JustErin said: eikonoklastes said: They'll sabotage your relationship because they want daddy back. So all single women with children over the age of 5 are in an absent daddy situation? All children of divorced/separated families are going to sabotage the new interest of their parents? So basically these people are supposed to just stay single? holy spelling mistakes! [Edited 6/11/08 14:26pm] i so agree with u erin. follow the leader follow the leader | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: MoniGram said: I agree with this part of your statement! I never let my kids meet the man I was dating until I knew he was a good guy, and would be around for a bit. Needless to say..they didn't meet many. It's so not fair for kids to get used to someone and then the mom dumps them for whatever reason and they are not around anymore. Better that the kids have stability of not having the rug yanked out from under them I can agree with this too,because i know someone very well and had a lil girl who was 5 yrs. old and the daddy just passed away(knew him very well too,very sad.) but the women in mention,started dating just right after he passed away..and i thought can u imagen what the her lil daughter is thinking? she then proceeded to this day to go thro men like toilet paper. the girl is 13 yrs. old now and still remembers her mom with men from that time period and don't like it now. the girl is a very smart and sweet good kid. i feel 4 her. follow the leader follow the leader | |
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My daughter doesn't meet anyone I date. No one. She's the type of kid who gets attached to people really easily and I don't wanna risk it.
As far as dating women with children, I don't have any reservations about it. | |
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violator said: My daughter doesn't meet anyone I date. No one. She's the type of kid who gets attached to people really easily and I don't wanna risk it.
As far as dating JustErin, I don't have any reservations about that. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Flowerz said: .. we must come from the same neighborhood... that's another thread, but that is the truth.. i have SEEN that, more than once too ..and i dont understand that.. Will you call off the witch hunters for me? I give my experience and what I have seen in my life and all of a sudden I'm physically, psychologically and emotionally abusing women around here I don't think anyone would dispute that there are some women like that out there. But where I take issue is with Old Dude coming in here swinging around the term "bitches", and lumping all women into the same catagory based on his experience. That shit ain't cool. If that was his experience then too bad for him, but I question the mindset of a person that keeps being drawn to what he sees as problematic women, then moaning about it, IN ADDITION to not knowing how address women collectively without referring to them as bitches. I've seen bachelors young and old do very well with dating single moms but I think it definitely depends on how "together" the woman is in the first place. When a woman's got her hustle together, raising healthy productive children,has an active social and hobby life, and great spiritual walk...trust and believe she's smart enough to already know that "like attracts like", and "great minds think alike", so the LAST thing she's thinking about is how to snatch up some raggedy ass commitment phobe into house and home for-evah-evah, when her life is already full enough. Shit, that's what The Rabbit and drive-by booty-calls are made for. Tides you over until someone compatible with a shared sense of purpose comes along. [Edited 6/13/08 6:57am] | |
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Ottensen said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Will you call off the witch hunters for me? I give my experience and what I have seen in my life and all of a sudden I'm physically, psychologically and emotionally abusing women around here I don't think anyone would dispute that there are some women like that out there. But where I take issue is with Old Dude coming in here swinging around the term "bitches", and lumping all women into the same catagory based on his experience. That shit ain't cool. If that was his experience then too bad for him, but I question the mindset of a person that keeps being drawn to what he sees as problematic women, then moaning about it, IN ADDITION to not knowing how address women collectively without referring to them as bitches. I've seen bachelors young and old do very well with dating single moms but I think it definitely depends on how "together" the woman is in the first place. When a woman's got her hustle together, raising healthy productive children,has an active social and hobby life, and great spiritual walk...trust and believe she's smart enough to already know that "like attracts like", and "great minds think alike", so the LAST thing she's thinking about is how to snatch up some raggedy ass commitment phobe into house and home for-evah-evah, when her life is already full enough. Shit, that's what The Rabbit and drive-by booty-calls are made for. Tides you over until someone compatible with a shared sense of purpose comes along. [Edited 6/13/08 6:57am] Ya got that right. I think it's hard for some men to accept the fact that some single moms think exactly this way. This is totally where I am right now. [Edited 6/13/08 7:31am] | |
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Ottensen said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Will you call off the witch hunters for me? I give my experience and what I have seen in my life and all of a sudden I'm physically, psychologically and emotionally abusing women around here I don't think anyone would dispute that there are some women like that out there. But where I take issue is with Old Dude coming in here swinging around the term "bitches", and lumping all women into the same catagory based on his experience. That shit ain't cool. If that was his experience then too bad for him, but I question the mindset of a person that keeps being drawn to what he sees as problematic women, then moaning about it, IN ADDITION to not knowing how address women collectively without referring to them as bitches. I've seen bachelors young and old do very well with dating single moms but I think it definitely depends on how "together" the woman is in the first place. When a woman's got her hustle together, raising healthy productive children,has an active social and hobby life, and great spiritual walk...trust and believe she's smart enough to already know that "like attracts like", and "great minds think alike", so the LAST thing she's thinking about is how to snatch up some raggedy ass commitment phobe into house and home for-evah-evah, when her life is already full enough. Shit, that's what The Rabbit and drive-by booty-calls are made for. Tides you over until someone compatible with a shared sense of purpose comes along. [Edited 6/13/08 6:57am] Sounds all good in writing. Try that shiut in real life. . | |
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I just think dudes who get into these situations like this just go after what they preceive as the easier targets, and then get pissed off when they find out that it ain't as easy as they thought. | |
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morningsong said: I just think dudes who get into these situations like this just go after what they preceive as the easier targets, and then get pissed off when they find out that it ain't as easy as they thought.
Okay...now I agree with this. I think people are wondering if I'm in this situation. I'm dating someone with kids but I'm not committed like that. I just see things. There's no committment here. I couldn't do it considering the circumstances. Hell, we both agree on this. If you were to ask her, she'd tell you the same thing. But listen man....everyone is their own Keeper with God. Do what yall want to...I was just saying. | |
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AlienX2050 said: morningsong said: I just think dudes who get into these situations like this just go after what they preceive as the easier targets, and then get pissed off when they find out that it ain't as easy as they thought.
Okay...now I agree with this. I think people are wondering if I'm in this situation. I'm dating someone with kids but I'm not committed like that. I just see things. There's no committment here. I couldn't do it considering the circumstances. Hell, we both agree on this. If you were to ask her, she'd tell you the same thing. But listen man....everyone is their own Keeper with God. Do what yall want to...I was just saying. Can't say what situation you're in, relationships are difficult sometimes regardless. I'm just seeing it from a lot of different prespectives. The flip side is when the dude tells the single mom "you act like you don't need a man" usually after he discovers she's handling everything on her own and doesn't let him all "up" in her life. A catch 22. Either you're too needy or not needy enough. | |
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Oddly enough, there's one theory I've learned from studying political science that could be easily applied to this topic: Where you stand depends on where you sit.
Which in my case is completely true. I'm 25 years old, single and I've never been in a relationship. The question I ask myself is: Am I ready to help raising two kids that are NOT mine in my FIRST relationship? And my answer is no. Why? Because I feel I'm not mature enough to deal with that big of a responsability just yet. While I'm certainly not more experienced when it comes to raising one child vs. two or more, I feel that it would be slightly easier to manage, and I know that a close friend of mine was in a relationship with a girl that has one child from a previous relationship and I saw clearly that while it may not be easy it's certainly worth the effort. (Yes I said he WAS with her, but they split up for reasons that had nothing to do with the child) These are my "two cents" on this matter. Feel free to criticize me for my opinion but please try to understand where I'm coming from. [Edited 6/13/08 16:15pm] | |
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After my husband and his 1st wife divorced, he dated a woman with a young son. She brought the child over to his house, and he jumped up and down on the "white couch". That was the last date. Nevermind, he had two daughters. Thus, my comments on another thread, about double standards, which I've seen.
It isn't easy to handle already established behaviors, on child rearing, which you may or may not agree with. It takes a mature, tolerant, flexible person, to handle a step-family, and it's better to be honest about not being able to deal with it. If I hadn't become pregnant the first year of our marriage, I'd have left. Honest to God. Between my husband's oldest daughter, her undiagnosed bipolar disorder, plus drug abuse, and my mother-in-law who moved two blocks away.....I'd a flown outta there like a bat out of hell.....There was a long, difficult, ten years,... Throw in my hubbie's infidelity, which according to some, I'm "responsible" (or played a part) for....I look back, and I'm surprised I survived it all. | |
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xplnyrslf said: After my husband and his 1st wife divorced, he dated a woman with a young son. She brought the child over to his house, and he jumped up and down on the "white couch". That was the last date. Nevermind, he had two daughters. Thus, my comments on another thread, about double standards, which I've seen.
It isn't easy to handle already established behaviors, on child rearing, which you may or may not agree with. It takes a mature, tolerant, flexible person, to handle a step-family, and it's better to be honest about not being able to deal with it. If I hadn't become pregnant the first year of our marriage, I'd have left. Honest to God. Between my husband's oldest daughter, her undiagnosed bipolar disorder, plus drug abuse, and my mother-in-law who moved two blocks away.....I'd a flown outta there like a bat out of hell.....There was a long, difficult, ten years,... Throw in my hubbie's infidelity, which according to some, I'm "responsible" (or played a part) for....I look back, and I'm surprised I survived it all. so did you leave him yet? | |
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xplnyrslf said: After my husband and his 1st wife divorced, he dated a woman with a young son. She brought the child over to his house, and he jumped up and down on the "white couch". That was the last date. Nevermind, he had two daughters. Thus, my comments on another thread, about double standards, which I've seen.
It isn't easy to handle already established behaviors, on child rearing, which you may or may not agree with. It takes a mature, tolerant, flexible person, to handle a step-family, and it's better to be honest about not being able to deal with it. If I hadn't become pregnant the first year of our marriage, I'd have left. Honest to God. Between my husband's oldest daughter, her undiagnosed bipolar disorder, plus drug abuse, and my mother-in-law who moved two blocks away.....I'd a flown outta there like a bat out of hell.....There was a long, difficult, ten years,... Throw in my hubbie's infidelity, which according to some, I'm "responsible" (or played a part) for....I look back, and I'm surprised I survived it all. Well thanks for showing the flip side to a how a woman has to adjust to a MAN who already has children. Unlike what the original poster suggested, I don't think in any way that it's just men who have to suffer if they are dating a single mom. On either side of the sexual fence there are going to be a ton of factors that dictate whether or not a person will have a sucessful, enduring relationship with a single parent. | |
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ZombieKitten said: xplnyrslf said: After my husband and his 1st wife divorced, he dated a woman with a young son. She brought the child over to his house, and he jumped up and down on the "white couch". That was the last date. Nevermind, he had two daughters. Thus, my comments on another thread, about double standards, which I've seen.
It isn't easy to handle already established behaviors, on child rearing, which you may or may not agree with. It takes a mature, tolerant, flexible person, to handle a step-family, and it's better to be honest about not being able to deal with it. If I hadn't become pregnant the first year of our marriage, I'd have left. Honest to God. Between my husband's oldest daughter, her undiagnosed bipolar disorder, plus drug abuse, and my mother-in-law who moved two blocks away.....I'd a flown outta there like a bat out of hell.....There was a long, difficult, ten years,... Throw in my hubbie's infidelity, which according to some, I'm "responsible" (or played a part) for....I look back, and I'm surprised I survived it all. so did you leave him yet? HELL NO! After all the suffering I endured, a little infidelity is going to intimidate ME???? | |
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xplnyrslf said: ZombieKitten said: so did you leave him yet? HELL NO! After all the suffering I endured, a little infidelity is going to intimidate ME???? In it for the long haul. Alrighty, then. | |
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eikonoklastes said: emm said: the paradox i love is "ok, she doesn't have any kids... bonus. but she's 35 and never been married so something must be wrong with her" Why you think men go for younger women? That's right, because older bitches who are single either have issues or kids. Actually most seem to have both. Is that how you refer to women in your family... oh I forget you just fell out of the sky.. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Don't date women with even one child. The motherly instinct to provide for their child has many women using and abusing men. Just bang around if you can do it without commitment. Children really shouldn't be exposed to their mother's dating.
Now where the heck is that advice coming from? Am I missing something? | |
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MoniGram said: hokie said: This is a really frustrating thread. I know I know...I don't have to be here.
You know what? More than some of the men here saying that they don't want to date single mothers the thing that upsets me is referring to women as bitches. That is totally annoying and really shows a high level of ignorance and disprespect. co-sign! | |
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WellInever said: i once told a gal with 3 kids that men added the weight of the kids onto the weight of the woman to get her effective weight. She got mad. I said, if a woman works hard she could lose 50, 60 pounds in a few months. Can't sweat away 3 kids.
I would say, if you think you want a kid, date or even marry a woman with a kid or two, but never adopt. WTF? | |
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violator said: My daughter doesn't meet anyone I date. No one. She's the type of kid who gets attached to people really easily and I don't wanna risk it.
As far as dating women with children, I don't have any reservations about it. Violator you sound like a very responsible ADULT. [Edited 6/14/08 21:44pm] | |
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morningsong said: xplnyrslf said: HELL NO! After all the suffering I endured, a little infidelity is going to intimidate ME???? In it for the long haul. Alrighty, then. Believe it or not, everything panned out. My stepdaughter is taking medication and is stable. My hubby is at an age, where, if he wanted to get some outside nookie, I'd have to literally drive him there, and pick him up (he's much older than I am)..... | |
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