "Toilet water on your toothbrush!" my assistant Jane howled. "That's gross! That's disgusting!" "Yeah," said Little Ed, "it's got Straight Dope written all over it."

You remembered right about toilet plume, although I think toilet "aerosol" is probably the more accurate term. No doubt you saw something about Charles Gerba, a professor at the University of Arizona who specializes in environmental microbiology. For those of you with a romanticized picture of the academic life, I should tell you this means he spends a lot of time crawling around public toilets and has had the cops called on him twice.

In 1975 Professor Gerba published a scientific article describing the little-known phenomenon of bacterial and viral aerosols due to toilet flushing. The more you learn about it, the scarier it sounds. According to Gerba, close-up photos of the germy ejecta look like "Baghdad at night during a U.S. air attack." The article ominously depicts a "floor plan of experimental bathroom with location of gauze pads for viral fallout experiments." A lot of virus fell on those gauze pads, Gerba found, and a lot of bacteria too. In fact, significant quantities of microbes floated around the bathroom for at least two hours after each flush.

As Professor Gerba's research would later determine, however, the bathroom was hardly the most dangerous part of the house, microbe-wise. The real pesthole: the kitchen sponge or dishcloth, where fecal coliform bacteria from raw meat and such could fester in a damp, nurturing (for a germ) environment. Next came the kitchen sink, the bathroom sink, and the kitchen faucet handle. The toilet seat was the least contaminated of 15 household locales studied. "If an alien came from space and studied the bacterial counts," the professor says, "he probably would conclude he should wash his hands in your toilet and crap in your sink."

Talk with this guy for a few minutes and you realize that everything people think they know about household cleanliness is wrong. You think a guy's apartment is bound to be germier than a woman's? Uh-uh. Single men tended to have lower bacteria counts, since they never cleaned and thus didn't spread the crud around. (Remember this, lads, it may be useful ammunition someday.) Women's public restrooms contained twice as much fecal bacteria as men's, probably because the women were accompanied by sanitary napkins, grimy small children, and babies in need of a change.

Another thing. You think maybe the laundry room is germ free? Feh. The place is a sty due to fecal matter on underwear. Despite what some believe, however, doorknobs and handles in public restrooms are relatively clean.

Perhaps you think this talk of contamination is just paranoid squeamishness. You wish. Fifty to eighty percent of all food-borne illnesses originate in the home. Food-borne pathogens cause 6.5 million cases of gastroenteritis and 9,000 deaths per year. Home contamination is blamed for 20 percent of food-poisoning cases, more than any other source.

What to do? Most guys will happily go on wallowing in filth, but Professor Gerba offers these tips for everybody else:

* Wipe down sinks and drains each day with a cleanser containing chlorine bleach. This will knock out 99.9 percent of fecal organisms. Countertops, appliances, and faucet handles should get the treatment two or three times a week, and toilets, tubs, and showers once a week.
* Use separate cutting boards for meat and vegetables, lest you transfer germs from one to the other.
* Throw cutting boards, kitchen sponges, and dishcloths in the dishwasher (or, in the case of the latter items, the washing machine) after use. Alternatively, soak them for five minutes in a sink full of water containing a cup of bleach.
* When doing laundry, make underwear the last load. Don't sort by colors (or at least don't put colored underwear with other colored items). Use chlorine bleach, which will clean both the clothes and your washing machine.
* Use bleach tablets in your toilet bowl. And take it from me, if you do nothing else, put your toothbrush back in the medicine cabinet after use.

--CECIL ADAMS

JustErin said:

So then the peewater splashes on the lid and drips back down to the seat, so you wipe it clean each and every time after, before you sit on it

RIGHT ?

Cuz I mean then you are just sitting on dried peewater spray anyway if you dont




EVERYONE should PEE outside the damn housethats right take your nasty splashing peewater selves OUT the fucking side of the house

JustErin said:

So then the peewater splashes on the lid and drips back down to the seat, so you wipe it clean each and every time after, before you sit on it

RIGHT ?

Cuz I mean then you are just sitting on dried peewater spray anyway if you dont




EVERYONE should PEE outside the damn house

thats right take your nasty splashing peewater selves OUT the fucking side of the house

Mach said:

It hits the closed lid and doesn't get on the actual seat. It doesn't drip onto the seat, it can't since that area is covered and dry.

And I dunno about you but not only do I always check out the seat anyway before I sit (having a 3 year old) but I also keep my bathroom spotless at all times. A little bit of OCD going on.

As well, just having the lid down looks nicer - I'm all about neat and clean looks.

Xcalibre said:

Because you should never flush the toilet unless the LID is down too. Water droplets fly for 6 feet!!

EVERYONE should PEE outside the damn house

Mach said:

It hits the closed lid and doesn't get on the actual seat. It doesn't drip onto the seat, it can't since that area is covered and dry.

And I dunno about you but not only do I always check out the seat anyway before I sit (having a 3 year old) but I also keep my bathroom spotless at all times. A little bit of OCD going on.

As well, just having the lid down looks nicer - I'm all about neat and clean looks.

JustErin said:

is there any scientific proof to back these claims?

theodore said:

good boy theo

I always put it up when standing, and I shake my ____ off and even dab it with a square of toilet paper 2. Then I close both the "ring" and the lid when done.

Happy?

makes me wonder this.....

most men I know can't even thread a needle yet they take their little doodahs in their big macho hands and try and aim it at the porcelin and TRY and I mean TRY to aim their stream down the toilet. What bugs me is that when they come to the end of their toilet and the stream is gradually coming to an end they move away from the bloody toilet when they should be getting nearer! Heavens preserve us...