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PrintableRodeoSchro said: CalhounSq said: & if they can't afford the advice of a professional - what do they do then? Never stop asking for advice. Anyone can go to a church and talk to the pastor, for free.  & if they're not religious & don't really care to take their kid to some strange (unknown) pastor??    I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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SCNDLS said: amorbella said: She shouldnt have even been left alone with a boy long enough to have sex. Hell NO!!! At 12, you go to school, go straight home, and are never left unattended. What if you're a working mother? I was a latchkey kid from 2nd grade until I graduated from high school. My mother worked TWO jobs the ENTIRE time and worked on her Bachelor's and Master's. She left the house at 6 am and didn't come home until 10 pm, five days a week. I was responsible for getting myself to school and getting back home by 4:30 pm. If I was another type of child I woulda been having all kinds of parties and boys in the house and could have very well gotten pregnant. I could have been anywhere, doing anything, and my mother would have never known. However, I had a healthy fear of my crazy ass mama which kept me in check and from getting outta contral. Kids today are VERY different and even the good ones are indiffirent to authority. So what do you do if you're a parent? I don't have kids but I certainly empathize with those that do, ESPECIALLY single parents. Thank you for saying this. I was latchkey too w/ 2 parents in the house from 2nd grade on up. Luckily I wasn't popular or seen as pretty so there was no problem w/ boys  But parents do what the fuck they can do the best they can (good ones, at least) & can't be in their kids faces every minute of every day. Even when they have time like that every kid hits that point where they break away from their parents & start making their own rules, like it or not. Kids are a crap shoot man, parents can only do so much...
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: CalhounSq said: It's totally unrealistic imo... & I would think that kind of high strung freak out would make the kid tune out b/c the energy is so frantic & stern... & absolute.  I can picture a dumpster thrower coming from a home like that, being SOOOOO freaked out by what they're parents will do/say...
. [Edited 5/19/08 16:20pm] this is why the "Values" parts of the country are such a mess. yup  I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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Stymie said: RodeoSchro said: Go to professionals and get more advice. I knew all about the pros and cons about sex, even knew that I was ovulating when I had sex. I did it anyway. Smart kid doing stupid things and I didn't even like sex then. Probably the only thing keeping her from disobeying me on this is she knows I would put her ass out if she got pregnant. That's real  I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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Dewrede said: veronikka said: Both kids will usually be charged, not just the one, if they both wanted it they are both guilty it's sick to bring kids to court usually not dealt with in court but there is consequences Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul | |
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Stymie said: Sorry Greg. I disagree with you to infinity. My daughter is 13. I had the talk with her. the church had the talk with her. Professionals had the talk with her. And you know what? If she wants to, she still will go out and have sex.
I knew all about the pros and cons about sex, even knew that I was ovulating when I had sex. I did it anyway. Smart kid doing stupid things and I didn't even like sex then. Probably the only thing keeping her from disobeying me on this is she knows I would put her ass out if she got pregnant. You would actually be one of those parents that kicks out their kid if they got pregnant? I find that hard to believe and if that is true I find that fact saddening, to be honest. | |
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I think to say that a parent didn't get the job done, if their child ends up pregnant, is a lil' too far reaching...every family has a differnt dynamic...what works in one household isn't necessarily gonna hold water in another... 
however, I think alot of parents simply teach their children what is right and what is wrong...they teach what is acceptable and what isn't...they then fail to teach that there are connsequences for your actions...maybe it's fear, maybe it's embarassment but they don't/won't/can't go into explicit detail that kids really need to hear...most children already know whats right and wrong without being told...but few grasp the reality of how becoming sexually active at a young age can affect the entirety of their life... | |
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JustErin said: Stymie said: Sorry Greg. I disagree with you to infinity. My daughter is 13. I had the talk with her. the church had the talk with her. Professionals had the talk with her. And you know what? If she wants to, she still will go out and have sex.
I knew all about the pros and cons about sex, even knew that I was ovulating when I had sex. I did it anyway. Smart kid doing stupid things and I didn't even like sex then. Probably the only thing keeping her from disobeying me on this is she knows I would put her ass out if she got pregnant. You would actually be one of those parents that kicks out their kid if they got pregnant? I find that hard to believe and if that is true I find that fact saddening, to be honest. I told my son that when he turned 18, he needed to be out of my house. He went away to college. He is temporarily home but come September, he is leaving me home for good. | |
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roodboi said: I think to say that a parent didn't get the job done, if their child ends up pregnant, is a lil' too far reaching...every family has a differnt dynamic...what works in one household isn't necessarily gonna hold water in another...
however, I think alot of parents simply teach their children what is right and what is wrong...they teach what is acceptable and what isn't...they then fail to teach that there are connsequences for your actions...maybe it's fear, maybe it's embarassment but they don't/won't/can't go into explicit detail that kids really need to hear...most children already know whats right and wrong without being told...but few grasp the reality of how becoming sexually active at a young age can affect the entirety of their life... There was no transition from teen to adult for me. i never got to be free and live on my own, you know? | |
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roodboi said: I think to say that a parent didn't get the job done, if their child ends up pregnant, is a lil' too far reaching...every family has a differnt dynamic...what works in one household isn't necessarily gonna hold water in another...
however, I think alot of parents simply teach their children what is right and what is wrong...they teach what is acceptable and what isn't...they then fail to teach that there are connsequences for your actions...maybe it's fear, maybe it's embarassment but they don't/won't/can't go into explicit detail that kids really need to hear...most children already know whats right and wrong without being told...but few grasp the reality of how becoming sexually active at a young age can affect the entirety of their life... I think at that age visits to battered women shelters, day cares, foster homes, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, food pantries and other places of the sort on a regular basis, especially during the summer months would be appropriate. Seeing human suffering, poverty and crying babies might make them at the least careful. | |
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SCNDLS said: amorbella said: She shouldnt have even been left alone with a boy long enough to have sex. Hell NO!!! At 12, you go to school, go straight home, and are never left unattended. What if you're a working mother? I was a latchkey kid from 2nd grade until I graduated from high school. My mother worked TWO jobs the ENTIRE time and worked on her Bachelor's and Master's. She left the house at 6 am and didn't come home until 10 pm, five days a week. I was responsible for getting myself to school and getting back home by 4:30 pm. If I was another type of child I woulda been having all kinds of parties and boys in the house and could have very well gotten pregnant. I could have been anywhere, doing anything, and my mother would have never known. However, I had a healthy fear of my crazy ass mama which kept me in check and from getting outta contral. Kids today are VERY different and even the good ones are indiffirent to authority. So what do you do if you're a parent? I don't have kids but I certainly empathize with those that do, ESPECIALLY single parents. That was Okay back then, times are different. Now you cant set down the law with your kids. You cant care them with an ass whippin. They have all these 1-800 numbers, and know what can/will happen if parents decide to hit them. They are taught in school that no form of "Hitting" is okay, and they use this to their advantage. Kids have access to everything now. The internet, the TV, dirty movies, magazines, pills and drugs.. When I was young, there where crazy people, but not as awful as today. I could walk home with other children and feel safe. I could stay in the house alone for awhile without fear of someone coming in and hurting me. I was afraid of acting up, cause I really did fear my parents, so I was a good kid. We didnt have the internet, and rated R movies didnt come on TV until after 8pm. By then I was in bed. I played in the dirt and rode my bike until I was 14. I would have never thought of throwing up my food at age 13. Single parents have it hard. But that is why there are after school programs, and other family members. Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize u simply imagined this So u lean over and give her a kiss Here on earth, here on earth, with u it's not so bad Here on earth, here on earth eye don't feel so sad Stay right here | |
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CalhounSq said: SCNDLS said: What if you're a working mother? I was a latchkey kid from 2nd grade until I graduated from high school. My mother worked TWO jobs the ENTIRE time and worked on her Bachelor's and Master's. She left the house at 6 am and didn't come home until 10 pm, five days a week. I was responsible for getting myself to school and getting back home by 4:30 pm. If I was another type of child I woulda been having all kinds of parties and boys in the house and could have very well gotten pregnant. I could have been anywhere, doing anything, and my mother would have never known. However, I had a healthy fear of my crazy ass mama which kept me in check and from getting outta contral. Kids today are VERY different and even the good ones are indiffirent to authority. So what do you do if you're a parent? I don't have kids but I certainly empathize with those that do, ESPECIALLY single parents. Thank you for saying this. I was latchkey too w/ 2 parents in the house from 2nd grade on up. Luckily I wasn't popular or seen as pretty so there was no problem w/ boys But parents do what the fuck they can do the best they can (good ones, at least) & can't be in their kids faces every minute of every day. Even when they have time like that every kid hits that point where they break away from their parents & start making their own rules, like it or not. Kids are a crap shoot man, parents can only do so much...
Like I said, times where different back then. Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize u simply imagined this So u lean over and give her a kiss Here on earth, here on earth, with u it's not so bad Here on earth, here on earth eye don't feel so sad Stay right here | |
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horatio said: roodboi said: I think to say that a parent didn't get the job done, if their child ends up pregnant, is a lil' too far reaching...every family has a differnt dynamic...what works in one household isn't necessarily gonna hold water in another...
however, I think alot of parents simply teach their children what is right and what is wrong...they teach what is acceptable and what isn't...they then fail to teach that there are connsequences for your actions...maybe it's fear, maybe it's embarassment but they don't/won't/can't go into explicit detail that kids really need to hear...most children already know whats right and wrong without being told...but few grasp the reality of how becoming sexually active at a young age can affect the entirety of their life... I think at that age visits to battered women shelters, day cares, foster homes, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, food pantries and other places of the sort on a regular basis, especially during the summer months would be appropriate. Seeing human suffering, poverty and crying babies might make them at the least careful. I think doing that is an excellent idea. However, I do believe it should be used as an education tool and not some scare tactic. | |
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amorbella said: SCNDLS said: What if you're a working mother? I was a latchkey kid from 2nd grade until I graduated from high school. My mother worked TWO jobs the ENTIRE time and worked on her Bachelor's and Master's. She left the house at 6 am and didn't come home until 10 pm, five days a week. I was responsible for getting myself to school and getting back home by 4:30 pm. If I was another type of child I woulda been having all kinds of parties and boys in the house and could have very well gotten pregnant. I could have been anywhere, doing anything, and my mother would have never known. However, I had a healthy fear of my crazy ass mama which kept me in check and from getting outta contral. Kids today are VERY different and even the good ones are indiffirent to authority. So what do you do if you're a parent? I don't have kids but I certainly empathize with those that do, ESPECIALLY single parents. That was Okay back then, times are different. Now you cant set down the law with your kids. You cant care them with an ass whippin. They have all these 1-800 numbers, and know what can/will happen if parents decide to hit them. They are taught in school that no form of "Hitting" is okay, and they use this to their advantage. Kids have access to everything now. The internet, the TV, dirty movies, magazines, pills and drugs.. When I was young, there where crazy people, but not as awful as today. I could walk home with other children and feel safe. I could stay in the house alone for awhile without fear of someone coming in and hurting me. I was afraid of acting up, cause I really did fear my parents, so I was a good kid. We didnt have the internet, and rated R movies didnt come on TV until after 8pm. By then I was in bed. I played in the dirt and rode my bike until I was 14. I would have never thought of throwing up my food at age 13. Single parents have it hard. But that is why there are after school programs, and other family members. In theory that's all well and good, but in my case, we couldn't afford aftercare and we didn't have ANY other family in the city we live in. Besides, my mother worked til 10 pm until I was out of high school. So what then? It's really easy to take a simplistic view at solutions but in the end, kids will always find a way to do what they want to do. Even if a parent is at home all day, every day. | |
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horatio said: roodboi said: I think to say that a parent didn't get the job done, if their child ends up pregnant, is a lil' too far reaching...every family has a differnt dynamic...what works in one household isn't necessarily gonna hold water in another...
however, I think alot of parents simply teach their children what is right and what is wrong...they teach what is acceptable and what isn't...they then fail to teach that there are connsequences for your actions...maybe it's fear, maybe it's embarassment but they don't/won't/can't go into explicit detail that kids really need to hear...most children already know whats right and wrong without being told...but few grasp the reality of how becoming sexually active at a young age can affect the entirety of their life... I think at that age visits to battered women shelters, day cares, foster homes, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, food pantries and other places of the sort on a regular basis, especially during the summer months would be appropriate. Seeing human suffering, poverty and crying babies might make them at the least careful. I agree, Horty... nothing snaps a kid back into reality better than REALITY... | |
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horatio said: roodboi said: I think to say that a parent didn't get the job done, if their child ends up pregnant, is a lil' too far reaching...every family has a differnt dynamic...what works in one household isn't necessarily gonna hold water in another...
however, I think alot of parents simply teach their children what is right and what is wrong...they teach what is acceptable and what isn't...they then fail to teach that there are connsequences for your actions...maybe it's fear, maybe it's embarassment but they don't/won't/can't go into explicit detail that kids really need to hear...most children already know whats right and wrong without being told...but few grasp the reality of how becoming sexually active at a young age can affect the entirety of their life... I think at that age visits to battered women shelters, day cares, foster homes, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, food pantries and other places of the sort on a regular basis, especially during the summer months would be appropriate. Seeing human suffering, poverty and crying babies might make them at the least careful. | |
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JustErin said: Statutory rape should only apply when a person who is the age of majority (or age of consent) has sex with a minor (or under age of consent), it should not apply when it's two consenting children.
damn girl ... why don't you start drinking
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amorbella said: CalhounSq said: Thank you for saying this. I was latchkey too w/ 2 parents in the house from 2nd grade on up. Luckily I wasn't popular or seen as pretty so there was no problem w/ boys But parents do what the fuck they can do the best they can (good ones, at least) & can't be in their kids faces every minute of every day. Even when they have time like that every kid hits that point where they break away from their parents & start making their own rules, like it or not. Kids are a crap shoot man, parents can only do so much...
Like I said, times where different back then. You make this sound like it's a choice. My mother didn't do this because she wanted to she didn't have any other alternatives. It's harder now, so what makes you think someone can CHOOSE to not have their kids stay at home alone while they work? | |
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amorbella said: SCNDLS said: What if you're a working mother? I was a latchkey kid from 2nd grade until I graduated from high school. My mother worked TWO jobs the ENTIRE time and worked on her Bachelor's and Master's. She left the house at 6 am and didn't come home until 10 pm, five days a week. I was responsible for getting myself to school and getting back home by 4:30 pm. If I was another type of child I woulda been having all kinds of parties and boys in the house and could have very well gotten pregnant. I could have been anywhere, doing anything, and my mother would have never known. However, I had a healthy fear of my crazy ass mama which kept me in check and from getting outta contral. Kids today are VERY different and even the good ones are indiffirent to authority. So what do you do if you're a parent? I don't have kids but I certainly empathize with those that do, ESPECIALLY single parents. That was Okay back then, times are different. Now you cant set down the law with your kids. You cant care them with an ass whippin. They have all these 1-800 numbers, and know what can/will happen if parents decide to hit them. They are taught in school that no form of "Hitting" is okay, and they use this to their advantage. Kids have access to everything now. The internet, the TV, dirty movies, magazines, pills and drugs.. When I was young, there where crazy people, but not as awful as today. I could walk home with other children and feel safe. I could stay in the house alone for awhile without fear of someone coming in and hurting me. I was afraid of acting up, cause I really did fear my parents, so I was a good kid. We didnt have the internet, and rated R movies didnt come on TV until after 8pm. By then I was in bed. I played in the dirt and rode my bike until I was 14. I would have never thought of throwing up my food at age 13. Single parents have it hard. But that is why there are after school programs, and other family members. I'm sorry, but I "lay down the law" in my household just fine and that's without giving my son an "ass whippin". | |
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SCNDLS said: amorbella said: Like I said, times where different back then. You make this sound like it's a choice. My mother didn't do this because she wanted to she didn't have any other alternatives. It's harder now, so what makes you think someone can CHOOSE to not have their kids stay at home alone while they work? Exactly... I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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Stymie said: horatio said: I think at that age visits to battered women shelters, day cares, foster homes, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, food pantries and other places of the sort on a regular basis, especially during the summer months would be appropriate. Seeing human suffering, poverty and crying babies might make them at the least careful.
kids are often way more influenced by their peers decisions and subsequent struggles from those decisions than they are by their parents constant reminders of right and wrong... | |
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RodeoSchro said: CalhounSq said: & if they can't afford the advice of a professional - what do they do then? Never stop asking for advice. Anyone can go to a church and talk to the pastor, for free. Sir, I get what you're saying and somewhat you are right. Parents can not pass on this kind of issues, action is required. But in these matters I can barely see 'The Church'/'A Church' as qualified professionals. I'm probably going to hell, but kids that have sex at age 12 sure ain't gonna listen to a pastor ... I can only imagine parents putting their responsibility on the shoulders of said pastor, thinking they have done enough while the kid in question badly needs support from the parents directly. I would sit the kid down and ask him/her what he/she was thinking while having sex ? Really, what was going through her mind when he was boning her. What was he thinking when he put his dick in her pussy. show her youtube vid's of crying babies from 10pm to 6am, then have her do the dishes and washing up all saturday. Repeat the next day. Have him going to work a few days in a daycare center (supervised ;lol: ) and donate whatever he earns to wellfare. Take them both to an AIDS clinic and let them talk to patients. Be involved, be creative and be a parent. | |
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BlueZebra said: RodeoSchro said: Never stop asking for advice. Anyone can go to a church and talk to the pastor, for free. Sir, I get what you're saying and somewhat you are right. Parents can not pass on this kind of issues, action is required. But in these matters I can barely see 'The Church'/'A Church' as qualified professionals. I'm probably going to hell, but kids that have sex at age 12 sure ain't gonna listen to a pastor ... I can only imagine parents putting their responsibility on the shoulders of said pastor, thinking they have done enough while the kid in question badly needs support from the parents directly. I would sit the kid down and ask him/her what he/she was thinking while having sex ? Really, what was going through her mind when he was boning her. What was he thinking when he put his dick in her pussy. show her youtube vid's of crying babies from 10pm to 6am, then have her do the dishes and washing up all saturday. Repeat the next day. Have him going to work a few days in a daycare center (supervised ;lol: ) and donate whatever he earns to wellfare. Take them both to an AIDS clinic and let them talk to patients. Be involved, be creative and be a parent. My mum used to always say to me "if you get pregnant by accident, we can raise the baby together  " and I would be like I'm NOT going to have a baby NO WAY!!!!! But I knew if it did happen I would be OK. I felt very supported.
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ZombieKitten said: BlueZebra said: Sir, I get what you're saying and somewhat you are right. Parents can not pass on this kind of issues, action is required. But in these matters I can barely see 'The Church'/'A Church' as qualified professionals. I'm probably going to hell, but kids that have sex at age 12 sure ain't gonna listen to a pastor ... I can only imagine parents putting their responsibility on the shoulders of said pastor, thinking they have done enough while the kid in question badly needs support from the parents directly. I would sit the kid down and ask him/her what he/she was thinking while having sex ? Really, what was going through her mind when he was boning her. What was he thinking when he put his dick in her pussy. show her youtube vid's of crying babies from 10pm to 6am, then have her do the dishes and washing up all saturday. Repeat the next day. Have him going to work a few days in a daycare center (supervised ;lol: ) and donate whatever he earns to wellfare. Take them both to an AIDS clinic and let them talk to patients. Be involved, be creative and be a parent. My mum used to always say to me "if you get pregnant by accident, we can raise the baby together " and I would be like I'm NOT going to have a baby NO WAY!!!!! But I knew if it did happen I would be OK. I felt very supported.
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whatever you parents do, don't be so repressed about talking about sex with your kids that you honestly think your 21 year old daughter who wants to move in with her boyfriend is going to live in a separate bedroom. | |
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evenstar3 said: whatever you parents do, don't be so repressed about talking about sex with your kids that you honestly think your 21 year old daughter who wants to move in with her boyfriend is going to live in a separate bedroom.
Wow! That is some hardcore denial I never understand parents who have OBVIOUSLY fucked cuz they have a kid(s) and then act like their kids are never going to do it. I talk openly about sex with my nephews to the point of embarrassment if that's what it takes for them to know what is up.2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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BlueZebra said: ZombieKitten said: My mum used to always say to me "if you get pregnant by accident, we can raise the baby together " and I would be like I'm NOT going to have a baby NO WAY!!!!! But I knew if it did happen I would be OK. I felt very supported.
Mind you, nobody wanted to have sex with me until I was 18 boys will be boys ... when did your rack develop ? I thought boys had one track minds! The ones who liked me were way too shy to tell me. My rack was coming along nicely by about age 14. | |
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evenstar3 said: whatever you parents do, don't be so repressed about talking about sex with your kids that you honestly think your 21 year old daughter who wants to move in with her boyfriend is going to live in a separate bedroom.
you have convinced your folks of that?  | |
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ZombieKitten said: BlueZebra said: boys will be boys ... when did your rack develop ? I thought boys had one track minds! The ones who liked me were way too shy to tell me. My rack was coming along nicely by about age 14. OMG, when did they turn into Fs?!  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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