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some gay men do feel that need, some gay men prefer to adopt. others prefer not to raise kids at all.

kinda like any other person, really.

as to how we do it, i'll leave that tutorial up to you, google and the rest of the org.

yeah, what he said

Anxiety said:

My mistake...

... so if they want their OWN kids .. they would have to mate with a female...

Most of my gay professors and friends are childless.. .. kinda sad since kids are so much fun but a lot of work.

.. and now they can find a surrogate to have the baby for them.

pplrain said:

ur seriously just now learning these things dude? lol

pplrain said:

I don't want to debate semantics, but I think a lot of people who have adopted would frown upon the emphasis on OWN. And there are other ways to conceive besides mating in the traditional sense...although that's not the end of the world either.

As for me, like your professors and friends, I'm childless, and it's not at all sad.

Efan said:

It may not be sad for you but it certainly is sad for them. I know that for a fact.

pplrain said:

i know all kinds of straight people, single and partnered, who are well into their 30s and don't have kids. why does procreating need to be the end all and be all of happiness? it is for some people, it isn't for others.

Anxiety said:

Don't get all defensive with me now..



I'm just asking a question and if kids are not for you, it certainly is OK.
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pplrain said:

lol

I don't really feel the "need" to have children. I'd LIKE to have children some day, but I know that I'm not financially or emotionally in a place where it would be right of me to do so. I'm undecided if feeling like I want to have children or need to have children is the more important thing.

Perhaps when the time comes, and I have the option, it may be very important to me that I'm their biological father. But I doubt it. I think I'd love a child as my own whether I had contributed to his/her DNA or not.

pplrain said:

it comes across as one of those questions like 'whats it like to have sex with another guy'

horatio said:

exactly - why is the instinct to have children different if you're straight or if you're gay?

pplrain said:

It's never happened in history, never once.

POPPYCOCK

Xcalibre said:

No one is financially ready for kids..

pplrain said:

thanks for the words of wisdom..

horatio said:

Let me clairfy that is not what I meant..

Most people feel the need to procreate at some time or the other in their life.

Anxiety said:

I believe it could be different and so I am asking.

Do gay men feel the need or instinct to have kids.

pplrain said:

Well, considering gay men adopt, that probably answers your question right there. I doubt they're doing it for fun, as kids are notoriously difficult and expensive to raise.

pplrain said:

I'm sure people with a couple million cooling in the bank are probably pretty close to being financially ready.

pplrain said:

how do you think it could be different?

my answer is that some gay men feel the need/instinct to have kids, and that it isn't different than the instinct any other person feels.

Anxiety said:

Being gay is not a willful change as I know it, it is deeper than that.

Xcalibre said:

Let say the average person not millionaires..

pplrain said:

exactly. in my experience, it's like being right handed or left handed. you just gravitate toward one direction or the other. some people are ambidexterous and can use both hands just like some people are bisexual. ya get it?

so would a left handed person want to use scissors for different reasons than right handed people, even though most scissors are impossible for left handed people to use?

oh lord

Anxiety said:

good analogy .... NoT! . next time I will think about you when cutting some fabric.

pplrain said:

i think i was doing good up to the scissors part.

Anxiety said:

I think so too... now lay off the