hokie said:

I am not saying this about you or the other cool single moms in this thread so nobody panic but that fear right there....taking care of one's kids leads a lot of women to do whatever they can to make sure there is an income stream and or father figure for their kids. Being that I have grown up dysfunctionally, I have seen this about a billion times. I can't be the only one who has seen this either.

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[Edited 6/11/08 16:45pm]

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

No, I don't think I am not underplaying the dysfunctional side of it at all by what I said. I sure know that many people (almost everyone in one way or another) grow up in messed up ways...it's just some break the cycle and some don't...some are open to other ways of life, other types of people and some aren't.

hokie said:

I think that it's really hard for some people to just accept that not everyone is looking for what they are looking for.

And I think it's exceptionally hard for some men to realize that not all women put having a man on the top of their lists. Maybe because it makes them feel less important as a man? I dunno. It's silly really.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I can see your point and I know you aren't directing that toward me. I plan on taking care of my kids the old fashioned way. By going out and working my ass off.

JustErin said:

Wake up, this whole thread is silly. emm tried to tell people, but some still don't get it I guess.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Not all insecure, chauvinistic men can get chicks, some can but others are too messed up and have major deep issues with themselves and their attitudes to women that they end up alone.

eikonoklastes said:

Yes, yes...we know...it's all a big joke but while some of you joke around, others are having a serious (and interesting, imo) dialogue about it.

hokie said:

Well I know that's what all of you super functional single moms in this thread have done!

Seriously, I do believe that women's instinct to provide for their kids have them doing lots of wrong shit but I have no doubt in any of y'alls ability to handle your lives on your own.

OK, why the hell am I saying y'all?
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

my kids already have a father that supports them and hes a good father..when i am ready to look i will look for a partner for me NOT a father figure or someone to support my and my kids!!!!! GRRRRR

babooshleeky said:

Schleekness, don't panic! I have faith in you

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

i know this thread just has me mad..i will leave now and go have dinner with my kids heehee

LUV ya SUPA!!!!

babooshleeky said:

Listen, I think the simple facts are that a lot of women are looking for babydaddies - for whatever reason...but that certainly doesn't mean that all women are.

Again, I think it comes down to the kind of people you surround yourself with.

And if someone wants to lump all people together as being all the same...well, that says a lot more about the person doing the lumping than it does the person being lumped.

JustErin said:

It says they are telling the truth!

JustErin said:

Any generalization is wrong by definition, yet we all generalize all the time and only choose to prove it wrong when it's about a sensitive subject...but that just my very humble opinion. I'm sure some will claim to never generalize.

eikonoklastes said:

It's a righteous mantra Everyone does at some point but nobody wants to appear or be guilty of it.

eikonoklastes said:

Oh sure. I generalize. I'm not going to claim I've never done it. I don't care. Will you please answer the question I have? I want to know why you call women bitches? Are you joking?

eikonoklastes said:

First off, I never claimed that generalizing isn't done by all of us at some point. The difference is that some of us learn along the way that making sweeping generalizations makes us look pretty ignorant...and then of course, some of us don't ever seem to learn anything because we are never willing to look at ourselves as part of the problem.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

u're not the only one seeing it.... alot of females are doing it

JustErin said:

Thank you. Great point.

Flowerz said:

Yup, I know someone who has her boyfriend taking care of her, her 3 kids from a previous relationship and a child they have between the two of them. She doesnt have to work at all, he pretty much gives all of them what ever they want but she has to put it with so much of his crap!
Sucks for her, all because she cant get her self out there and work herself!!!
I would hate!!! to be that dependent on a man

Like it or not, these are the secret feelings of a lot of guys. Loudmouths like Eikano of course, can't keep their big mouth's shut

hokie said:

More or less. Contrary to what people sometimes think when they read my posts, I'm not an angry person or whatever. It's mostly just entertainment. There's some truth to what I'm saying as well though. That's the way I'm looking at the stuff Supa's saying. I find it hilarious, but I do get the more serious undertone and he does make some great points.

eikonoklastes said:

Well you might as well just put it all on my shoulders cuz this little gay dude is the most dangerous thing to women around here. haven't you heard?

eikonoklastes said:

OK...fair enough. Thanks.

veronikka said:

Well, I actually agree with you here. I was in a marriage for 12 years and I stayed home to raise our children. I don't regret it because I feel it was the best decision. But, now having gone through a very ugly divorce I will never again be financially dependent on a man. Never.

AlienX2050 said:

That's really unfair if you find the woman you want to spend the rest of your life with. It's also discriminatory. And since you don't want a woman who has kids that shows you are not ready to have a family let alone settle down. Enjoy sowing your wild oats and use protection

A woman would rather keep her kids than give them up for a some guy who is not willing to help raise them in a blended family setting.

Her and the kids are all part of the package deal.

luv4u said:

You know what? Let's not even get into that discussion! There are women out there who put their man ahead of their kids. Those women are demented. None of those demented broads are in this thread though. Thought I'd say that so I can live another day

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Not even. It's not even secret feelings. Lots of dudes that are single say the same things.

I just don't come across them.

veronikka said:

yeah.. that's a rough situation

i think though the author of this thread is being unfair... to say 'not' to date a woman with kids is not right.. all moms are not in the same boat.. you cant judge all mothers by what a few women are doing (as far as saying they want a baby daddy.. all women dont do this)..... but u're right Supa, alot of guys 'do' think like this ... i dont know if anybody remembers a thread awhile back (Zombie started it) about.. would u date someone with kids? there were some surprising responses..