purplesweat said:

I'm not sure if Annie's involved at all, but it seems clear that Charlotte is the daughter of someone from Dharma.


In all likelihood, he told her about his daughter, Clementine. It seems pretty obvious that's where Kate was going in that previous flashforward. Hell, she had already (unwittingly) begun a relationship with Cassie.


I couldn't disagree more. The only important vision of Desmond's we didn't see was the one with Claire and Aaron being rescued. Desmond had been breaking his neck trying to save Charlie. When he realized it was futile, I think he made up the vision to give Charlie piece of mind. And remember, he had actually decided to save Charlie again by going down to the Looking Glass himself. Instead, Charlie knocked him out, but Des went down there as soon as he woke up. I can't even believe you'd think of Desmond as selfish. He allowed Charlie to go out on his own terms -- as a hero.


I'm not sure. When Jack says goodbye, he said, "Don't let 'em find you, Desmond." I'm thinking he means Widmore. Of course, the interesting part is that Ben will be looking for them as well (and, since he wants to kill Penelope, he's the more dangerous of the two).
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purplesweat said:

Richard and Tom were able to leave the island, so it's conceivable that Locke could as well. I doubt he was paralyzed and I really doubt he committed suicide.


Desmond would've worked. He would've been under an alias and/or Ben could've gotten to Penny. He was my #1 suspect during the second hour until Jack said that Jeremy mentioned things going badly after they left the island.


They focused on Hurley right after Frank mentioned needing to lose a couple hundred pounds. I think Sawyer was protecting Hurley one last time by making the decision to jump. Can I just say how much of an ass this makes Jack? I know he was drugged and paranoid, but he told Kate that Sawyer "made his decision to stay" and that he [Jack] was the one who saved her. OMG! Sawyer's decision helped save them all! Damn, Jack!


In the present, a lot of people are believed dead. Locke probably believes his friends died on the freighter while Sawyer, Juliet, and Daniel should've all seen it blow up.


Because it was already 2005 at that point. Remember, Desmond called Penny on Christmas Eve 2004.


That's exactly what I think. Of course, keep in mind he mentioned moving the rabbit "100 milliseconds in four-dimensional space." That heavily implies the island has moved in time (and probably space).


The Penny and Desmond relationship has always been better written, acted, and sold than all of the others combined. It's the one love story that has rung true from the first mention.


Me too.


Bad ass! I love Sayid.


I think Ben did know. Didn't Kate or Sayid mention ferrying the people to the freighter? At the very least, he knew that's where the helicopter was going. At any rate, that was the funniest moment of many.


I thought it was great the way they got to use Walt. That scene was around 3 years after the crash, which means he was actually close to the correct age.


Another reason it should've been obvious it was Locke: who else would use an alias of a famous philosopher besides someone named for another famous philosopher?


My initial thought from last year was that Christian is Jacob. They haven't exactly convinced me otherwise, but it'd be interesting if Jacob were, say, Aaron. Either way, what the hell is up with everyone seeing Christian? He's been connected to, met, or appeared before Jack, Claire, Sawyer, Ana Lucia, Hurley, Locke, Vincent, Miles, and now Michael.


Well, they inadvertently took Christian there on 815.

Maybe, but it's not really like the writers to bring a character into the show if they aren't important in some way. Annie, or her story, could turn out to be very important as to why Ben is the way he is today..



I guess, I'd love if it were something no one could guess though. Like how everyone was SO sure it was Ben in the coffin, but I always kinda knew they could never kill off someone as important as him now. I was right. Sorry, I'm gonna be gloating about that every chance I get now



Des went down because Mikhail was shooting at him. Who knows if he would've still gone down if Mikhail hadn't been there. What would be the point?

AND Desmond did run off as soon as John and Jack appeared in the hatch and were willing to push the button. Everyone forgets that.

As if Des wouldn't force Jin to come with him to the deck of the freighter. It was weird that Jin wanted to stay so badly.



I thought he just meant anyone suspicious about the Oceanic 6's story. But yeah, I am very curious as to how the whole Ben/Penny/Desmond story is going to turn out.

purplesweat said:

Because Mikhail was coming for Charlie! Desmond was instrumental in rescuing Charlie -- again -- and unjamming the signal.


I didn't forget it; I just can't see how you can fault the guy for wanting a break after pushing the button for 2 years.


Well, Jin really wanted to defuse the bomb and he thought he could do it.


As am I. As I'm sure you can tell, Desmond is my favorite character. I still find it odd that he and Ben have never had a scene together. I keep thinking that's important in some way.

purplesweat said:

I initially thought it was Michael more so than Ben. Regardless, I don't think it's that big a deal. Locke is just as important as Ben. Between the flashbacks and flashforwards, this death doesn't mean the character will be gone. Something tells me Locke will have a big part in both S5 and S6.

AlexdeParis, you seem like you watch your Lost with eagle eyes. Can you explain the Oceanic 6's reason for lying? I really don't get it.

MendesCity said:

Well, I think their reasoning is pretty sound. Very few people know about the island. Yes, Widmore knows about it, but they have a much better chance of protecting it and the people they left behind if they keep as many people in the dark as possible. I think Ben explained it best last season. He told Locke that thousands of people flocked to Florida to see a piece of mold that allegedly had the face of Jesus; then he asked how many more people would want to come to an island that cured his paralysis (among other things). Also, look at Sun's meeting with Widmore. The Oceanic 6 are on to him now, so perhaps they can strike back or use him to their advantage.

AlexdeParis said:

Thanks, that's definitely more eloquent than the show put it! But I'm not sure I'm totally convinced. The island's moved and the O6 don't even know where it is anymore. Wouldn't it save everyone a lot of grief to be like "look, here's what happened, it sounds unbelievable, our friends are still on it, the world should try to figure out where they are." But I guess part of it is that everyone on the island has sort of been compromised by the allure/powers of the island.

I'm betting Sun is using Widmore because she thinks he's the only one that can find it, and she wants to see if maybe Jin survived.

I finally saw this last sunday and wanted to discuss this with everyone here. Then the org shuts down like forever. Now the Lost finale is so May 2008.




Anyway, I think Sun is teaming up with Widmore because she blames both Ben and Jack for the death of Jin (I guess maybe she found out about why the freighter exploded).
[Edited 6/5/08 10:35am]

This finale was another great one but of course did not really have such an WTF??? moment like last year's had. But I'm curious about that wheel. Who put it there? What exactly does it do? I don't really know if they can come up with a satisfiying explanation for me because this time travel aspect isn't really my favorite part of the show but it's still all good.

Sawyer is a lucky basterd.....now he gets to Juliette on the moved island without Jack being around!

abierman said:

I REALLY hope they don't do the Juliet/Sawyer love thing all the fans seem to be hinting at.

Since when does sitting on a beach = a relationship?

Anyway, if Sawyer loves Kate enough to sacrifice a life off the island with her then why would he just randomly and foolishly hook up with Juliet who loved Jack anyway?

Stupid idea.

AND Kate will be back eventually, then what!?

purplesweat said:

I really don't care either way, because the Desmond/Penny romance is the only one that really interests me. That being said, I think Sawyer sacrificed his place on the helicopter to save everyone, not just Kate. They've made a point this season of showing him being very protective of Hurley (and Claire) in particular. Besides, he's already mentioned that he doesn't have much of a life waiting for him off the island.

AlexdeParis said:

Duh, but he didn't give either of them a mind blowing smooch and ask them to find his daughter.

Just sayin'.

I don't think you have to keep debunking all of my theories.

purplesweat said: