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Thread started 05/27/08 4:58pm

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No Country For Old Men - No Sir I didn't Like it!

I watched this movie this weekend. For most of it, it was good. I had no idea what it was all about but heard it was a pretty bleak movie. As I was watching it, it seemed more of a quiet thriller like Fargo. I was annoyed with HOW the main character makes a stupid mistake by going back to the scene and thus propelling the rest of the plot. For me that's hard to watch, but the movie went along and I was genuinely on the edge of my seat.

However....

Once Louellen gets killed...from that moment the movie falls apart. I had to actually rewind the part where you see him dead. I can't believe that his death was so unsatisfactory and wasn't shown. Then I was left wondering "What Now? Only to find out there was no more to the story except that LAME dialog Tommy Lee has at the end (What was his purpose anyway?) Honestly I was so disappointed with the ending it ruined the rest of it for me.

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Reply #1 posted 05/27/08 5:10pm

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I thought the movie was awesome up until the end. I'm starting to tire of these films with all these unusual plot twists. It was fun and fresh for a while but I would like to see a happy ending again. In this day and age the whole "bad-guy gets away with it" just seems so wrong...
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Reply #2 posted 05/27/08 5:18pm

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RenHoek said:

I thought the movie was awesome up until the end. I'm starting to tire of these films with all these unusual plot twists. It was fun and fresh for a while but I would like to see a happy ending again. In this day and age the whole "bad-guy gets away with it" just seems so wrong...


I too tire of the twist that makes the whole movie seem to be nothing...like you watch a whole movie only to have the whole thing turn upon itself in a non-sensical or logical fashion. Vanilla Sky: Kiss my ass!

But for me it wasn't a twist with this movie. It sort of non-ended. If it had ended with the shot of him dead at the end, I'd be a tad disappointed that it was anti-climatic. For me ti was that the movie plodded on for really no reason.

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Reply #3 posted 05/27/08 5:20pm

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Yeah

was on my loser list of movies
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Reply #4 posted 05/27/08 5:48pm

Stymie

RenHoek said:

I thought the movie was awesome up until the end. I'm starting to tire of these films with all these unusual plot twists. It was fun and fresh for a while but I would like to see a happy ending again. In this day and age the whole "bad-guy gets away with it" just seems so wrong...
I totally agree with you.
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Reply #5 posted 05/27/08 5:54pm

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speaking of bad endings, i HATED the ending for Number23.

the craptastic writers and directors used the cheapest of all tricks known - they kept the audience in the dark about an absolutely crucial plot factor until literally the very end of the movie.

namely, had we KNOWN FROM THE START that he had amnesia, the rest of the movie would have been a no-brainer.

boo. thumbs down, motherfuckers

ok. thanks for listening. carry on smile
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Reply #6 posted 05/27/08 5:55pm

Stymie

XxAxX said:

speaking of bad endings, i HATED the ending for Number23.

the craptastic writers and directors used the cheapest of all tricks known - they kept the audience in the dark about an absolutely crucial plot factor until literally the very end of the movie.

namely, had we KNOWN FROM THE START that he had amnesia, the rest of the movie would have been a no-brainer.

boo. thumbs down, motherfuckers

ok. thanks for listening. carry on smile
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Reply #7 posted 05/27/08 5:58pm

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Stymie said:

XxAxX said:

speaking of bad endings, i HATED the ending for Number23.

the craptastic writers and directors used the cheapest of all tricks known - they kept the audience in the dark about an absolutely crucial plot factor until literally the very end of the movie.

namely, had we KNOWN FROM THE START that he had amnesia, the rest of the movie would have been a no-brainer.

boo. thumbs down, motherfuckers

ok. thanks for listening. carry on smile
falloff


redface well, really. mad they strung us along and strung us along until at the very end they mention like, 'oh yeah, by the way, the main character had amnesia the entire time' eek

that's CHEATING. mad lol
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Reply #8 posted 05/27/08 6:04pm

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I loved it, even with the unusual ending. It's like reading something in the paper about a mysterious murder and then never get to hear how the story ended....because they never caught the guy who did it and people just move on to the next exciting story. That's it. You don't always get the answers you're looking for.

There are penty of movies with happy ending. Most of them are so fucking unrealistic, but no one's complaining about that because they leave the theatre feeling good.
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Reply #9 posted 05/27/08 6:04pm

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XxAxX said:

speaking of bad endings, i HATED the ending for Number23.

the craptastic writers and directors used the cheapest of all tricks known - they kept the audience in the dark about an absolutely crucial plot factor until literally the very end of the movie.

namely, had we KNOWN FROM THE START that he had amnesia, the rest of the movie would have been a no-brainer.

boo. thumbs down, motherfuckers

ok. thanks for listening. carry on smile

While I do like the actual #23, that movie was complete trash.
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Reply #10 posted 05/27/08 6:06pm

eikonoklastes

XxAxX said:

speaking of bad endings, i HATED the ending for Number23.


I didn't even watch it til the end. That one was just horrible. I think I turned it off after 25 minutes and I hardly ever do that.
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Reply #11 posted 05/27/08 6:09pm

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THHHHHAAANNK YOU!!!!!

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Reply #12 posted 05/27/08 6:23pm

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XxAxX said:

speaking of bad endings, i HATED the ending for Number23.

the craptastic writers and directors used the cheapest of all tricks known - they kept the audience in the dark about an absolutely crucial plot factor until literally the very end of the movie.

namely, had we KNOWN FROM THE START that he had amnesia, the rest of the movie would have been a no-brainer.

boo. thumbs down, motherfuckers

ok. thanks for listening. carry on smile


Well, I guess I can avoid this movie now that I know. Would that reveal have ruined it if you knew? Or was it all part of the mystery?

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Reply #13 posted 05/27/08 6:25pm

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eikonoklastes said:

I loved it, even with the unusual ending. It's like reading something in the paper about a mysterious murder and then never get to hear how the story ended....because they never caught the guy who did it and people just move on to the next exciting story. That's it. You don't always get the answers you're looking for.

There are penty of movies with happy ending. Most of them are so fucking unrealistic, but no one's complaining about that because they leave the theatre feeling good.


I wasn't expecting a happy ending. I was expecting that we would get to have a satisfactory ending at least for Louellen. But we get more of an after the fact. It would have helped to know who all the players were and their motivations.

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Reply #14 posted 05/27/08 6:41pm

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superspaceboy said:

XxAxX said:

speaking of bad endings, i HATED the ending for Number23.

the craptastic writers and directors used the cheapest of all tricks known - they kept the audience in the dark about an absolutely crucial plot factor until literally the very end of the movie.

namely, had we KNOWN FROM THE START that he had amnesia, the rest of the movie would have been a no-brainer.

boo. thumbs down, motherfuckers

ok. thanks for listening. carry on smile


Well, I guess I can avoid this movie now that I know. Would that reveal have ruined it if you knew? Or was it all part of the mystery?



aw crap. sorry. it's been out for a year so i thought you would know about it by now.

and NO, that's the point. the mystery is why the writers and director betrayed the audience by withholding this one, VITAL clue. had we known from the start of the movie every last member of the audience would have guessed the "surprise ending" neutral
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Reply #15 posted 05/27/08 8:24pm

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SAY THAT AGAIN!

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Reply #16 posted 05/27/08 8:31pm

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garganta said:

SAY THAT AGAIN!



Who was that as an actor? Also who played the lead?

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Reply #17 posted 05/27/08 8:51pm

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The other movie that received critical acclaim was "There Will Be Blood" - I'm 3/4 through this and I'm like whofarted Lots of dramatic music and telling the story of a money hungry assh*le, is that it?

This movie just kept my attention because of Spanish pyscho with the oatmeal man haircut...
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Reply #18 posted 05/27/08 8:58pm

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Slave2daGroove said:

The other movie that received critical acclaim was "There Will Be Blood" - I'm 3/4 through this and I'm like whofarted Lots of dramatic music and telling the story of a money hungry assh*le, is that it?

This movie just kept my attention because of Spanish pyscho with the oatmeal man haircut...

I could not get through the 1st 10 minutes of this flick.
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Reply #19 posted 05/27/08 9:01pm

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superspaceboy said:

garganta said:

SAY THAT AGAIN!



Who was that as an actor? Also who played the lead?


what do you mean? that´s Javier Bardem and the lead was played
by Josh Brolin
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Reply #20 posted 05/27/08 9:18pm

abierman

superspaceboy said:

garganta said:

SAY THAT AGAIN!



Who was that as an actor? Also who played the lead?



uhm.....he's the dude who won an Oscar for this role....
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Reply #21 posted 05/27/08 9:19pm

abierman

superspaceboy said:

I watched this movie this weekend. For most of it, it was good. I had no idea what it was all about but heard it was a pretty bleak movie. As I was watching it, it seemed more of a quiet thriller like Fargo. I was annoyed with HOW the main character makes a stupid mistake by going back to the scene and thus propelling the rest of the plot. For me that's hard to watch, but the movie went along and I was genuinely on the edge of my seat.

However....

Once Louellen gets killed...from that moment the movie falls apart. I had to actually rewind the part where you see him dead. I can't believe that his death was so unsatisfactory and wasn't shown. Then I was left wondering "What Now? Only to find out there was no more to the story except that LAME dialog Tommy Lee has at the end (What was his purpose anyway?) Honestly I was so disappointed with the ending it ruined the rest of it for me.



true, I totally agree.
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Reply #22 posted 05/27/08 9:20pm

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eikonoklastes said:

I loved it, even with the unusual ending. It's like reading something in the paper about a mysterious murder and then never get to hear how the story ended....because they never caught the guy who did it and people just move on to the next exciting story. That's it. You don't always get the answers you're looking for.

There are penty of movies with happy ending. Most of them are so fucking unrealistic, but no one's complaining about that because they leave the theatre feeling good.



I also totally agree with that.....



shit, gotta love them Coen-brothers.....and whoever wrote the story!
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Reply #23 posted 05/27/08 9:23pm

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life is an unhappy random act

this movie lives up to that premise

i loved it

had to watch it 3 times to see what i

mis interpeted
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Reply #24 posted 05/27/08 9:41pm

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superspaceboy said:


However....

Once Louellen gets killed...from that moment the movie falls apart. I had to actually rewind the part where you see him dead. I can't believe that his death was so unsatisfactory and wasn't shown. Then I was left wondering "What Now? Only to find out there was no more to the story except that LAME dialog Tommy Lee has at the end (What was his purpose anyway?) Honestly I was so disappointed with the ending it ruined the rest of it for me.


HA HA!!

yeah, this part confused the hell outta me. dunce

i actually though Louellen got away with the cash! i was talkin' to a friend about it and he was like whofarted "LouEllen got killed at the motel!" confused

sooooo....anyways, yeah, i loved it! heart

i loved "There Will Be Blood" too!
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Reply #25 posted 05/27/08 10:30pm

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life is an unhappy random act

this movie lives up to that premise

i loved it

had to watch it 3 times to see what i

mis interpeted


The movie was a masterpiece. If things aren't wrapped into a neat bow, that doesn't mean its no good.

The Coen Bros. generally don't make character-driven movies (although there are exceptions to this).

And for those that are also critiquing There Will Be Blood..... mad Stop!!
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Reply #26 posted 05/27/08 10:57pm

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I enjoyed this film.
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Reply #27 posted 05/27/08 11:16pm

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magnificentsynthesizer said:

superspaceboy said:


However....

Once Louellen gets killed...from that moment the movie falls apart. I had to actually rewind the part where you see him dead. I can't believe that his death was so unsatisfactory and wasn't shown. Then I was left wondering "What Now? Only to find out there was no more to the story except that LAME dialog Tommy Lee has at the end (What was his purpose anyway?) Honestly I was so disappointed with the ending it ruined the rest of it for me.


HA HA!!

yeah, this part confused the hell outta me. dunce

i actually though Louellen got away with the cash! i was talkin' to a friend about it and he was like whofarted "LouEllen got killed at the motel!" confused

sooooo....anyways, yeah, i loved it! heart

i loved "There Will Be Blood" too!




thats why i liked this film

because when i first watched it, i didnt know who killed him, i didnt know that there was a second tracer

i didnt know that the mexicans who approached his mother inlaw where the killers

i had to actually think with this film

and pay attention

what a concept for a me a guy who never reads the whole first post of a thread lol
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Reply #28 posted 05/28/08 12:03am

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superspaceboy said:

I watched this movie this weekend. For most of it, it was good. I had no idea what it was all about but heard it was a pretty bleak movie. As I was watching it, it seemed more of a quiet thriller like Fargo. I was annoyed with HOW the main character makes a stupid mistake by going back to the scene and thus propelling the rest of the plot. For me that's hard to watch, but the movie went along and I was genuinely on the edge of my seat.

However....

Once Louellen gets killed...from that moment the movie falls apart. I had to actually rewind the part where you see him dead. I can't believe that his death was so unsatisfactory and wasn't shown. Then I was left wondering "What Now? Only to find out there was no more to the story except that LAME dialog Tommy Lee has at the end (What was his purpose anyway?) Honestly I was so disappointed with the ending it ruined the rest of it for me.


I think it's a matter of perspective. I look at it a lot differently:

Llewellyn wasn't the lead. Anton Chigurh (played by Javier Bardem) was.

We establish early on that Llewellyn is as dumb as a tick, in way over his head and stupidly thinking he can take on a psychopath just because he was a 'Nam vet.

Chigurh belongs in the same pantheon of villains that houses Darth Vader and Hannibal Lecter. And, that's why the Coen brothers go through great lengths to give him the best lines, the most outlandish scenes and the opportunities to impact everyone he comes in contact with. The tension he brought to the screen drove that film.

Llewellyn was but a foil used to flesh out Chigurh. That's why his death was treated so insignificantly.
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Reply #29 posted 05/28/08 12:11am

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ThreadBare said:

superspaceboy said:

I watched this movie this weekend. For most of it, it was good. I had no idea what it was all about but heard it was a pretty bleak movie. As I was watching it, it seemed more of a quiet thriller like Fargo. I was annoyed with HOW the main character makes a stupid mistake by going back to the scene and thus propelling the rest of the plot. For me that's hard to watch, but the movie went along and I was genuinely on the edge of my seat.

However....

Once Louellen gets killed...from that moment the movie falls apart. I had to actually rewind the part where you see him dead. I can't believe that his death was so unsatisfactory and wasn't shown. Then I was left wondering "What Now? Only to find out there was no more to the story except that LAME dialog Tommy Lee has at the end (What was his purpose anyway?) Honestly I was so disappointed with the ending it ruined the rest of it for me.


I think it's a matter of perspective. I look at it a lot differently:

Llewellyn wasn't the lead. Anton Chigurh (played by Javier Bardem) was.

We establish early on that Llewellyn is as dumb as a tick, in way over his head and stupidly thinking he can take on a psychopath just because he was a 'Nam vet.

Chigurh belongs in the same pantheon of villains that houses Darth Vader and Hannibal Lecter. And, that's why the Coen brothers go through great lengths to give him the best lines, the most outlandish scenes and the opportunities to impact everyone he comes in contact with. The tension he brought to the screen drove that film.

Llewellyn was but a foil used to flesh out Chigurh. That's why his death was treated so insignificantly.


I always thought the sheriff was the main character and that was why the movie ends with him retiring.
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