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PrintableSupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Now it's 10 years later and this freak is still terrorizing my family, my sister and the kids. Is that your idea of the right choice? How is this a Godly situation? Wouldn't it be more Godly to prevent this situation from even happening? Let's not even talk about how many problems these kids will have in their lives becuase of this abuse.
Have you told or will you tell these kids that it's better they've never been born? How about the mother get a restraining order, or offer the kids up for adoption, or place them in foster care, or ask for an investigation by the social services department, or file a police report about the rape and abuse, or get up and secretly move to protect the safety and sanity of the family, or see if other friends and family will step in to help out -- support her while she works on getting away from this creep, be witnesses in court, help raise and support the children, etc. True, the children do not deserve a life like this, but abortion is not the answer. The Democratic Party has set up many programs to aid families in need -- if these aren't working, then we should be writing to our congress-persons about these things. There has to be a better way. | |
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Jasziah said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Now it's 10 years later and this freak is still terrorizing my family, my sister and the kids. Is that your idea of the right choice? How is this a Godly situation? Wouldn't it be more Godly to prevent this situation from even happening? Let's not even talk about how many problems these kids will have in their lives becuase of this abuse.
Have you told or will you tell these kids that it's better they've never been born? How about the mother get a restraining order, or offer the kids up for adoption, or place them in foster care, or ask for an investigation by the social services department, or file a police report about the rape and abuse, or get up and secretly move to protect the safety and sanity of the family, or see if other friends and family will step in to help out -- support her while she works on getting away from this creep, be witnesses in court, help raise and support the children, etc. True, the children do not deserve a life like this, but abortion is not the answer. The Democratic Party has set up many programs to aid families in need -- if these aren't working, then we should be writing to our congress-persons about these things. There has to be a better way. I have never and would never tell them that I wish they weren't born. I AM taking an active role in helping to raise them and make sure that they receive the proper love and attention. My sister IS working on getting away from this creep. With that said, I still don't believe that THIS was the answer. It might be for you but I refuse to believe that this is the more Godly choice. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: What are YOU doing to insure the protection of the lives of the babies once they are here. I'm sure you aren't doing a goddamned thing except blabbing on and on...
Why are you making this personal? You don't know me, and I don't know. We're talking issues here that involve more people than just you and me. But to answer your question, in my own little world, I do a lot of work with teens, and even work with kids from diapers all the way up through college, plugging them into different areas according to their dreams, goals, and potential. I work with youth in radio, television, and music. I'm involved in the local political scene, and am behind a lot of programs to encourage kids to be the best they can be. This year we started three new radio shows run by and for teens. We also started a local battle of the bands which takes place every month and has a grand finale each summer. We also make sure teens get all the info they need regarding local events and activities that encourage them to develop their gifts and talents, helping them reach their goals and get into hobbies and careers that they love. All of this goes toward making a better world. We are also hard at work connecting our children's and youth programs and organizations with all others in the community and region. Things are getting better and better because of all this. So, yeah, I feel like I'm doing the best I can do at the moment, and am working on doing even better. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I have never and would never tell them that I wish they weren't born. I AM taking an active role in helping to raise them and make sure that they receive the proper love and attention. My sister IS working on getting away from this creep. With that said, I still don't believe that THIS was the answer. It might be for you but I refuse to believe that this is the more Godly choice.
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Jasziah said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: What are YOU doing to insure the protection of the lives of the babies once they are here. I'm sure you aren't doing a goddamned thing except blabbing on and on...
Why are you making this personal? You don't know me, and I don't know. We're talking issues here that involve more people than just you and me. But to answer your question, in my own little world, I do a lot of work with teens, and even work with kids from diapers all the way up through college, plugging them into different areas according to their dreams, goals, and potential. I work with youth in radio, television, and music. I'm involved in the local political scene, and am behind a lot of programs to encourage kids to be the best they can be. This year we started three new radio shows run by and for teens. We also started a local battle of the bands which takes place every month and has a grand finale each summer. We also make sure teens get all the info they need regarding local events and activities that encourage them to develop their gifts and talents, helping them reach their goals and get into hobbies and careers that they love. All of this goes toward making a better world. We are also hard at work connecting our children's and youth programs and organizations with all others in the community and region. Things are getting better and better because of all this. So, yeah, I feel like I'm doing the best I can do at the moment, and am working on doing even better. I'm taking this personal because of the insistence to take away people's freedoms. I'm glad to hear that you are actively involved and can back up your statements. Most people I've known only campaing to have the baby born and then *poof* like air, nowhere to be found to deal with the aftermath. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Jasziah, althought I disagree with your views on the topic of reproductive choice, the works & efforts that you mentioned are extremely admirable. It's always a tremendous pleasure to hear about people who work to make things better, even when they are strangers online.
OrganGrinder, that's an awful story about your sister; I hadn't heard it before. My condolences, for the little that they are worth.  I hope those kids have a bright future, no matter what struggles are holding them down now."Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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KingSausage said: Jasziah, althought I disagree with your views on the topic of reproductive choice, the works & efforts that you mentioned are extremely admirable. It's always a tremendous pleasure to hear about people who work to make things better, even when they are strangers online.
OrganGrinder, that's an awful story about your sister; I hadn't heard it before. My condolences, for the little that they are worth. I hope those kids have a bright future, no matter what struggles are holding them down now.Thank you King. Despite the anger I have over the situation, I'm a GREAT Uncle to them. They have my love and support as does my sister. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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KingSausage said: OrganGrinder, that's an awful story about your sister; I hadn't heard it before. My condolences, for the little that they are worth.
I hope those kids have a bright future, no matter what struggles are holding them down now.I second that. I wish you and your family nothing but the best, organgrinder... | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Thank you King. Despite the anger I have over the situation, I'm a GREAT Uncle to them. They have my love and support as does my sister.
You are a great uncle to them...(And I don't mean you're their "Great Uncle"...ha ha ha ha oh fuck that was a lame joke). Sadly, without women controlling their own bodies, many children will be born into unloving situations with NO great uncles, no great aunts, no money, etc. Reproductive choice is important. It is hand-in-hand with the true meaning of "freedom." It's funny that so many Republicans, and their centrist buddies in the DFL, try to strip away all funding from any organization that even talks about abortion...yet at the SAME TIME refuse to increase funding for proper sex education in our schools, choosing instead to cram their fundamentalist Christian agenda & values down our throats. If you don't want people to have abortions, work on making it so they can choose NOT to have them. Better sex education. Better health care with birth control coverage. Expanded research into reproductive options. Don't try to make it so they CAN'T legally get them. There are smarter answers. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Who's the jerky that labelled me a republican at the beginning of this thread? Whew, the only thing that sucks more than the actual GOP is being labelled as one of them.
Here's my take on a few important issues facing all of us, and the corresponding view of our two main parties: Guns
Religion
Environment
Racism
Homosexuality
Economic advantage
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it's hard to respect someone whose party loves guns, wants to trash the environment for short term needs, preaches fundamentalist religious hate speech, supports racist policies, condemns gays, and conspires to evade taxation for pure greed (as opposed to hating taxes because for idealogical resons). The dems aren't perfect, but at least I don't have to be embarrassed by the basic party platform. I adored President Clinton. He may be the most intellectually capable person to hold that office in the past 50 years. By contrast, George Bush Jr is a mental midget, completely lacking the legal, economic, historical, and international foundation of database to run a small christian college, let alone this country. Yes, the republicans swept this mid-term election, but it doesn't make their agenda good for the country or the world. They have 2 years to really screw things up. I predict that they will. "When they tell me 2 walk a straight line, I put on crooked shoes" | |
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TheMax said: Who's the jerky that labelled me a republican at the beginning of this thread? Whew, the only thing that sucks more than the actual GOP is being labelled as one of them.
maybe i got my orgeres mixed up...but who is the idiot around here that keeps defending Dubya's war mongering? | |
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Organgrinder is truly The Magnificent, isn't he? Congratulations in showing such courage and determination. | |
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2the9s said: Republicans suck ass.
DavidEye said: During every election cycle,they put up this phony-ass front about being "exclusionary" and wanting everybody to be a part of their "big tent".
You mean inclusive, David. TheMax, you broke it down. 
TheMax said: I adored President Clinton. He may be the most intellectually capable person to hold that office in the past 50 years.
Interesting. This is the same thing that Ted Koppel said a couple of years ago. Not verbatim, but in essence. Cut... [This message was edited Wed Nov 6 21:35:19 PST 2002 by Supernova] This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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they are anti-abortion, anti-women, anti-black, anti-gay, anti-lottery, pro-semi automatic, pro-christianity, pro-war
thats why i vote democratic i don't want 'special' rights just equal rights ---------------------------------
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TheMax said: Who's the jerky that labelled me a republican at the beginning of this thread? Whew, the only thing that sucks more than the actual GOP is being labelled as one of them.
Here's my take on a few important issues facing all of us, and the corresponding view of our two main parties: Guns
Religion
Environment
Racism
Homosexuality
Economic advantage
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it's hard to respect someone whose party loves guns, wants to trash the environment for short term needs, preaches fundamentalist religious hate speech, supports racist policies, condemns gays, and conspires to evade taxation for pure greed (as opposed to hating taxes because for idealogical resons). The dems aren't perfect, but at least I don't have to be embarrassed by the basic party platform. I adored President Clinton. He may be the most intellectually capable person to hold that office in the past 50 years. By contrast, George Bush Jr is a mental midget, completely lacking the legal, economic, historical, and international foundation of database to run a small christian college, let alone this country. Yes, the republicans swept this mid-term election, but it doesn't make their agenda good for the country or the world. They have 2 years to really screw things up. I predict that they will. EXCELLENT POST!!! This pretty much sums up my feelings about the Republican Party.Thanks alot,Max! | |
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"I looked the word "Republican" up in the dictionary and I noticed that it's right between the words "reptile" and "repugnant".---quote by Julia Roberts
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Nothing if that's how you feel.Do what works for you.I personally ain't too fond of either party but at least the dems tell me the will try to improve my situation.Republicans come across a war,and big business.
And since Bush has taken office the topics are WAR,and Big Business(corruption).Remember the ENRON JET was Dubya's to travel around in to campain for president. | |
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Great post, TheMax. 
Here, have a treat  | |
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The Max is my new God.
I hope such a sentiment doesn't offend any Republicans. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Thank you everyone for your support and thank you everyone for breaking down the REAL reasons why the Republican party is wrong for us. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Jeez... if I were a Republican, I surely wouldn't come out of the woodwork now! lol...
Thanks for everyone's thoughts on this. Even though I don't like to discuss politics and I'm not really into it, I really enjoyed reading this thread. | |
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My additions to TheMax's list:
Guns
Religion
Environment
Racism
Homosexuality
Economic advantage
SUPERJOINT RITUAL - http://www.superjointritual.com
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It's fairly well known (I hope) that Libertarians support lower taxes. I believe the party platform even calls for a flat tax, a concept which while very popular with real people is very unpopular with both Republicans and Democrats in congress.
My question is...are Libertarians real supply-siders? They should be...but I haven't heard it pushed lately. Everyone's too scared of being accused of "trickle-down" economics, which is unforntunate, because the shit really works. Maybe we need to give everyone a quick run-down of the laffer curve. Fear is the mind-killer. | |
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Hey there, Libertarians...
Have you guys ever read any of Wendy Kaminer's books (like Sleeping With Extra-Terrestrials or Free For All)? "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry | |
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