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THERE is the realisation Mutha & I had that stopped our dispute, and probably would have stopped the whole MDiver shit if, admittedly, both parties had backed down.

Since Europe doesn't have the same problems with race that America has, it seems insulting to us to be told we know nothing of racism; as if we're idiots. It's a difference in our lifestyles and culture. Racism in Europe is serious when it occurs - like, murder serious. There isn't the same climate of general racism towards black people, and so yes, I would say we lack an awareness of it when in America, and it actually seems like black people are being hateful/racist (I use the term carefully) towards us. This is also to do with the fact that we do not have the same history. America was, and is still, disgustingly racist. It's media literally horrify me with some of the stuff they say. I actually want to just sit and scream and American politicians about how idiotic they are. It's everything that goes unsaid in America; all racism doesn't actually "occur" but is implied. Stupid, stupid country.

Hence, Europeans should probably be separated from Yanks in sub-fora within P&R. Otherwise we will always clash.

Now if we could only segregate the UK from continental Europe, life could be really swell!

Ok well I know that my opinion will not be very popular on this thread but since everyone else can speak up then so can I. I should not have to stay quiet because I am married to Mdiver.
I have to say for me personally. I did try very hard to get along and understand MF. I asked him questions nicely and even pointed out the issues that we agreed on. He still decided to attack me every chance that he got before ever listening what I had to say.

I am from the US and now I live in the UK. I see the differences in the racial issues. I go places here and I am surrounded by ppl of all RACES, I am usually the minority.
The difference here seems to be that ppl take it all in stride. They do not keep separating themselves by the colour of their skin.
I know that I could never fully understand what it is like to be black. It should not keep dividing us when we have other things in common.

I think there is room enough for all opinions, races, sexual preferences.... on this site as long as ppl remain respectful.

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Wow! Tons happen around here in the wee hours.

That's the problem respect... both sides say they are not receiving any.

You signature for example, no one is trying to "school" just receive and get understanding.

The sensible, European attitude.

PLEASE CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG. HERE, HAVE SOME TEA. CRUMPET?

That attitude is misunderstood by me... culture clash

translation to me: Shut up black girl, we've had enough from you. You reported my friend for no reason, stop being a bitch.

See how we see things differently? This is how this post comes off to me, this is why there is so much debate in P&R. I see it... do you?
Both sides can misinterpret things and get statements confused

You just did that with my posts. You mistook every one. just like I just did Abeirman's response.... see how easy that was?

Now if we could only segregate the UK from continental Europe, life could be really swell!

Wow! Tons happen around here in the wee hours.

I tried on many occasions to understand him and his stance. Instead of explaining it to me he would just get nasty and disrespectful. In one breath we are being told that we could never understand then we are told that we need to understand. I don't get it. You cannot have it both ways.
Let's discuss your previous sig then.
.Why is it always that white ppl need to understand black ppl
One of the issues that Mdiver had in the race threads was the need to constantly draw the line between the two.

We are all humans first. It is one thing to explain and understand someone and another to always try to preach to them.
It was alright that MF used to always say Preach.
Interesting!

For realz. When we last saw our cast the thread was on page 1 now it's on page 5. WTF happened overnight.

Now if we could only segregate the UK from continental Europe, life could be really swell!

Can someone who loves both of those knuckleheads say something?

Well I don't know Mutha. But his childish insinuating that I was a racist on one of meow85's threads was rather telling , and then orgnoting folks who didn't "back him up" against me was even funnier. That cunt.

Can someone who loves both of those knuckleheads say something?

I try to stay completely out of it all. I have tried to go behind the scenes and try to make them just leave each other alone. I've rallied on both of their behalfs to get them back. I've spoken to both and NEITHER of them are trolls or RACISTS. I know that's the thing to throw around here but it just ain't so. Mutha is a highly opinionated stubborn man. Phil is a highly opinionated stubborn man. In Phil's rose colored world, he thinks race is a stupid concept and although others may NOT agree with that, it is a stupid concept. Mutha lives in a world where his experiences as a black man color his world another shade and racism is a reality. I think they have a lot to teach each other if one could shut the fuck up and listen to the other.

I miss them but I don't miss the fighting.
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Can someone who loves both of those knuckleheads say something?

I try to stay completely out of it all. I have tried to go behind the scenes and try to make them just leave each other alone. I've rallied on both of their behalfs to get them back. I've spoken to both and NEITHER of them are trolls or RACISTS. I know that's the thing to throw around here but it just ain't so. Mutha is a highly opinionated stubborn man. Phil is a highly opinionated stubborn man. In Phil's rose colored world, he thinks race is a stupid concept and although others may NOT agree with that, it is a stupid concept. Mutha lives in a world where his experiences as a black man color his world another shade and racism is a reality. I think they have a lot to teach each other if one could shut the fuck up and listen to the other.

I miss them but I don't miss the fighting.
[Edited 6/18/08 6:53am]

Well I don't know Mutha. But his childish insinuating that I was a racist on one of meow85's threads was rather telling , and then orgnoting folks who didn't "back him up" against me was even funnier. That cunt.