I didn't see "part" in there.....

I'm not one for marriage either...not that I am not for long term committed relationships - I am. I'm just convinced that the majority of us have no business making promises we simply can't keep.

Listen, I know guys who are married who barely ever get to have sex with their wives. The women just don't want to have it at all. There's the excuse that they are tired, and blah blah blah...trust me, I know all about the difficulties with being a mommy. But to have the attitude that sex is something that is not an important part of your marriage is ridiculous...and quite honestly unfair.

And sometimes it's not even about sex. People have emotional affairs on each other all the time. It's about not getting a need met and sometimes a spouse flat out refuses to meet that need when they are talked to about it. I know someone going through this right now.

Again, I am not saying that cheating is right. I'm not saying that it doesn't cause heartache and doesn't destroy families...I'm just saying that in many cases the family was already pretty much destroyed before the spouse had an affair. People always are so quick to blame the cheater and label them someone who does not care about the feelings of others, well the wife or husband that is rationing sex or whatever it is isn't caring about the feelings of their spouse as well. But hey, no one ever really dares to say that about the situation.

Of course, there are some people who are just jerks with no regard for other's feelings.

then there should be an end to someone taking half or all possessions in a divorce IMO - that shit is rank

Whatever. does it change your response in any way?

What the hell does that have to do with what I said?

Like I said, I'm not one for marriage. Don't believe in it at all.

cheating is a fools way of testing the obvious

you risk losing the best thing ever

4ever

Are you just assuming that the man is the one cheating? Not in my experience.

cheating is a fools way of testing the obvious

you risk losing the best thing ever

4ever

I have been in the salon industry for 22 years and meet hundreds of new woman in each. 90% of the time the reoccurring theme in woman who become mistresses is that they are buried under incredibly low self esteem and massive piles of insecurity.

Whats all this about women who get married suddenly start witholding sex as if that somehow justifies cheating. YOu dont become dead from the waist down just because you get married, what a joke.

Whats all this about women who get married suddenly start witholding sex as if that somehow justifies cheating. YOu dont become dead from the waist down just because you get married, what a joke.

Whats all this about women who get married suddenly start witholding sex as if that somehow justifies cheating. YOu dont become dead from the waist down just because you get married, what a joke.

some women might think that is a good way to get back at their loser husband for all the shit they have to put up with! (I'm only speculating here)

No, they always been dead for the waist down, but they will use a sex to trick a man into marriage. As soon as they got your ass the fun stops.

That can happen in any kind of relationship, not just marriage. I know its not a bed of roses, marriage takes work and two people working at it, that means both of them taking responsibility, but wives get such a bashing on this thread...its hilarious. If the shoe was on the other foot it would be great to see how the cheating goes down then, i.e youre the wife and not the mistress.

interesting you should say this (what any professional marriage counsellor will tell you) but there are a hell of a lot of people that believe "true love" just happens and needs no work.

(sorry straying from discussion)

there are a lot of reasons so-called wives lose interest in sex WITH THEIR HUSBAND. One of which is, once HE reveals his true nature, he ceases to be attractive. All that help with the washing up was just for show, to trick a woman into marriage

I don't think cheating is exclusive to the menfolk. Lets explore the reasons why husbands are to blame for their cheating wives shall we?
they let themselves go and grow beerbellies and manboobs?
they work late all the time so they don't have to help with the kids?
they watch a lot of footy?

IMO all relationships require work, to think they dont is a beautiful thing but frankly delusional.

I just dont think anything justifies it (cheating) and Its not surprising to me that the other woman tries to rationalize it by saying that "she wasnt taking care of her man, so I did!"

of course!
AND I must say it is very interesting to hear those who have affairs with married people say that they themselves were doing nothing wrong, it isn't THEM that is cheating.

some women might think that is a good way to get back at their loser husband for all the shit they have to put up with! (I'm only speculating here)

I think that the other woman or the other man also have blood on their hands and share a part of the blame in the whole infidelity triangle. The main problem is between the husband and the wife but the other man/woman isn't innocent either unless she or he had no idea that the other was married.