sextonseven said: XxAxX said: how about tech writing? something like that, or maybe summarizing medical records or such. you could work from home once you were established. Freelance writing is a good idea. We have several people that write freelance for our magazines and I have no idea where they live. And meow, if you need a phone number and address just for documentation, can't you use a cell phone and the address of a relative? That's not a bad idea, actually. The question is whether or not that's something I could survive off of. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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ZombieKitten said: meow85 said: Most people you'll ever meet make themselves go out and pick a career so they can buy the big TV and the right clothes and pay their mortgage and their car loans and take yearly vacations to the exact same spot at the exact same time every year, so as not to interfere with work. They plan their entire lives around some dumbass job they don't even like, instead of planning their jobs around their lives. And they're miserable sons of bitches for it. How many truly, genuinely happy people do you meet? One or two in a long, long while, and they're generally pretty far apart. I know people with jobs they would rather really not talk about, nothing in particular jobs, they spend all day answering the phone and writing emails, but what do they actually DO?! You need a career in research of some sort I reckon, where you can learn and learn and learn some more. Most grownups (and by that I mean adults who aren't me ) that I know have jobs like that. Something they got into for the money or to pay for the big house or whichever, and while they may have plenty materially as a result, they've got nothing really worthwhile out of the deal. All it takes is to accidently listen in to other's conversations about their jobs to see most people are not happy with what they do. Research? "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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MoonSongs said: Have you thought about some type of volunteer service ~ Habitat For Humanity, Bird Sanctuaries, Clean Water projects in Ghana, Mentoring kids in Inner cities ~ there are endless opportunities, in any venue you can imagine, all over the world. Many of the organizations will provide room and board, although you sometimes have to get to the site on your own. Many pay a stipend as well and the experience you'll gain would be incredible and could lead you to what you want to ultimately do as your life's work. What exciting prospects for you!
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meow85 said: ZombieKitten said: I know people with jobs they would rather really not talk about, nothing in particular jobs, they spend all day answering the phone and writing emails, but what do they actually DO?! You need a career in research of some sort I reckon, where you can learn and learn and learn some more. Most grownups (and by that I mean adults who aren't me ) that I know have jobs like that. Something they got into for the money or to pay for the big house or whichever, and while they may have plenty materially as a result, they've got nothing really worthwhile out of the deal. All it takes is to accidently listen in to other's conversations about their jobs to see most people are not happy with what they do. Research? I don't think research is for everyone, but it keeps my 2 cousins busy | |
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Xcalibre said: meow85 said: It's ass-early in the morning, and I can't sleep. I just need to get this out, so please bare with me, kids.
Well here it is folks. In a pique of frustration, today I've quit my last and now only job. I had two jobs. Now none. The first was a cleaning job that was going along fine. I got fired for what amounts to wrongful dismissal. The labour board's already been contacted about that, so that's not the problem. The second I quit because if I had to tag one more bloody item while listening to a corporate playlist of stupid songs pulled out of cell phone ads for what's essentially a starvation wage, I was going to scream. But that was a stupid thing to do. I've got less than a full summer left to save money before I can haul my ass out of this backwards shithole of a town. Oddly enough, that's not even my biggest concern right now. While going over my finances and re-juggling how I'm going to manage it all this evening, something occurred to me. The whole thing's a waste of time. Since I was 17 I've been working jobs I hate that have no hope of advancement and piss-poor pay and not having shit to show for it. That said, I just finished 1st year of a degree this spring and am getting myself organized for 2nd year -figuring the most logical way out of this wage-slavery being higher education. My problem? I have no idea what sort of a career I'd want to aim for. Not a damned clue. And at 23, and with 6 years of the nobly-named "service" jobs under my belt, I'm in need of a change and a shot at a real job. Trouble is, I can only coast in school for one more year (it's an Associate degree) before I have to make a decision. Why haven't I been able to make one? Because I don't want to do anything. Well, that's not really it, either. I do want to do something. I want to read and learn and be a student of a sort and travel and see the world and try new things and meet new people and go outside my comfort zone completely and just be happy with my life and my existence. THAT is what I want to do with my life. Most people you'll ever meet make themselves go out and pick a career so they can buy the big TV and the right clothes and pay their mortgage and their car loans and take yearly vacations to the exact same spot at the exact same time every year, so as not to interfere with work. They plan their entire lives around some dumbass job they don't even like, instead of planning their jobs around their lives. And they're miserable sons of bitches for it. How many truly, genuinely happy people do you meet? One or two in a long, long while, and they're generally pretty far apart. What I want to do -what I think would make me truly, genuinely happy -is not that. I don't want to own or rent a home, or even have a fixed address. I want to get rid of all but my most important possessions, and perhaps have those in storage for safekeeping. I'd have a P.O. Box and an email address and maybe a laptop to stay in touch with those most important to me, and that's it. Not even a phone. I don't want or need a car, because I've got no desire to be a motorist, or pay for the so-called privilege of being one. I want to go wherever and whenever I feel like. An itinerant life appeals to me. Of course, the big goddamn puzzle is -how could I pay for that? Nothing's free anymore, not even freedom. If I want to do this -and I believe I can, if I can only sort out the details -I'm going to need to figure out some long-term income plan. Though it'd be nice, winning the lottery's far-fetched, and I don't play anyway. I wish I knew where to start. I've gone over in my mind all the obvious, travel-friendly careers, but all have problems. Travel writer? They get paid by their employers to lie. Airline stewardess or cruiseline worker? It's the same servile, low-paying jobs I've been doing down on terra firma, and you can't pick where you go. Missionary? I don't believe in shoving foreign religion down people's throats, thanks. Archeologist? I'm probably bright enough, but I fail to see the humour in shoving my face in pits of sand and rock for months on end. UN Envoy? I think you're only allowed to be one of those if you're a celebrity of dubious talent. When I am an old woman, I want to have a story worth telling. I don't want to tell my grandchildren, when they ask about my life, that I spent 40 years underneath fluorescent lights begging for a slip of money. Millions of years of evolution brings us to this? I don't think we were made for that. It's getting light now, and though I'm done with this post, my mind's still going a mile a minute. I won't be able to sleep. I don't know what I'm looking for here, or why I thought it might be useful to post any of this. I think that I hoped that I'm not the only one. I've sort of been in this situation before and still am to some degree. It's taken me many, many years and a lot of recent heartache, but I finally realized after 17 years that the crappy job that I've had since I was a teenager is actually what I want to do for a living. Somewhere along the way, I actually grew to love it. So who knows what's out there that you want to do. You may even up getting stuck doing it for the rest of your life before you even realize that it's what you actually wanted to do all along. But seriously....and pardon me if I'm being a little too blunt...if you quit a job in this economy because of the muzak playlist, then you don't really deserve one. I hope you were exaggerating or I misinterpreted that. The muzak was the least of the problems. That said, I'm Canadian and our economy's not yet in the shitter. Jobs up here are a dime a dozen. If that hadn't been the case I'd have been more than willing to tough it out. As it is, this job I just quit I got without resume or interview. I just walked in, asked if they were hiring, and started the next day. Oh, Canada, indeed. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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applekisses said: meow85 said: I've already got a Student Loan arranged for next year. Trouble is, I can only coast without a plan for next year, then after that any schooling will have to be done with a career in mind. Much as I'd like to be a perpetual student, I can't live off the part-time wages I'd be making as a student I was in a similar position when I was your age. I bounced around from major to major trying to decide what to do (I wanted to get a degree in computer graphic design back then and I couldn't find a school around here that offered it) and I remember my sister telling me that I just had to pick SOMETHING so I could graduate and get a job. The advice she gave me was right for me. I was so sick of working three part-time jobs with no healthcare benefits and still living below the poverty level. It took me 10 years to get my B.A. because I was working and going mostly part-time to school and after working for 10 years I'm back in school to get a degree in what I wanted to do in the first place - graphic design. It happens to fit in with the career that I'm currently in so it's just making me more marketable. I guess what I'm saying is that maybe if you can find a major that is even remotely interesting to you, you can possibly make enough money to live on and have the benefit of exploring your options later. I know it can be frustrating and scary if you need to talk send me an orgnote, ok? Thanks. I'll keep you in mind. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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ZombieKitten said: meow85 said: Most grownups (and by that I mean adults who aren't me ) that I know have jobs like that. Something they got into for the money or to pay for the big house or whichever, and while they may have plenty materially as a result, they've got nothing really worthwhile out of the deal. All it takes is to accidently listen in to other's conversations about their jobs to see most people are not happy with what they do. Research? I don't think research is for everyone, but it keeps my 2 cousins busy It could be something to look into. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: ZombieKitten said: I don't think research is for everyone, but it keeps my 2 cousins busy It could be something to look into. you might find something you become totally engrossed in! That is my dream too, to find the THING lol | |
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ZombieKitten said: meow85 said: It could be something to look into. you might find something you become totally engrossed in! That is my dream too, to find the THING lol I'm sure there's a way to combine History of Rock with Sociology. Pop Culture Studies...? "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: ZombieKitten said: you might find something you become totally engrossed in! That is my dream too, to find the THING lol I'm sure there's a way to combine History of Rock with Sociology. Pop Culture Studies...? totally!!! | |
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ZombieKitten said: meow85 said: I'm sure there's a way to combine History of Rock with Sociology. Pop Culture Studies...? totally!!! That would be pretty interesting. Now the question is, is there any way I can finagle a career in that field that doesn't require me to sit still? "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: MoonSongs said: Have you thought about some type of volunteer service ~ Habitat For Humanity, Bird Sanctuaries, Clean Water projects in Ghana, Mentoring kids in Inner cities ~ there are endless opportunities, in any venue you can imagine, all over the world. Many of the organizations will provide room and board, although you sometimes have to get to the site on your own. Many pay a stipend as well and the experience you'll gain would be incredible and could lead you to what you want to ultimately do as your life's work. What exciting prospects for you!
I have a lot of friends who've done this and I did it while in college to fulfill field requirements (in social work). A lot of these are short term ~ you can sign up for building one house for example, with Habitat, or work for a rescue season at a Sanctuary. They provide the training and your fee is paid with your service. You would meet incredible people and one experience leads to another. A friend of mine worked with something similar to the Peace Corps in Ghana for a year and said it was a life changing event that completely switched her educational and career course ~ and, she's been all over the world for a very small amount of money. Music is the language of the spirit. It opens the secret of life bringing peace, abolishing strife. --Kahlil Gibran | |
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meow85 said: ZombieKitten said: totally!!! That would be pretty interesting. Now the question is, is there any way I can finagle a career in that field that doesn't require me to sit still? do you like talking to people? you could travel around and meet people to interview and collaborate with. Who says you need to sit down when you ask folks questions - look at all the folks who follow presidents around whilst they jog [Edited 6/12/08 23:09pm] | |
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ZombieKitten said: psychodelicide said: Sounds like a very-well educated person. I think when it was so highly specialised and on the frontier like that, the university paid her a wage or am I getting my cousins mixed up I know my other one stayed on after she did her PhD and can live quite comfortably off what they pay her, and she is doing what she is passionate about! That's awesome! It's great to hear about someone who loves their job. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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meow85 said: In most parts of Canada you need, if not a fixed address, then a fixed phone number, to get a job like that. And anywhere else in the world requires a work visa, and to get one of those you need -yup -an address. So I'd still have to find a place to buy or rent at least part of the year, and have bills, rent, and/or a mortgage to stress over.
I don't see how you are going to get around shelter costs? These jobs need a "fixed" place to contact you at. | |
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