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Reply #30 posted 06/17/08 7:09pm

ZombieKitten

I suppose any service would have a fee, in this case it would be unfair the recipient gets charged since he isn't a "merchant" or anything sad
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Reply #31 posted 06/17/08 7:23pm

horatio

ZombieKitten said:

I suppose any service would have a fee, in this case it would be unfair the recipient gets charged since he isn't a "merchant" or anything sad



i cant remember, but isnt that how wester union is? wired money?
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Reply #32 posted 06/17/08 7:24pm

horatio

ZombieKitten said:

horatio said:




when you buy from ebay the person listing the item gets charged for the listing of the item and for a percentage of the final price it sells for.

If you decide to pay for the item you won on ebay with paypal which ebay highly advocates, then the person receiving the payment also gets charged by paypal.

Thats why sometimes the person listing will tac on an extra charge in the
--'handling'--/shipping department to cover the cost of you paying them what they would lose for you using paypal.

Its not uncommon, in fact I would say its highly likely, it would just make good sense that even an item purchased by you out side of ebay, but paid through paypal likly has the added charge already calculated in its total cost, unknown to you.


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I understand all the eBay stuff nod

OK, here is the scenario lol I sent a friend overseas $25 I owed them (there was no set "price" so to speak, I owed him $25 so that is what I sent him, so he got charged for it? hmmm I will have to ask him how much he actually got. I just thought it would be an easier way than wiring money or something, since it was international.


yes, he got charged i believe 5%, if you used paypal to pay him.
He got charged something.
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Reply #33 posted 06/17/08 7:25pm

ZombieKitten

horatio said:

ZombieKitten said:

I suppose any service would have a fee, in this case it would be unfair the recipient gets charged since he isn't a "merchant" or anything sad



i cant remember, but isnt that how wester union is? wired money?

dunno boxed never tried it - I've seen on TV how people have to go into a western union office to do it, so I thought that looks like too much hassle, but it can probably be done online nowadays
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Reply #34 posted 06/17/08 7:26pm

ZombieKitten

horatio said:

ZombieKitten said:



I understand all the eBay stuff nod

OK, here is the scenario lol I sent a friend overseas $25 I owed them (there was no set "price" so to speak, I owed him $25 so that is what I sent him, so he got charged for it? hmmm I will have to ask him how much he actually got. I just thought it would be an easier way than wiring money or something, since it was international.


yes, he got charged i believe 5%, if you used paypal to pay him.
He got charged something.

bastards!!!! mad I will have to send him some more money now
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Reply #35 posted 06/17/08 7:27pm

horatio

ZombieKitten said:

horatio said:



yes, he got charged i believe 5%, if you used paypal to pay him.
He got charged something.

bastards!!!! mad I will have to send him some more money now

lol
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Reply #36 posted 06/17/08 7:27pm

ZombieKitten

horatio said:

ZombieKitten said:


bastards!!!! mad I will have to send him some more money now

lol

fuck it, it might be cheaper to fly to NY and hand him cash pissed
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Reply #37 posted 06/17/08 7:28pm

theodore

JessieJ said:

theodore said:

I'M SCARED OF SHOPPING ONLINE

WHY?!


Oh and do most of my shopping online. I fucking hate going to the store lol
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I'M JUST OVERLY PARANOID eek eek eek
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Reply #38 posted 06/17/08 8:32pm

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horatio said:

ZombieKitten said:



I understand all the eBay stuff nod

OK, here is the scenario lol I sent a friend overseas $25 I owed them (there was no set "price" so to speak, I owed him $25 so that is what I sent him, so he got charged for it? hmmm I will have to ask him how much he actually got. I just thought it would be an easier way than wiring money or something, since it was international.


yes, he got charged i believe 5%, if you used paypal to pay him.
He got charged something.



it's been awhile since i had to be aware of the distinction, but doesn't paypal only charge if you, as the seller, accept credit card payments?

i think it is (or used to be) free if you go the e-check route via paypal.

or maybe i'm mis-remembering. added the option (for the fees) to allow credit card payments a long time ago, just to avoid the hassle of having to tell people i didn't accept them.
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Reply #39 posted 06/17/08 8:39pm

horatio

Xcalibre said:

horatio said:



yes, he got charged i believe 5%, if you used paypal to pay him.
He got charged something.



it's been awhile since i had to be aware of the distinction, but doesn't paypal only charge if you, as the seller, accept credit card payments?

i think it is (or used to be) free if you go the e-check route via paypal.

or maybe i'm mis-remembering. added the option (for the fees) to allow credit card payments a long time ago, just to avoid the hassle of having to tell people i didn't accept them.


someone recently sent me an echeck and I got charged 20 dollars as the recipient. this was for something like 500 dollars
which isnt much until you add that I got chargeed for listing with ebay and for the final value, add the charge for echeck through payapl and its around 100.00
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Reply #40 posted 06/17/08 8:44pm

ZombieKitten

horatio said:

Xcalibre said:




it's been awhile since i had to be aware of the distinction, but doesn't paypal only charge if you, as the seller, accept credit card payments?

i think it is (or used to be) free if you go the e-check route via paypal.

or maybe i'm mis-remembering. added the option (for the fees) to allow credit card payments a long time ago, just to avoid the hassle of having to tell people i didn't accept them.


someone recently sent me an echeck and I got charged 20 dollars as the recipient. this was for something like 500 dollars

what is an echeck? eek
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Reply #41 posted 06/17/08 8:46pm

horatio

ZombieKitten said:

horatio said:



someone recently sent me an echeck and I got charged 20 dollars as the recipient. this was for something like 500 dollars

what is an echeck? eek


i dont really know, i just know that is how i got paid last time through paypal.
i was suspicious about it at first. but i have seen the green logo/box to click on for it before.
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Reply #42 posted 06/17/08 8:49pm

ZombieKitten

horatio said:

ZombieKitten said:


what is an echeck? eek


i dont really know, i just know that is how i got paid last time through paypal.
i was suspicious about it at first. but i have seen the green logo/box to click on for it before.


"You sent a request for money to someone and the payment came back in the form of an eCheck. What is an eCheck, and how does it differ from an instant PayPal payment?

In the same way that Quasi-cash is the equivalent of cash in the physical (as opposed to online) world, eChecks are the digital counterpoints of the pieces of paper found in a checkbook. When someone sends you an eCheck as payment, the funds won't be deposited into your account for three or four days (however long it takes for the eCheck to clear).

To send an eCheck, in response to an invoice or Money Request, you need to have a bank (checking or savings) account linked to your PayPal account. "
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Reply #43 posted 06/17/08 8:52pm

horatio

ZombieKitten said:

horatio said:



i dont really know, i just know that is how i got paid last time through paypal.
i was suspicious about it at first. but i have seen the green logo/box to click on for it before.


"You sent a request for money to someone and the payment came back in the form of an eCheck. What is an eCheck, and how does it differ from an instant PayPal payment?

In the same way that Quasi-cash is the equivalent of cash in the physical (as opposed to online) world, eChecks are the digital counterpoints of the pieces of paper found in a checkbook. When someone sends you an eCheck as payment, the funds won't be deposited into your account for three or four days (however long it takes for the eCheck to clear).

To send an eCheck, in response to an invoice or Money Request, you need to have a bank (checking or savings) account linked to your PayPal account. "


yeah it does take a few days for it to clear, but it really didnt seem to take any longer than a card payment.
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Reply #44 posted 06/17/08 8:56pm

ZombieKitten

horatio said:

ZombieKitten said:



"You sent a request for money to someone and the payment came back in the form of an eCheck. What is an eCheck, and how does it differ from an instant PayPal payment?

In the same way that Quasi-cash is the equivalent of cash in the physical (as opposed to online) world, eChecks are the digital counterpoints of the pieces of paper found in a checkbook. When someone sends you an eCheck as payment, the funds won't be deposited into your account for three or four days (however long it takes for the eCheck to clear).

To send an eCheck, in response to an invoice or Money Request, you need to have a bank (checking or savings) account linked to your PayPal account. "


yeah it does take a few days for it to clear, but it really didnt seem to take any longer than a card payment.


card payment as in someone paying with a pay pal linked to their credit card?
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Reply #45 posted 06/17/08 8:58pm

ZombieKitten

https://www.paypal.com/us...es-outside
I should have just looked on here rolleyes
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Reply #46 posted 06/17/08 9:23pm

horatio

ZombieKitten said:

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_display-fees-outside
I should have just looked on here rolleyes



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Reply #47 posted 06/18/08 6:14am

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Anxiety said:

CarrieMpls said:

I have a Visa check card. I don't think they even offer debit cards in the state of Minnesota. But Visa check cards are basically the same thing only better; it draws directly from your checking account and is accepted anywhere in the world Visa is.


that's the exact same thing as a debit card, isn't it? i had a visa "check card" thingie when i lived in chicago, and i think my card said "debit". i think it's all just a matter of what we call it from state to state. then again, i don't know much about money or banking stuff other than how to overdraw from my account. i'm good at that.


When debit cards were first introduced, they were often only for local markets. When I lived in Wisconsin, I had a debit card that could draw cash from an atm or be used at certain local businesses, but wasn't accepted as a Visa (it was a different network) so could really only be used locally.

I guess they're probably all Visa now. But you'll notice, for example, that when you run your card yourself at, say, the grocery store you have the option of choosing "debit" or "credit". No one in the state of Minnesota uses the debit option. It's only there cause the devices are made for national use.

So they're essentially the same. But they're different too.
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Reply #48 posted 06/18/08 6:48am

applekisses

I usually use PayPal. I think it's the safest way to go.
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Reply #49 posted 06/18/08 6:51am

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theodore said:

I'M SCARED OF SHOPPING ONLINE

me too- if i see something on ebay i like- i get my sister to bid- i give her a limit- and she sticks to it.

and then i'll only buy if i can use direct deposit- or she does paypal- and i deposit $ into her a/c
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #50 posted 06/18/08 8:01am

ArielB

luv4u said:

hokie said:

I always pay with a credit card. Why do you prefer debit? As for what sites allow you to use a debit card I don't know.


You get to access your bank and pay. That way it's paid for already no credit bill to pay off at the end of the month. I keep a copy of the bank transactions and the emails for shipping information.

I didn't know debit was an option as online payment.
PayPal is a good payment method, and credit card too. Those are the most protect methods that I know. I finally managed to verify my PayPal account. But since I'm broke, it doesn't really matter.

I used Western Union in the past, when I lived in Israel, since there was no option to verify a PayPal account and since I don't use credit cards. But the charge is high and there's no protection. Luckily I landed on honest sales.
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Reply #51 posted 06/18/08 8:04am

ArielB

theodore said:

JessieJ said:


WHY?!


Oh and do most of my shopping online. I fucking hate going to the store lol
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I'M JUST OVERLY PARANOID eek eek eek

Well, anyone who gets a hold on your card can misuse it. So it doesn't matter if it's online or not. Think about when ordering pizza, and you give the guy your credit card number.
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Reply #52 posted 06/18/08 8:15am

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When paying for winning auctions on eBay, I use PayPal. If it's anything else, though, I use my debit card.

And eBay + PayPal = SCAM! First I get charged eBay fees for selling something there, then they charge me again for having someone pay me through PayPal when it's the same damn company! I'm having people pay me in money orders from now on. mad
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Reply #53 posted 06/18/08 8:24am

ArielB

TMPletz said:

When paying for winning auctions on eBay, I use PayPal. If it's anything else, though, I use my debit card.

And eBay + PayPal = SCAM! First I get charged eBay fees for selling something there, then they charge me again for having someone pay me through PayPal when it's the same damn company! I'm having people pay me in money orders from now on. mad

Well, it's the same company but different services. But it's true, it sucks to be charged twice for one sale.
Now that my PayPal works, I'm going to start selling stuff. I have some used underwear that I'm not using anymore.
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Reply #54 posted 06/18/08 9:26am

theodore

prb said:

theodore said:

I'M SCARED OF SHOPPING ONLINE

me too- if i see something on ebay i like- i get my sister to bid- i give her a limit- and she sticks to it.

and then i'll only buy if i can use direct deposit- or she does paypal- and i deposit $ into her a/c


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Reply #55 posted 06/18/08 9:26am

theodore

ArielB said:

theodore said:




I'M JUST OVERLY PARANOID eek eek eek

Well, anyone who gets a hold on your card can misuse it. So it doesn't matter if it's online or not. Think about when ordering pizza, and you give the guy your credit card number.


hmmm I don't even have a credit card, though

But that's why I'd rather not use my mom's.
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Reply #56 posted 06/18/08 7:40pm

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ArielB said:



I finally managed to verify my PayPal account. But since I'm broke, it doesn't really matter.

I used Western Union in the past, when I lived in Israel, since there was no option to verify a PayPal account and since I don't use credit cards. But the charge is high and there's no protection. Luckily I landed on honest sales.


How did you manage to do that??? I've had a hell of a time trying to verify my PayPal account. It don't like my bank information. wall
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