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Thread started 05/30/08 12:31am

SCNDLS

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Grapevine student with top grades won't be valedictorian

Sorry to say, this is near where I live. disbelief


Grapevine High School senior Anjali Datta holds the highest grade-point average of the 471 students graduating from Grapevine High School this year. In fact, Grapevine-Colleyville ISD officials believe her GPA of 5.898 may be the highest in the high school's history.

It's still not enough to make her the valedictorian, which brings a one-year college scholarship from the state.

Her closest competitor's GPA is 5.64. No one disputes that she's the top student in her class numerically. The problem rests with another number entirely.

Anjali rocketed through high school in only three years.

But a school district policy states: "The valedictorian shall be the eligible student with the highest weighted grade-point average for four years of high school."

The dispute over Anjali's status as valedictorian comes down to interpretation: Does four years mean calendar years of school attendance or does it mean completing the credits it takes most students four years to earn?

The 16-year-old started taking high school classes in middle school and says her teachers encouraged her to graduate a year early because she had more than enough credits for graduation.

She said a counselor assured her that doing so wouldn't affect her valedictorian status because she earned her four years of high school credit in the district's schools. Officials had no comment about what a counselor may have said.

The policy was created to protect students from others who might transfer into the district close to graduation and usurp the class ranking of longtime students.

Though that's not the situation in this case, the district's attorneys interpreted the policy literally.

So at graduation ceremonies, 18-year-old Tyler Scott Franklin of Colleyville will be the Grapevine High School valedictorian.

Anjali will be "Valedictorian – Three-Year."

District officials said the title was created for this situation.

"We're doing what we can to extend an additional honor within accordance of school board policy," said Megan Overman, a district spokeswoman. "I'm not going to say that this has been an easy situation. This is something that is new for all of us. We've not faced this situation before."

Ms. Overman said the district researched the decision for months.

"There was a lot of thought involved in this. There is no perfect answer," she said.

Anjali says she and her parents are baffled.

"I have not heard of any educational institution penalizing a student for excellence – for completing a demanding set of classes 'too quickly,' " said her father, Deepak Datta. "Anjali's experience will surely send a strong negative signal to other talented students trying to excel.

"They will most certainly be discouraged from trying to do their best – instead will be more focused on gaming the system."

On Tuesday, Grapevine High School principal Jerry Hollingsworth notified the family via e-mail of the district's position that would arrive this week by certified letter.

"The determination of valedictory honor is one that rests squarely on Grapevine-Colleyville ISD board policy," Dr. Hollingsworth wrote. "In determining an appropriate interpretation of our policy, inquiries were made to both the school district's attorney as well as an attorney at the Texas Association of School Boards.

"Both were clear in their opinions that this honor should go to a student who has four school years in his or her high school career. We are compelled to adhere to school board policy," he wrote.

So, Tyler will receive the college scholarship.

His mother, Kathy, said her family didn't raise the issue with the school district. She said someone brought the district policy to her family's attention.

"We feel obviously that the other student deserves recognition as well," she said. "Considering all of the different factors, this was a good solution."

Anjali says she's struggling to understand the move because the Texas Education Agency doesn't even mention the word "valedictorian" when defining eligibility for the college scholarship.

The state provides Texas high schools with an "Honor Graduate Certificate." The certificate is to be presented to the "highest ranking graduate" in the senior class, according to Texas Education Code.

State officials say it is the local school district's responsibility to determine the highest ranking student, and the state has no authority to get involved. At graduation June 7, Anjali will be honored for her perfect ACT score. She will be acknowledged as an honor graduate and allowed to address her classmates.

But Anjali said it still doesn't feel quite right.

"This really diminishes the value of the valedictorian title," she said.
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Reply #1 posted 05/30/08 12:33am

Stymie

That's jacked.
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Reply #2 posted 05/30/08 12:33am

ThreadBare

"Valedictorian -- Three Year" is a whole other level of achievement. I don't see the diminishment at all.
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Reply #3 posted 05/30/08 12:39am

SCNDLS

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ThreadBare said:

"Valedictorian -- Three Year" is a whole other level of achievement. I don't see the diminishment at all.

But she's not getting the scholarship.
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Reply #4 posted 05/30/08 12:41am

NDRU

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that's a lot of words
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Reply #5 posted 05/30/08 12:43am

ThreadBare

SCNDLS said:

ThreadBare said:

"Valedictorian -- Three Year" is a whole other level of achievement. I don't see the diminishment at all.

But she's not getting the scholarship.

True, but she's getting media attention, which often leads to more tangible benefits.
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Reply #6 posted 05/30/08 12:44am

evenstar3

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ThreadBare said:

SCNDLS said:


But she's not getting the scholarship.

True, but she's getting media attention, which often leads to more tangible benefits.


hopefully. it still shouldn't be policy to not give the student who's clearly achieved the most by numbers the scholarship. confused
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Reply #7 posted 05/30/08 12:44am

ZombieKitten

NDRU said:

that's a lot of words

there is good reason we didn't become valedictorians, or in my case "dux"
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Reply #8 posted 05/30/08 12:45am

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What I wanna know is how in the world does one get a 5.898???? omfg Are they using some kind of new math to get this shit cuz this NEVER happened when I was in school.
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Reply #9 posted 05/30/08 12:46am

ZombieKitten

SCNDLS said:

What I wanna know is how in the world does one get a 5.898???? omfg Are they using some kind of new math to get this shit cuz this NEVER happened when I was in school.

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Reply #10 posted 05/30/08 12:47am

ZombieKitten


I better go now confused
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Reply #11 posted 05/30/08 12:47am

NDRU

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ThreadBare said:

SCNDLS said:


But she's not getting the scholarship.

True, but she's getting media attention, which often leads to more tangible benefits.


Not to mention this person will achieve greatness no matter what!
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Reply #12 posted 05/30/08 12:48am

ThreadBare

SCNDLS said:

What I wanna know is how in the world does one get a 5.898???? omfg Are they using some kind of new math to get this shit cuz this NEVER happened when I was in school.

Tons of AP classes? My GPA only got a few points past 4.00, my best year. sigh
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Reply #13 posted 05/30/08 12:48am

NDRU

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SCNDLS said:

What I wanna know is how in the world does one get a 5.898???? omfg Are they using some kind of new math to get this shit cuz this NEVER happened when I was in school.


I know, 4.0 used to be the best, but some classes would give you an extra point, meaning you could approach 5.0. I don't understand 5.8.
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Reply #14 posted 05/30/08 12:49am

NDRU

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ZombieKitten said:

NDRU said:

that's a lot of words

there is good reason we didn't become valedictorians, or in my case "dux"


You're valedictorian of my heart!
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Reply #15 posted 05/30/08 12:50am

ZombieKitten

NDRU said:

ZombieKitten said:


there is good reason we didn't become valedictorians, or in my case "dux"


You're valedictorian of my heart!

aaaawww mushy kiss2
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Reply #16 posted 05/30/08 12:53am

SCNDLS

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NDRU said:

SCNDLS said:

What I wanna know is how in the world does one get a 5.898???? omfg Are they using some kind of new math to get this shit cuz this NEVER happened when I was in school.


I know, 4.0 used to be the best, but some classes would give you an extra point, meaning you could approach 5.0. I don't understand 5.8.


Damn near 5.9. omfg WTF???
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Reply #17 posted 05/30/08 12:53am

SCNDLS

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ZombieKitten said:


I better go now confused

lol disbelief
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Reply #18 posted 05/30/08 12:54am

SCNDLS

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ThreadBare said:

SCNDLS said:

What I wanna know is how in the world does one get a 5.898???? omfg Are they using some kind of new math to get this shit cuz this NEVER happened when I was in school.

Tons of AP classes? My GPA only got a few points past 4.00, my best year. sigh

geek
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Reply #19 posted 05/30/08 12:58am

JellyBean

SCNDLS said:

What I wanna know is how in the world does one get a 5.898???? omfg Are they using some kind of new math to get this shit cuz this NEVER happened when I was in school.


I know that's right. I remember kids getting 4.10 GPAs, but not the 5.898. Wow that is awesome.
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Reply #20 posted 05/30/08 1:07am

JasmineFire

what the hell kinda grade inflation is going on at that school. GPA's aren't suppose to be higher than 4.0. Any point above that is just fake.

that's right, fake.


however, this girl has the highest GPA in her class AND finished high school in 3 years...she definitely deserves a scholarship for that. nod
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Reply #21 posted 05/30/08 1:10am

Stymie

JasmineFire said:

what the hell kinda grade inflation is going on at that school. GPA's aren't suppose to be higher than 4.0. Any point above that is just fake.

that's right, fake.


however, this girl has the highest GPA in her class AND finished high school in 3 years...she definitely deserves a scholarship for that. nod
falloff

Our high school was on a 5 point scale.
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Reply #22 posted 05/30/08 1:12am

JasmineFire

Stymie said:

JasmineFire said:

what the hell kinda grade inflation is going on at that school. GPA's aren't suppose to be higher than 4.0. Any point above that is just fake.

that's right, fake.


however, this girl has the highest GPA in her class AND finished high school in 3 years...she definitely deserves a scholarship for that. nod
falloff

Our high school was on a 5 point scale.

eek

fake!
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Reply #23 posted 05/30/08 1:13am

Stymie

JasmineFire said:

Stymie said:

falloff

Our high school was on a 5 point scale.

eek

fake!
spit
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Reply #24 posted 05/30/08 2:14am

JasmineFire

Stymie said:

JasmineFire said:


eek

fake!
spit

lol
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Reply #25 posted 05/30/08 2:35am

ThreadBare

SCNDLS said:

ThreadBare said:


Tons of AP classes? My GPA only got a few points past 4.00, my best year. sigh

geek

Hey! mad I'm smart. I know stuff. Like "conundrum" -- you don't hear that kinda English every day. hmph!
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Reply #26 posted 05/30/08 2:45am

Lammastide

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SCNDLS said:

ThreadBare said:


Tons of AP classes? My GPA only got a few points past 4.00, my best year. sigh

geek

Exactly.
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μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #27 posted 05/30/08 4:23am

SCNDLS

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ThreadBare said:

SCNDLS said:


geek

Hey! mad I'm smart. I know stuff. Like "conundrum" -- you don't hear that kinda English every day. hmph!

I KNOW you're smart, but lamenting that you ONLY had a 4.00 is kinda geek-y. giggle j/k . . . . I'm kinda jealous boxed
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Reply #28 posted 05/30/08 5:28am

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IF GIRL SO SMART

WHY SHE NOT KNOW RULE?

POOK OUT

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Reply #29 posted 05/30/08 6:23am

SUPRMAN

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SCNDLS said:

ThreadBare said:

"Valedictorian -- Three Year" is a whole other level of achievement. I don't see the diminishment at all.

But she's not getting the scholarship.


Do you think she won't get a full ride to any school of her choice?
Especially after this.

Making her valedictorian is like seating delegates from Michigan and Florida.
The valedictorian has to do four years. She only has three.
Go be valedictorian at UC Berkeley, Harvard, Stanford, Yale or wherever.
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