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Thread started 05/31/08 4:48am

babynoz

Some advice needed!

About a week ago we got the bad news that my kitty, Fred has kidney failure which is incurable in cats. .

We rushed the poor thing to the vet on his last legs. Within a week he had lost so much weight and gotten so weak I thought we were gonna have to put him down. My son and I cried because we just couldn't do it.

Well, after an overnight stay at the vet and medications he's feeling better. Although it's just a matter of time till the inevitable,(he's going on 17), we brought him home so he could have a bit more time with us. He didn't seem ready to give up so we're doing our best to keep him comfortable.

We've been giving him his meds plus IV fluids every day. The problem is that now he's feeling stronger and won't take his meds anymore. We have tried hiding them in his food and poking them down his throat. Even those little treats that hold the pill aren't working anymore.

He's supposed to take 3 pills a day and antibiotic drops, but he's on to all of our tricks...do you guys have any ideas???
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Reply #1 posted 05/31/08 4:50am

ThreadBare

Is it as easy to force meds to cats as it is to do so with dogs? Coax the jaw open, pop in the pill, and massage the throat gently until he/she swallows?
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Reply #2 posted 05/31/08 4:55am

Flowerz

maybe cut the pills up very tiny and then mix it with his food? aww sad im sorry he's sick
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Reply #3 posted 05/31/08 5:02am

obsessed

I had the very same thing happen to one of my cats.....
We mangaged to do the drugs, like ThreadBare said, which
gave him six more weeks, but then he suddenly stopped
allowing us to give him more drugs... he was adament about
it to the point that we couldn't for the life of us open his mouth anymore.

It was like he was telling us "Enough is enough. It's my
time to die"....and we eventually accepted that.

But do what you can...in the same token, accept the fact that his time may
just be up, as hard as it may be for you. Don't allow him to suffer in
the process.
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Reply #4 posted 05/31/08 5:05am

Lammastide

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I'm so sorry to hear this. sad
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #5 posted 05/31/08 5:07am

JuliePurplehea
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Wrap him up in a towel tightly so he can't wrestle his way out of your arms. As far as getting the pill down, I always put the pill in the side of my cat's mouth. She would try so hard to get the pill out but actually her tongue would push the pill down her throat. And once it gets to that point, it's like ThreadBare says, massage the throat to keep the pill going.

Good luck. I had to give my cat the IV and it was one of the most horrible things I had to do.
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Reply #6 posted 05/31/08 11:20am

babynoz

ThreadBare said:

Is it as easy to force meds to cats as it is to do so with dogs? Coax the jaw open, pop in the pill, and massage the throat gently until he/she swallows?


It was easy when he was weaker but now he's fighting like a cat! sad
I didn't know about massaging the throat, thanks for mentioning it.
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Reply #7 posted 05/31/08 11:27am

babynoz

Flowerz said:

maybe cut the pills up very tiny and then mix it with his food? aww sad im sorry he's sick



That worked for a few days. My son, who I can't get to do anything around here, had been faithfully nursing him like a champ, crushing pills and everything else.

thanks
hug
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Reply #8 posted 05/31/08 11:37am

babynoz

obsessed said:

I had the very same thing happen to one of my cats.....
We mangaged to do the drugs, like ThreadBare said, which
gave him six more weeks, but then he suddenly stopped
allowing us to give him more drugs... he was adament about
it to the point that we couldn't for the life of us open his mouth anymore.

It was like he was telling us "Enough is enough. It's my
time to die"....and we eventually accepted that.

But do what you can...in the same token, accept the fact that his time may
just be up, as hard as it may be for you. Don't allow him to suffer in
the process.


I'm thinking maybe that's the case because last night he was especially resistant to the point where his heart was racing and he just dropped his head. We had to leave him alone for a while so he could calm down.

I'm determined not to let him suffer so I will let him go when the time comes...even though it'll be one of the hardest things I've ever had to do. I'm still hoping he can go quietly in his sleep. sad
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #9 posted 05/31/08 11:41am

babynoz

Lammastide said:

I'm so sorry to hear this. sad


Thank you, hug
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Reply #10 posted 05/31/08 11:43am

babynoz

JuliePurplehead said:

Wrap him up in a towel tightly so he can't wrestle his way out of your arms. As far as getting the pill down, I always put the pill in the side of my cat's mouth. She would try so hard to get the pill out but actually her tongue would push the pill down her throat. And once it gets to that point, it's like ThreadBare says, massage the throat to keep the pill going.

Good luck. I had to give my cat the IV and it was one of the most horrible things I had to do.


The IV has actually been easier to do...thanks for the suggestions.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #11 posted 05/31/08 7:26pm

psychodelicide

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ThreadBare said:

Is it as easy to force meds to cats as it is to do so with dogs? Coax the jaw open, pop in the pill, and massage the throat gently until he/she swallows?


nod That's how my dad had to give a pill to our family cat. He made it look so easy. My mom and I could never give the cat his pill. I can't even give my cats pills when they need it. Luckily, so far, they have been healthy.

Babynoz, sorry to hear about your kitty's illness. I lost a cat due to kidney failure a few years back, and it's never easy. Kidney failure is so common in elderly cats, it's ashame there is no cure for it. sigh sad
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #12 posted 05/31/08 7:50pm

obsessed

babynoz said:

obsessed said:

I had the very same thing happen to one of my cats.....
We mangaged to do the drugs, like ThreadBare said, which
gave him six more weeks, but then he suddenly stopped
allowing us to give him more drugs... he was adament about
it to the point that we couldn't for the life of us open his mouth anymore.

It was like he was telling us "Enough is enough. It's my
time to die"....and we eventually accepted that.

But do what you can...in the same token, accept the fact that his time may
just be up, as hard as it may be for you. Don't allow him to suffer in
the process.


I'm thinking maybe that's the case because last night he was especially resistant to the point where his heart was racing and he just dropped his head. We had to leave him alone for a while so he could calm down.

I'm determined not to let him suffer so I will let him go when the time comes...even though it'll be one of the hardest things I've ever had to do. I'm still hoping he can go quietly in his sleep. sad


It is hard...I had to put my cat to sleep...in the end, Toby was almost
begging me with his eyes to "do something"...he could just barely walk
anymore.

Whatever takes place for you, I wish you strength and love... hug
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Reply #13 posted 05/31/08 9:45pm

babynoz

psychodelicide said:

ThreadBare said:

Is it as easy to force meds to cats as it is to do so with dogs? Coax the jaw open, pop in the pill, and massage the throat gently until he/she swallows?


nod That's how my dad had to give a pill to our family cat. He made it look so easy. My mom and I could never give the cat his pill. I can't even give my cats pills when they need it. Luckily, so far, they have been healthy.

Babynoz, sorry to hear about your kitty's illness. I lost a cat due to kidney failure a few years back, and it's never easy. Kidney failure is so common in elderly cats, it's ashame there is no cure for it. sigh sad


Thanks, it ain't easy, that's for sure.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #14 posted 05/31/08 9:46pm

babynoz

obsessed said:

babynoz said:



I'm thinking maybe that's the case because last night he was especially resistant to the point where his heart was racing and he just dropped his head. We had to leave him alone for a while so he could calm down.

I'm determined not to let him suffer so I will let him go when the time comes...even though it'll be one of the hardest things I've ever had to do. I'm still hoping he can go quietly in his sleep. sad


It is hard...I had to put my cat to sleep...in the end, Toby was almost
begging me with his eyes to "do something"...he could just barely walk
anymore.

Whatever takes place for you, I wish you strength and love... hug



hug
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #15 posted 05/31/08 9:57pm

psychodelicide

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babynoz said:

psychodelicide said:



nod That's how my dad had to give a pill to our family cat. He made it look so easy. My mom and I could never give the cat his pill. I can't even give my cats pills when they need it. Luckily, so far, they have been healthy.

Babynoz, sorry to hear about your kitty's illness. I lost a cat due to kidney failure a few years back, and it's never easy. Kidney failure is so common in elderly cats, it's ashame there is no cure for it. sigh sad


Thanks, it ain't easy, that's for sure.


nod I know exactly what you mean.
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #16 posted 05/31/08 10:06pm

NastradumasKid

psychodelicide said:

babynoz said:



Thanks, it ain't easy, that's for sure.


nod I know exactly what you mean.



Don't worry hug everythings gonna be okay I took care of this kitty (it was so young could barely walk) it died I blamed myself and couldn't stop crying that night it's hard to lose a companion (even if I only had him for a week) sad
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Reply #17 posted 06/05/08 11:53am

Flowerz

babynoz said:

Flowerz said:

maybe cut the pills up very tiny and then mix it with his food? aww sad im sorry he's sick



That worked for a few days. My son, who I can't get to do anything around here, had been faithfully nursing him like a champ, crushing pills and everything else.

thanks
hug


hug yes, i hope he gets wells sad ...i love cats mushy fallinluv
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