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Reply #30 posted 11/05/02 3:28pm

AzureStar

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I don't deny the very real fact that I would not mind if you died a painful death or were tortured to death by a group of religious zealots... this does not mean that I wish that one anyone else, therefore it has nothing to do with my "true colors" you dumbass.


Here is a note to everyone:

Never debate with someone as stupid as RaneStarr... they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

:LOL:



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Reply #31 posted 11/05/02 3:30pm

RaneStarr

IceNine said:

RaneStarr said:

IceNine said:



I am not an atheist, but I wouldn't cry if you doused yourself in gasoline, lit a match and slowly burned to death.



yeah! show ur true colors! "Por la boca se coje el pez!" that means in Spanish "by the mouth, a fish gets caught!"


I don't deny the very real fact that I would not mind if you died a painful death or were tortured to death by a group of religious zealots... this does not mean that I wish that one anyone else, therefore it has nothing to do with my "true colors" you dumbass.


Here is a note to everyone:

Never debate with someone as stupid as RaneStarr... they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

:LOL:





Atheists are so cheerful! happy happy joy joy! everyone look at the happy atheist and his kind words!! {{does her lil dance}}
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Reply #32 posted 11/05/02 3:31pm

nLA

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nLA said:

Questions for Rane:

I mean you no disrespect, because you are "family" but as a family member, you're sort of running the family name through the mud by inciting and then turning around and giving glib responses.

The minute you out yourself as a CHRISTIAN you represent ALL CHRISTIANS.

Don't you understand that? Therefore you REPRESENT CHRIST! Can you imagine that Jesus would be pleased? Hell, I know he's gotta couple of choice words for me... how about you?

"where there are ears, let him hear". No one wants to listen to the way you are proclamating Jesus' love. It appears to be a farce. I say this as a believer standing on your side.

You are a reflection, a mirror of Christ and right now all I see is you. Not Jesus. The same could be said for my sorry ass but at least I can acknowledge that.



Nla, I respect the fact that a lot of christians have denominations. That is why I say I do not rep all christians. I have no denomination, and don't agree with a lot of the things demoninations have to say. and I am not interested in proclaiming "jesus love" to convert anyone I don't care if anyone who is christian or non christian agree with me or not... I rep myself and my views ALONE



You represent ALL CHRISTIANS whether you like it or not, you represent CHRIST. I am not saying you are trying to convert anyone. Once you are part of the "body of christ" you cannot stand alone and represent *SOLELY* your views.

Yes, we are individuals, but at the same time have a common goal.

The common goal of proclamating God's love has not been met... the disdain for Christians has.

You dont have to care if I agree with you or not.. thats you're choice, but I will not stand idley by and watch you make fools of us all!
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Reply #33 posted 11/05/02 3:32pm

RaneStarr

hi azure AKA ICEnine!!! hug kiss
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Reply #34 posted 11/05/02 3:35pm

IceNine

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nLA said:

RaneStarr said:

nLA said:

Questions for Rane:

I mean you no disrespect, because you are "family" but as a family member, you're sort of running the family name through the mud by inciting and then turning around and giving glib responses.

The minute you out yourself as a CHRISTIAN you represent ALL CHRISTIANS.

Don't you understand that? Therefore you REPRESENT CHRIST! Can you imagine that Jesus would be pleased? Hell, I know he's gotta couple of choice words for me... how about you?

"where there are ears, let him hear". No one wants to listen to the way you are proclamating Jesus' love. It appears to be a farce. I say this as a believer standing on your side.

You are a reflection, a mirror of Christ and right now all I see is you. Not Jesus. The same could be said for my sorry ass but at least I can acknowledge that.



Nla, I respect the fact that a lot of christians have denominations. That is why I say I do not rep all christians. I have no denomination, and don't agree with a lot of the things demoninations have to say. and I am not interested in proclaiming "jesus love" to convert anyone I don't care if anyone who is christian or non christian agree with me or not... I rep myself and my views ALONE



You represent ALL CHRISTIANS whether you like it or not, you represent CHRIST. I am not saying you are trying to convert anyone. Once you are part of the "body of christ" you cannot stand alone and represent *SOLELY* your views.

Yes, we are individuals, but at the same time have a common goal.

The common goal of proclamating God's love has not been met... the disdain for Christians has.

You dont have to care if I agree with you or not.. thats you're choice, but I will not stand idley by and watch you make fools of us all!


My brother... you are not going to get through here... you know that, right?

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She is just going to do her little dance, drink her rubbing alcohol and spew more things that make christians look like the biggest assholes on the planet.

It's cool though, man... we all know that cats like you, Moonbeam, JDODSON, etc. exist and that every christian is not a loudmouth idiot.
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Reply #35 posted 11/05/02 3:36pm

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RaneStarr said:

hi azure AKA ICEnine!!! hug kiss


Heather and I are not the same person, shithead.
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Reply #36 posted 11/05/02 3:47pm

RaneStarr

hug Ice
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Reply #37 posted 11/05/02 3:51pm

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RaneStarr said:

hug Ice


I will leave you alone if you will please stop being so arrogant and condescending to everyone.

Okay?
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Reply #38 posted 11/05/02 3:59pm

RaneStarr

you not going to dominate over me, so if you back off I will back off aswell... You just messed with the wrong chick this time around, when u back off, I will gladly back off smile
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Reply #39 posted 11/05/02 4:01pm

nLA

RaneStarr said:

you not going to dominate over me, so if you back off I will back off aswell... You just messed with the wrong chick this time around, when u back off, I will gladly back off smile


Okay, I have to ask...

Back off of what Rane? You havent blown anyone's mind here.

And the only person Ice would want to dominate is Azure in some sort of kinky private sex thing, but otherwise, trying to crush you would be too easy.

He likes a challenge. And frankly, so do I.
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Reply #40 posted 11/05/02 4:02pm

MrBliss

RaneStarr said:

you not going to dominate over me, so if you back off I will back off aswell... You just messed with the wrong chick this time around, when u back off, I will gladly back off smile




wow..doesn't this reek of Christian humility..






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Reply #41 posted 11/05/02 4:09pm

RaneStarr

MrBliss said:

RaneStarr said:

you not going to dominate over me, so if you back off I will back off aswell... You just messed with the wrong chick this time around, when u back off, I will gladly back off smile




wow..doesn't this reek of Christian humility..






duck



you 4got 2 add the word "holy" in front of "christian"


ROTFL!
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Reply #42 posted 11/05/02 4:54pm

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nLA said:

RaneStarr said:

you not going to dominate over me, so if you back off I will back off aswell... You just messed with the wrong chick this time around, when u back off, I will gladly back off smile


Okay, I have to ask...

Back off of what Rane? You havent blown anyone's mind here.

And the only person Ice would want to dominate is Azure in some sort of kinky private sex thing, but otherwise, trying to crush you would be too easy.

He likes a challenge. And frankly, so do I.



Exactly, nLA... she HONESTLY thinks that she IS a challenge though... that is the point. This girls is so deluded that she actually thinks that she is clever and that her commentary is so biting that it cuts right to the bone.

:LOL:

Classic stuff... making fun of her is not as much fun as watching her inadvertantly make fun of herself.
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Reply #43 posted 11/05/02 5:11pm

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The problem with this discussion is that we are trying to discuss beliefs. Beliefs are a very personal thing. People come by their beliefs through very personal experiences. Rane is simply stating what she believes. I have to commend her for standing up so strongly regarding her beliefs and not backing down. However, Ice too stands by his beliefs and tries to supply some sort of support for his beliefs, most times through intellectual knowledge and extensive research. It isn't that Rane isn't intelligent, because I believe she is, but rather that Rane is coming from a position in which knowledge and research is not going to back up her claims because it is a matter of faith, a belief in something that cannot be proved. Yes her beliefs are dogmatic at times, but she still stands by those beliefs even in the face of adversity.

Resorting to name calling and belittling does not add to a debate but rather detracts from it. If everyone is true to their word and are accepting of each others beliefs, then act like it. Let Rane believe as she does without criticism, Let Ice believe as he does without criticism. If as many believe, Rane does not know how to debate, then just stop answering her posts. It's that easy. Stop the drama and live what you believe.
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Reply #44 posted 11/05/02 5:17pm

2the9s

Would you two get a pew.
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Reply #45 posted 11/05/02 5:22pm

nLA

DreamLife said:

The problem with this discussion is that we are trying to discuss beliefs. Beliefs are a very personal thing. People come by their beliefs through very personal experiences. Rane is simply stating what she believes. I have to commend her for standing up so strongly regarding her beliefs and not backing down. However, Ice too stands by his beliefs and tries to supply some sort of support for his beliefs, most times through intellectual knowledge and extensive research. It isn't that Rane isn't intelligent, because I believe she is, but rather that Rane is coming from a position in which knowledge and research is not going to back up her claims because it is a matter of faith, a belief in something that cannot be proved. Yes her beliefs are dogmatic at times, but she still stands by those beliefs even in the face of adversity.

Resorting to name calling and belittling does not add to a debate but rather detracts from it. If everyone is true to their word and are accepting of each others beliefs, then act like it. Let Rane believe as she does without criticism, Let Ice believe as he does without criticism. If as many believe, Rane does not know how to debate, then just stop answering her posts. It's that easy. Stop the drama and live what you believe.


The problem lies *NOT* in what Rane believes in, but rather *HOW* she portrays her belief with a good dose of ARROGANCE in her mind thinking she's standing her ground.

No one can mock a truly righteous person for it would be apparent that their intentions are genuine. However, you can smell self-righteousness a mile away and it clouds the truths that she proclaims.

She is not standing by her beliefs in the face of adversity. Ice Nine is not an adversary. The devil is an adversary, The romans killing Christians were adversaries. This is a matter of someone dismissing another individuals belief and talking over them.

Ice continually tried to get Rane to discuss, reason, and question but she would not participate, other than to spew scriptures and say all the things that would make one want to turn a deaf ear.

The problem never originated from her beliefs or Ice's beliefs. The problem lies in the DELIVERY... not the MESSAGE.

Rane can believe all she wants, and so do I -- I do believe in the same things she does: in God's Love, Salvation, etc.

I don't believe in creating drama. She claims she represents *her* views, but once you bring God into the picture, people can't help but make the connection.

I really miss JW1914. That person was really succinct and thoughtful. Never dismissed anyone's view point and always maintained his/her dignity and that of their faith.

Something to learn.
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Reply #46 posted 11/05/02 5:37pm

RaneStarr

{does a lil dance, shakes a lil love, gets down 2nite!} music
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Reply #47 posted 11/05/02 5:47pm

AzureStar

RaneStarr said:

you not going to dominate over me, so if you back off I will back off aswell... You just messed with the wrong chick this time around, when u back off, I will gladly back off smile


"You just messed with the wrong chick this time around..."

LOL! You think so highly of yourself, Rane. I don't know whether to laugh at you or feel sorry for you.

Oh... and how exactly does one "shake a little love"?
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Reply #48 posted 11/05/02 5:48pm

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AzureStar said:

RaneStarr said:

you not going to dominate over me, so if you back off I will back off aswell... You just messed with the wrong chick this time around, when u back off, I will gladly back off smile


"You just messed with the wrong chick this time around..."

LOL! You think so highly of yourself, Rane. I don't know whether to laugh at you or feel sorry for you.

Oh... and how exactly does one "shake a little love"?


When archaeologists get around to digging RaneStarr up they will either laugh or cry!

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Reply #49 posted 11/05/02 5:53pm

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Given the post count here and elsewhere, I'm beginning to think Ice enjoys this sort exchange better than the intellectual stuff of mine he hasn't responded to...I mean sure, it's fun to take potshots at the simpletons, but c'mon! Geez!!
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #50 posted 11/05/02 5:54pm

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teller said:

Given the post count here and elsewhere, I'm beginning to think Ice enjoys this sort exchange better than the intellectual stuff of mine he hasn't responded to...I mean sure, it's fun to take potshots at the simpletons, but c'mon! Geez!!



I like them both, but this is a LOT of fun!

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Did you dig my last posts on the time travel topic?
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Reply #51 posted 11/05/02 5:56pm

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IceNine said:

teller said:

Given the post count here and elsewhere, I'm beginning to think Ice enjoys this sort exchange better than the intellectual stuff of mine he hasn't responded to...I mean sure, it's fun to take potshots at the simpletons, but c'mon! Geez!!



I like them both, but this is a LOT of fun!

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Did you dig my last posts on the time travel topic?
Yeah that was nice...you always bring on the heavy lifting. smile
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Reply #52 posted 11/05/02 6:42pm

RaneStarr

{does the robot} {sprinkles a lil luv! get down 2nite! ooo! get down 2nite!}


actualley azure, eye feel very good about the way eye defended myself! (whether anyone liked what eye said or not!! cuz eye could care less!) ROFL...



Girls Rock!
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Reply #53 posted 11/05/02 6:46pm

RaneStarr

2the9s said:

Would you two get a pew.




azure is a a lil jealous cuz Ice has a crush on me and can't get enuff... he's like the bully in the school playground pulling on my pony tails 2 get attention!! sorry Ice, ur not my type... barf hehehehehehehehehehe!
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Reply #54 posted 11/05/02 7:01pm

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RaneStarr said:

2the9s said:

Would you two get a pew.




azure is a a lil jealous cuz Ice has a crush on me and can't get enuff... he's like the bully in the school playground pulling on my pony tails 2 get attention!! sorry Ice, ur not my type... barf hehehehehehehehehehe!


You are so very right, I am not your type... I am not a completely mindless moron with an IQ of three and very poor verbal skills.

I cannot even imagine anyone fucking you... after looking at your picture, a hard-on in the same room with you seems about as likely as a BB knocking down Mount Everest.
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Reply #55 posted 11/05/02 7:34pm

RaneStarr

u don't think eye'm pretty?! cry

LMAO!
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Reply #56 posted 11/05/02 7:55pm

AzureStar

RaneStarr said:

u don't think eye'm pretty?! cry

LMAO!


Do not send me any more "Jesus loves me" orgnotes. Keep it to yourself.


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Reply #57 posted 11/05/02 8:01pm

RaneStarr

hahahahaha eye like pickin on y'all! lol
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Reply #58 posted 11/05/02 8:03pm

nLA

RaneStarr said:

hahahahaha eye like pickin on y'all! lol



Jesus likes it when you do that.
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Reply #59 posted 11/05/02 8:09pm

RaneStarr

nLA said:

RaneStarr said:

hahahahaha eye like pickin on y'all! lol



Jesus likes it when you do that.




u 4got 2 add "holy sinless christians like rane" after "when"


LMAO!
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