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Reply #90 posted 05/19/08 5:25pm

BlueZebra

evenstar3 said:

whatever you parents do, don't be so repressed about talking about sex with your kids that you honestly think your 21 year old daughter who wants to move in with her boyfriend is going to live in a separate bedroom. neutral lol


hmmm did they talk to their pastor about it ?
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Reply #91 posted 05/19/08 5:26pm

ZombieKitten

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ZombieKitten said:



I thought boys had one track minds! The ones who liked me were way too shy to tell me. My rack was coming along nicely by about age 14.

OMG, when did they turn into Fs?! eek

Gs rolleyes

I don't know hmmm I was wearing the wrong size bra until 2001
I remember wearing a 36DD when I was 19, so that could have been a 32F if had been correctly fitted.
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Reply #92 posted 05/19/08 5:27pm

BlueZebra

ZombieKitten said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


OMG, when did they turn into Fs?! eek

Gs rolleyes

I don't know hmmm I was wearing the wrong size bra until 2001
I remember wearing a 36DD when I was 19, so that could have been a 32F if had been correctly fitted.



Gs eek


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Reply #93 posted 05/19/08 5:27pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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ZombieKitten said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


OMG, when did they turn into Fs?! eek

Gs rolleyes

I don't know hmmm I was wearing the wrong size bra until 2001
I remember wearing a 36DD when I was 19, so that could have been a 32F if had been correctly fitted.

boxed sorry lol Wow! Your parents must have been a wreck! lol Does this make you glad you have boys so you don't have to lord over their safety like you would with a girl? Maybe that's why the boys were so afraid? You were literally larger than life? lol

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Reply #94 posted 05/19/08 5:29pm

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ZombieKitten said:

evenstar3 said:

whatever you parents do, don't be so repressed about talking about sex with your kids that you honestly think your 21 year old daughter who wants to move in with her boyfriend is going to live in a separate bedroom. neutral lol

you have convinced your folks of that? wacky


no, my mom's assuming it. disbelief i'm skirting the issue 'til later, but seriously...uuuugh. sigh
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Reply #95 posted 05/19/08 5:29pm

ZombieKitten

evenstar3 said:

ZombieKitten said:


you have convinced your folks of that? wacky


no, my mom's assuming it. disbelief i'm skirting the issue 'til later, but seriously...uuuugh. sigh


oh dear lord comfort
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Reply #96 posted 05/19/08 5:31pm

BlueZebra

ZombieKitten said:

evenstar3 said:



no, my mom's assuming it. disbelief i'm skirting the issue 'til later, but seriously...uuuugh. sigh


oh dear lord comfort



wtf ... they think their daughter is into Rick Astley. THEY.NEED.HELP.
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Reply #97 posted 05/19/08 5:32pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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evenstar3 said:

ZombieKitten said:


you have convinced your folks of that? wacky


no, my mom's assuming it. disbelief i'm skirting the issue 'til later, but seriously...uuuugh. sigh

Is she like the neighbor mom from American Beauty? eek
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Reply #98 posted 05/19/08 5:34pm

ZombieKitten

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ZombieKitten said:


Gs rolleyes

I don't know hmmm I was wearing the wrong size bra until 2001
I remember wearing a 36DD when I was 19, so that could have been a 32F if had been correctly fitted.

boxed sorry lol Wow! Your parents must have been a wreck! lol Does this make you glad you have boys so you don't have to lord over their safety like you would with a girl? Maybe that's why the boys were so afraid? You were literally larger than life? lol

smile


You have seen what I look like, I was not OUT THERE - you couldn't really tell I had such big boobs, even now people still think I am just average sized (the bra fitters are always shocked when I take off my top, their guess of 36D or something is WAAAAAY off).
I wore things to cover up, I was embarassed and felt like a freak. It would have been my shyness, rather than anything physical that scared the boys away.
My parents had absolutely nothing to worry about. My mum wanted to take me to the doctor to go on the pill when I was 18, and I cried, because I had never even been kissed cry
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Reply #99 posted 05/19/08 7:08pm

hellomoto

Parents shouldnt have to tell their kids they shouldnt be having sex at 12. Any 12 year old that is thinking of actually having sex (not just thinking about sex in general) but about actually acting on it is going to do it anyway. My parents didnt have to say a word to me, there is no way I even wanted to have sex at that age but I'm sure if I did want to I would of done it anyway. I know some kids do it out of peer pressure, but even then no matter what their parents are telling them, they will listen to their friends over their parents. I think it depends entirely on what kind of child you are. I dont think anything can be done to stop them so I do think its best just to make her aware of precautions and protection.
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Reply #100 posted 05/19/08 7:11pm

ZombieKitten

hellomoto said:

Parents shouldnt have to tell their kids they shouldnt be having sex at 12. Any 12 year old that is thinking of actually having sex (not just thinking about sex in general) but about actually acting on it is going to do it anyway. My parents didnt have to say a word to me, there is no way I even wanted to have sex at that age but I'm sure if I did want to I would of done it anyway. I know some kids do it out of peer pressure, but even then no matter what their parents are telling them, they will listen to their friends over their parents. I think it depends entirely on what kind of child you are. I dont think anything can be done to stop them so I do think its best just to make her aware of precautions and protection.


How can you stop your child, who may have self-esteem issues and be lacking in maturity from being co-erced into it by someone smarter and manipulative?
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Reply #101 posted 05/19/08 7:34pm

xplnyrslf

Providing the partner is in the same age group, start with condoms and birth control. The horse is outta the barn, and over the hill. You can try to keep track of activities, and emphasize grades, etc.. I just think with the internet and cable TV, kids are learning way earlier than anticipated. confused
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Reply #102 posted 05/19/08 7:59pm

Flowerz

Dewrede said:

RodeoSchro said:

Man, that's a tough one. My daughter is almost 12.

First of all, I'd call a meeting with the parents of the boy. Surely they have some culpability. At minimum, you can threated statutory rape charges. That ought to keep the boy away.

But I guess it all comes back to the parents. More needs to be done.


that's just ridiculous


it is.. you have a sexually active 12 year old girl who lays up with 5 different little boys under 18 .. and you have the time to be draggin' all the boy's family's to court.. right ..this is what's wrong with this generation of kids .. it's the GIRL that's the problem and parents are in such denial over their own kid's actions....right, it's everybody else's fault that my child is sexually active.... yes, let me go threaten all the other kids for what my child is allowing.... and let me focus my attention on all the little boys.... riiight..
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Reply #103 posted 05/19/08 8:14pm

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Flowerz said:

Dewrede said:



that's just ridiculous


it is.. you have a sexually active 12 year old girl who lays up with 5 different little boys under 18 .. and you have the time to be draggin' all the boy's family's to court.. right ..this is what's wrong with this generation of kids .. it's the GIRL that's the problem and parents are in such denial over their own kid's actions....right, it's everybody else's fault that my child is sexually active.... yes, let me go threaten all the other kids for what my child is allowing.... and let me focus my attention on all the little boys.... riiight..


Sorry, what?

So instead of placing blame on the boy, you're placing it on the girl???

Um, both are doing it. I think it's pretty safe to say that both parties are the "problem".

Or maybe I didn't just get what you meant....maybe you are saying that parents need to just focus on their own kids instead of trying to make it all about the other kid. Cuz if that's what you're saying....ok, I totally agree with that.
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Reply #104 posted 05/19/08 8:25pm

Christopher

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thepope2the9s said:

If you just found out your 12 yr old daugher had sex? How would you feel? What would you do? Who's fault is this. Especially if she has been educated by parents,school,church of the dangers of sex and that she is not mature enough to engage. neutral

well i think its way too young but when i was 12/13 girls some girls in school were already having sex ...some had babies.but these were no little cuesty 12-13/14 yr old's they looked and acted alot older.
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Reply #105 posted 05/19/08 8:35pm

Flowerz

JustErin said:

Flowerz said:



it is.. you have a sexually active 12 year old girl who lays up with 5 different little boys under 18 .. and you have the time to be draggin' all the boy's family's to court.. right ..this is what's wrong with this generation of kids .. it's the GIRL that's the problem and parents are in such denial over their own kid's actions....right, it's everybody else's fault that my child is sexually active.... yes, let me go threaten all the other kids for what my child is allowing.... and let me focus my attention on all the little boys.... riiight..


Sorry, what?

So instead of placing blame on the boy, you're placing it on the girl???

Um, both are doing it. I think it's pretty safe to say that both parties are the "problem".

Or maybe I didn't just get what you meant....maybe you are saying that parents need to just focus on their own kids instead of trying to make it all about the other kid. Cuz if that's what you're saying....ok, I totally agree with that.


Rodeo said drag the boy's family to court.. statutory rape... ok you do that and your daughter lays up with another little boy.. so you drag that kid's family to court too? ...im sorry, parents should worry about their own kids actions... deal with your own kids and stop blaming other kids and their parents for what your own child is doing.
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Reply #106 posted 05/19/08 9:12pm

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RodeoSchro said:

At minimum, you can threated statutory rape charges. That ought to keep the boy away.

Dude... what the fuck?!?
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Reply #107 posted 05/19/08 10:04pm

Ocean

I would lock her up in a padded room...never to be let out pissed
A 12 year old is a baby! What is the world coming too ...mind u I know my 13 year old wouldn't even contemplate it...thank god
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Reply #108 posted 05/19/08 10:35pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

As for the fear of God and or mom, it worked in my household. Try and play mom and you were guaranteed to be planted by the oak tree in the backyard as promised. ( Thank God above I had a mom with the guts to run the distance as I was built to go the rounds.) If all I had to fear was your mouth I was certainly going to go there. Mom was a woman of action and that kept me in my place.


I don't think in the matter of me, words were gonna do so much. Words backed by action when resisted spoke volumes. When it comes to my prodigy, it was a good bit easier by virtue of character. Nonethess their father and I were on the same page and as I told them, they were so screwed when it came to room to blow it.


That said, I kept them veryyyyy involved and the father and i arranged our mutual schedules to know where they were at all times and to cover each others bases when we ourselves weren't readily available.
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Reply #109 posted 05/19/08 10:38pm

Flowerz

parents should scare their kids with every survey out there on STD's ... hey, if scaring them will help save their health i'd be using it...

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Reply #110 posted 05/19/08 10:58pm

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I'm a little disturbed by some of the responses on this thread. You have Roodboi threatening to haul some kid off to jail for wanting to have sex with his daughter while Stymie is threatening to kick her daughter out of the house if she gets knocked up, which would be the worst possible thing she could do if she got pregnant. I think that a lot of us have our own uncomfortable issues about sex that we are projecting on our kids.

As for my two cents twocents , I think that parents shouldn't be dictating when their children should be having sex until they have had a very honest discussion with their children about why they want to have sex in the first place. Now as for the kids, they're already going through difficult growing pains in puberty with their hormones raging uncontrollably. Heck, when I was 12 and 13 years old, I'd cum in my pants whenever I saw naked pictures of women in Playboy, Penthouse, or Hustler, and I was mortified of walking down the school hallway because of the uncontrolled erections I'd get for no apparent reason other than my body adjusting into physical adulthood. I didn't really understand why I felt the way I did; all I know that while I was embarrassed at what was happening to me, I felt strangely excited. I could have used some serious but loving guidance at that age, but my stepmom actually made me feel worse by teasing me about my lack of sexual education. sigh confuse My older brothers and sisters weren't much better either, as my older sister got pregnant while she was still in high school and eventually dropped out of school to have her baby, and one of my older brothers impregnated another girl who was the same age I was at the time (16) when she had her first child.

Having said that, I don't think that we need to treat our children's budding sexuality as some horrible "Scared Straight" event without acknowledging their own sexual impulses. After all, the reason most people have sex is because it feels incredibly wonderful to have our genitalia stroked in such a good way, and that quite frankly if it is done right, is a whole lot of fun. It's also the time where both boys and girls feel their first true romantic desires for other people. Too many parents dismiss their kids' desires as puppy love, or they put them down by saying that they can't possibly know what true love is, but that's what the whole purpose of adolescence is for; the kid's self-discovery of their growing adulthood. Nevertheless, parents need to explain to their kids about their real sexual desires and the very real consequences of those desires as well. Unfortunately, there are an awful lot of parents who are uncomfortable at educating their children about sexuality due to their own hangups or shortcomings, especially if it had to do with religious upbringing (e.g., your church said that if you had teen sex before marriage, you were an evil sinner that deserved to go to hell), or the very real financial cost of raising a child they can't afford to raise. Too many people pass off sex-ed to their churches, which is bad in itself because they can be just as guilty of burying their heads in the sand about an adolescent's budding sexuality, and they force abstinence on these same children as the only way to deal with their sexual urges. Then these same children get faulty instruction about sex from their peer groups (e.g., you can't get pregnant if you have sex standing up, or you can't get pregnant if you douche beforehand or afterward with soda pop), and they end up getting pregnant and having kids anyway. Then there are children who come from some really broken homes who deliberately try to get pregnant at age 12 or 13 because they want someone to love unconditionally in a way that they felt they didn't receive as young children themselves. Combine that with the fact that most of them grow up in some run down ghetto or some backwoods rural area where there are few if any jobs, and they feel that this is their lot in life. These are the children who most desperately need sex education but are the least likely to get it.

BTW, we act like it's highly unusual for 12 and 13 year olds to be having sex, but this has only been the case within the last 100 years or so. When we were living in a pre-industrial society, children would be regularly married off at those ages, and they would usually end up working on the family farms or as an apprentice. It's only been since the last century that there were opportunities to grow intellectually and financially after adolescence, and it's only been since after World War II that there has been anything like a teen adolescent period for children to grow up in and have time to contemplate what they want their lives to become after high school. Most kids these days plan on going to college and having a career before eventually settling down to marriage and a family, and even if they want to have sex, they are afraid to have intercourse because they know that if they get pregnant while still teens, then they are probably going to ruin their future life plans, so they keep their sexual escapades to dry humping, hand jobs, and oral sex. Kids these days also know about the risks of contracting AIDS, and even with today's HIV inhibiting medicine, no teen thinks that sex is worth dying for. Having said that, teen pregnancy shouldn't have to mean that the kid's life is over. While it will be much more difficult for a teen mother or father to raise a baby, they still have enough time ahead of them to make something of their lives. They just need the proper support from their families and community. And even in some worse case scenarios, there are still people willing to adopt their children.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that we as parents not only need to be honest with our children about sex, but we need to be totally honest about our own sexual issues with our kids. In the end, it may just be a crapshoot, but we have to hope and pray that our values stick in the mids of our children and that they will do the responsible thing about sex.

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Reply #111 posted 05/20/08 1:45am

Ottensen

RodeoSchro said:

SCNDLS said:

The 12 year-old daughter of the lady that used to do my hair is sexually active and it turned out that she had an STD. disbelief Apparently, her and all her lil girlfriends were fucking the same lil boy so they ALL got the STD. sigh Strange days. . .


What the fuck?

I don't understand this.

12-year-old kids having sex is WRONG. There is no justification for it. NONE.

Any parent that does NOT teach their kids this is not doing their job as a parent.


Parents can attempt to teach until they're blue in the face, but that is NO guarantee that the child won't decide to act on their own will and have sex secretly. If they are hell bent on having sex, they're going to do it, regardless of what mom, dad, or religious teaching dictates. Do I agree with them doing it? Hells no. But here's the newsflash; adolescents are clever to the point of being devious, even the so called "good kids" from "good families" on the school's honor roll. If they're insisitent on engaging in sex, it's going to happen, and parents will be none the wiser. I don't think it's fair to assume a parent isn't doing their job, if in fact they have a secretive kid who's excellent at hiding dirty deeds.
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Reply #112 posted 05/20/08 2:27am

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I think I'd just join the party.



Make heart , not war.
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Reply #113 posted 05/20/08 2:56am

superkiss

G0d said:

Make heart , not war.


funny you mention it, thats what my father said to my mother after he cheated on her while they were married because she had a problem with it.

but thats what psychopaths do, they always twist things around to make out its the other person with the problem.
my innocence raped my trust betrayed my mind deceived my heart in smitherines and u've got the gall to breathe.
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Reply #114 posted 05/20/08 5:28am

roodboi

728huey said:

I'm a little disturbed by some of the responses on this thread. You have Roodboi threatening to haul some kid off to jail for wanting to have sex with his daughter while Stymie is threatening to kick her daughter out of the house if she gets knocked up, which would be the worst possible thing she could do if she got pregnant.

re-read, bro...I didn't say anything close to that...whofarted
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Reply #115 posted 05/20/08 7:35am

horatio

JustErin said:

horatio said:




I think at that age visits to battered women shelters, day cares, foster homes, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, food pantries and other places of the sort on a regular basis, especially during the summer months would be appropriate.
Seeing human suffering, poverty and crying babies might make them at the least careful.


I think doing that is an excellent idea. However, I do believe it should be used as an education tool and not some scare tactic.



I would just go often to these places for no apparent reason, drop some clothes off food, etc. any excuse and drag them along and not say a word. Let them draw their own conclusion in their own mind. nod
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Reply #116 posted 05/20/08 9:14am

Stymie

728huey said:

I'm a little disturbed by some of the responses on this thread. You have Roodboi threatening to haul some kid off to jail for wanting to have sex with his daughter while Stymie is threatening to kick her daughter out of the house if she gets knocked up, which would be the worst possible thing she could do if she got pregnant. I think that a lot of us have our own uncomfortable issues about sex that we are projecting on our kids.

As for my two cents twocents , I think that parents shouldn't be dictating when their children should be having sex until they have had a very honest discussion with their children about why they want to have sex in the first place. Now as for the kids, they're already going through difficult growing pains in puberty with their hormones raging uncontrollably. Heck, when I was 12 and 13 years old, I'd cum in my pants whenever I saw naked pictures of women in Playboy, Penthouse, or Hustler, and I was mortified of walking down the school hallway because of the uncontrolled erections I'd get for no apparent reason other than my body adjusting into physical adulthood. I didn't really understand why I felt the way I did; all I know that while I was embarrassed at what was happening to me, I felt strangely excited. I could have used some serious but loving guidance at that age, but my stepmom actually made me feel worse by teasing me about my lack of sexual education. sigh confuse My older brothers and sisters weren't much better either, as my older sister got pregnant while she was still in high school and eventually dropped out of school to have her baby, and one of my older brothers impregnated another girl who was the same age I was at the time (16) when she had her first child.

Having said that, I don't think that we need to treat our children's budding sexuality as some horrible "Scared Straight" event without acknowledging their own sexual impulses. After all, the reason most people have sex is because it feels incredibly wonderful to have our genitalia stroked in such a good way, and that quite frankly if it is done right, is a whole lot of fun. It's also the time where both boys and girls feel their first true romantic desires for other people. Too many parents dismiss their kids' desires as puppy love, or they put them down by saying that they can't possibly know what true love is, but that's what the whole purpose of adolescence is for; the kid's self-discovery of their growing adulthood. Nevertheless, parents need to explain to their kids about their real sexual desires and the very real consequences of those desires as well. Unfortunately, there are an awful lot of parents who are uncomfortable at educating their children about sexuality due to their own hangups or shortcomings, especially if it had to do with religious upbringing (e.g., your church said that if you had teen sex before marriage, you were an evil sinner that deserved to go to hell), or the very real financial cost of raising a child they can't afford to raise. Too many people pass off sex-ed to their churches, which is bad in itself because they can be just as guilty of burying their heads in the sand about an adolescent's budding sexuality, and they force abstinence on these same children as the only way to deal with their sexual urges. Then these same children get faulty instruction about sex from their peer groups (e.g., you can't get pregnant if you have sex standing up, or you can't get pregnant if you douche beforehand or afterward with soda pop), and they end up getting pregnant and having kids anyway. Then there are children who come from some really broken homes who deliberately try to get pregnant at age 12 or 13 because they want someone to love unconditionally in a way that they felt they didn't receive as young children themselves. Combine that with the fact that most of them grow up in some run down ghetto or some backwoods rural area where there are few if any jobs, and they feel that this is their lot in life. These are the children who most desperately need sex education but are the least likely to get it.

BTW, we act like it's highly unusual for 12 and 13 year olds to be having sex, but this has only been the case within the last 100 years or so. When we were living in a pre-industrial society, children would be regularly married off at those ages, and they would usually end up working on the family farms or as an apprentice. It's only been since the last century that there were opportunities to grow intellectually and financially after adolescence, and it's only been since after World War II that there has been anything like a teen adolescent period for children to grow up in and have time to contemplate what they want their lives to become after high school. Most kids these days plan on going to college and having a career before eventually settling down to marriage and a family, and even if they want to have sex, they are afraid to have intercourse because they know that if they get pregnant while still teens, then they are probably going to ruin their future life plans, so they keep their sexual escapades to dry humping, hand jobs, and oral sex. Kids these days also know about the risks of contracting AIDS, and even with today's HIV inhibiting medicine, no teen thinks that sex is worth dying for. Having said that, teen pregnancy shouldn't have to mean that the kid's life is over. While it will be much more difficult for a teen mother or father to raise a baby, they still have enough time ahead of them to make something of their lives. They just need the proper support from their families and community. And even in some worse case scenarios, there are still people willing to adopt their children.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that we as parents not only need to be honest with our children about sex, but we need to be totally honest about our own sexual issues with our kids. In the end, it may just be a crapshoot, but we have to hope and pray that our values stick in the mids of our children and that they will do the responsible thing about sex.

hug comfort typing
And what do you suggest I do? And I zero issues with sex, thank you very much. I have open dialogue with my son and my daughter on the topic.
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Reply #117 posted 05/20/08 9:15am

Stymie

Ottensen said:

RodeoSchro said:



What the fuck?

I don't understand this.

12-year-old kids having sex is WRONG. There is no justification for it. NONE.

Any parent that does NOT teach their kids this is not doing their job as a parent.


Parents can attempt to teach until they're blue in the face, but that is NO guarantee that the child won't decide to act on their own will and have sex secretly. If they are hell bent on having sex, they're going to do it, regardless of what mom, dad, or religious teaching dictates. Do I agree with them doing it? Hells no. But here's the newsflash; adolescents are clever to the point of being devious, even the so called "good kids" from "good families" on the school's honor roll. If they're insisitent on engaging in sex, it's going to happen, and parents will be none the wiser. I don't think it's fair to assume a parent isn't doing their job, if in fact they have a secretive kid who's excellent at hiding dirty deeds.
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Reply #118 posted 05/20/08 9:22am

shanti0608

Stymie said:

728huey said:

I'm a little disturbed by some of the responses on this thread. You have Roodboi threatening to haul some kid off to jail for wanting to have sex with his daughter while Stymie is threatening to kick her daughter out of the house if she gets knocked up, which would be the worst possible thing she could do if she got pregnant. I think that a lot of us have our own uncomfortable issues about sex that we are projecting on our kids.

As for my two cents twocents , I think that parents shouldn't be dictating when their children should be having sex until they have had a very honest discussion with their children about why they want to have sex in the first place. Now as for the kids, they're already going through difficult growing pains in puberty with their hormones raging uncontrollably. Heck, when I was 12 and 13 years old, I'd cum in my pants whenever I saw naked pictures of women in Playboy, Penthouse, or Hustler, and I was mortified of walking down the school hallway because of the uncontrolled erections I'd get for no apparent reason other than my body adjusting into physical adulthood. I didn't really understand why I felt the way I did; all I know that while I was embarrassed at what was happening to me, I felt strangely excited. I could have used some serious but loving guidance at that age, but my stepmom actually made me feel worse by teasing me about my lack of sexual education. sigh confuse My older brothers and sisters weren't much better either, as my older sister got pregnant while she was still in high school and eventually dropped out of school to have her baby, and one of my older brothers impregnated another girl who was the same age I was at the time (16) when she had her first child.

Having said that, I don't think that we need to treat our children's budding sexuality as some horrible "Scared Straight" event without acknowledging their own sexual impulses. After all, the reason most people have sex is because it feels incredibly wonderful to have our genitalia stroked in such a good way, and that quite frankly if it is done right, is a whole lot of fun. It's also the time where both boys and girls feel their first true romantic desires for other people. Too many parents dismiss their kids' desires as puppy love, or they put them down by saying that they can't possibly know what true love is, but that's what the whole purpose of adolescence is for; the kid's self-discovery of their growing adulthood. Nevertheless, parents need to explain to their kids about their real sexual desires and the very real consequences of those desires as well. Unfortunately, there are an awful lot of parents who are uncomfortable at educating their children about sexuality due to their own hangups or shortcomings, especially if it had to do with religious upbringing (e.g., your church said that if you had teen sex before marriage, you were an evil sinner that deserved to go to hell), or the very real financial cost of raising a child they can't afford to raise. Too many people pass off sex-ed to their churches, which is bad in itself because they can be just as guilty of burying their heads in the sand about an adolescent's budding sexuality, and they force abstinence on these same children as the only way to deal with their sexual urges. Then these same children get faulty instruction about sex from their peer groups (e.g., you can't get pregnant if you have sex standing up, or you can't get pregnant if you douche beforehand or afterward with soda pop), and they end up getting pregnant and having kids anyway. Then there are children who come from some really broken homes who deliberately try to get pregnant at age 12 or 13 because they want someone to love unconditionally in a way that they felt they didn't receive as young children themselves. Combine that with the fact that most of them grow up in some run down ghetto or some backwoods rural area where there are few if any jobs, and they feel that this is their lot in life. These are the children who most desperately need sex education but are the least likely to get it.

BTW, we act like it's highly unusual for 12 and 13 year olds to be having sex, but this has only been the case within the last 100 years or so. When we were living in a pre-industrial society, children would be regularly married off at those ages, and they would usually end up working on the family farms or as an apprentice. It's only been since the last century that there were opportunities to grow intellectually and financially after adolescence, and it's only been since after World War II that there has been anything like a teen adolescent period for children to grow up in and have time to contemplate what they want their lives to become after high school. Most kids these days plan on going to college and having a career before eventually settling down to marriage and a family, and even if they want to have sex, they are afraid to have intercourse because they know that if they get pregnant while still teens, then they are probably going to ruin their future life plans, so they keep their sexual escapades to dry humping, hand jobs, and oral sex. Kids these days also know about the risks of contracting AIDS, and even with today's HIV inhibiting medicine, no teen thinks that sex is worth dying for. Having said that, teen pregnancy shouldn't have to mean that the kid's life is over. While it will be much more difficult for a teen mother or father to raise a baby, they still have enough time ahead of them to make something of their lives. They just need the proper support from their families and community. And even in some worse case scenarios, there are still people willing to adopt their children.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that we as parents not only need to be honest with our children about sex, but we need to be totally honest about our own sexual issues with our kids. In the end, it may just be a crapshoot, but we have to hope and pray that our values stick in the mids of our children and that they will do the responsible thing about sex.

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And what do you suggest I do? And I zero issues with sex, thank you very much. I have open dialogue with my son and my daughter on the topic.



I guess when you are a parent you have to make rules and set boundaries and mean them. My mom had strict rules in her house and she meant it. She told me that if I ever got pregnant under her roof (her other rule was that you had to be out of the house by 18) that I would either have to move out and raise it on my own or have an abortion if I stayed in her house.
Those we her rules and she meant it.
I knew that she was not playing and she meant business.
I guess you have to find what works to get through to your children at a young age so they listen and behave.
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Reply #119 posted 05/20/08 9:25am

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shanti0608 said:

Stymie said:

And what do you suggest I do? And I zero issues with sex, thank you very much. I have open dialogue with my son and my daughter on the topic.



I guess when you are a parent you have to make rules and set boundaries and mean them. My mom had strict rules in her house and she meant it. She told me that if I ever got pregnant under her roof (her other rule was that you had to be out of the house by 18) that I would either have to move out and raise it on my own or have an abortion if I stayed in her house.
Those we her rules and she meant it.
I knew that she was not playing and she meant business.
I guess you have to find what works to get through to your children at a young age so they listen and behave.
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My daughter has a history of disobeying me as it is. As I stated several posts up, I have said and done everything that I can possibly do.
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