RodeoSchro said:

I don't think threatening rape is going to help much. But certainly a talking to is needed with the boy, the girl and both parents. Just to go over the dangers not only of STDs but of the resposibilities of having a child at such a young age.

One thing I WOULD do is I'd take my daughter to get tested for STD's and Pregnancy not that she would have any or be pregnant (hopefully not)...but to scare the crap out of her by being in a Doctors office and having to explain to them why she is there.

JustErin said:

GREAT advice

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I think children can't be put on the pill. 2 kids by 14 huh? Not one...but two. Wow that's real smart! Wonder what her life is like.

RodeoSchro said:

Are you forgetting what it's like to be a kid? Not to mention how saturated most societies are w/ sex/sexual imagery these days?? You can't lock the kids in the basement - just teach them what's right & hope for the best, stay close to them & keep a handle on what they're up to. Even great parents can only do so much

RodeoSchro said:

Of course most parents are going to teach their kids that it's wrong, doesn't mean they're not gonna do what the hell they want to when they go to school, or the mall, or their friend's house. She wasn't fucking at home. So you can't control what your kids do or are exposed to when they leave your house and even at home they may STILL do things you're not aware of.

veronikka said:

It would seem that by definition, two people cannot rape each other.

RodeoSchro said:

Yeah, but that doesn't stop HER from having sex. Besides can't a woman be charged for Statuatory rape as well?

CalhounSq said:

That's exactly what I'm saying. If a 12-year-old is having sex, then the parents did NOT get the message across. I'm not saying they didn't try, but they did NOT get the job done.

SCNDLS said:

I have to disagree somewhat. If kids that young are screwing, mom and dad did NOT come anywhere CLOSE to getting the job done.

superspaceboy said:

Yes, they can be charged. Also, the parents of the girl have to figure out how to get the message across that she can't be having sex at age 12. Do whatever it takes.
[Edited 5/19/08 16:10pm]

RodeoSchro said:

& some kids are gonna do what they're gonna do What do you suggest if a parent has done all they know how to do?

CalhounSq said:

Go to professionals and get more advice.

RodeoSchro said:

So when you were 12 you listened to EVERY thing your parents told you to do and didn't deviate an inch??? You must have been an angel. And your kids must be perfect. However, for the rest of us mere mortals, it doesn't usually work that way. I didn't start having sex til I was in college, but with other stuff if it's something that I really wanted to do I ignored Mom and suffered the consequences. I did my share of sneaking out the window in my day but my stuff was minor in comparison to what's going today.

RodeoSchro said:

I don't think the thread is about rape, its about kids having sex and if minors are reported by someone to be having sex both are guilty of their doings, at least where I live they are, maybe its not the same in other states?

BlueZebra said:

Ohhh lawd

RodeoSchro said:

That makes no sense. You can teach your child all you want. Talking, Brochures, Powerpoint Slides and Graphs. It doesn't mean that they are going to get it or listen to you. Some kids are going to do what they want regardless of how well you DID teach and demonstrate and influence them.

thepope2the9s said:

She shouldnt have even been left alone with a boy long enough to have sex.
Hell NO!!!

At 12, you go to school, go straight home, and are never left unattended.

RodeoSchro said:

I get what you are saying, but I think your advice is pretty unrealistic and pretty unfair towards parents.

RodeoSchro said:

& if they can't afford the advice of a professional - what do they do then?

or get her one of these...

superspaceboy said:

It's totally unrealistic imo... & I would think that kind of high strung freak out would make the kid tune out b/c the energy is so frantic & stern... & absolute. I can picture a dumpster thrower coming from a home like that, being SOOOOO freaked out by what they're parents will do/say...



.
[Edited 5/19/08 16:20pm]

amorbella said:

What if you're a working mother? I was a latchkey kid from 2nd grade until I graduated from high school. My mother worked TWO jobs the ENTIRE time and worked on her Bachelor's and Master's. She left the house at 6 am and didn't come home until 10 pm, five days a week. I was responsible for getting myself to school and getting back home by 4:30 pm. If I was another type of child I woulda been having all kinds of parties and boys in the house and could have very well gotten pregnant. I could have been anywhere, doing anything, and my mother would have never known. However, I had a healthy fear of my crazy ass mama which kept me in check and from getting outta contral. Kids today are VERY different and even the good ones are indiffirent to authority. So what do you do if you're a parent? I don't have kids but I certainly empathize with those that do, ESPECIALLY single parents.

SCNDLS said:

Believe it or not, we have this problem in my kids' junior high school. There is an eighth-grader right now about to have a baby. Some of the kids play "Rainbow", where girls where different-colored lipstick and see who can deepthroat a boy the most.

And you damn well better believe that my wife and I have EXPLICITLY laid out what sex is about, and what happens when you do it. We realize there's a fine line between making your case, and overselling the deal.

But this isn't like toilet-papering someone's house and getting caught. This is REAL LIFE and FOREVER. My kids know that. We made damn sure they did.

I will NEVER buy into the argument of, "Well, kids will be kids so what are you going to do?" There are plenty of ways to show kids the consequences of certain actions.

CalhounSq said:

this is why the "Values" parts of the country are such a mess.

CalhounSq said:

Never stop asking for advice. Anyone can go to a church and talk to the pastor, for free.

RodeoSchro said:

you have strange laws in the USA for sure

do you not think it would damage a child to get him to court etc ?

that's just wrong imo

RodeoSchro said:

Sorry Greg. I disagree with you to infinity. My daughter is 13. I had the talk with her. the church had the talk with her. Professionals had the talk with her. And you know what? If she wants to, she still will go out and have sex.

I knew all about the pros and cons about sex, even knew that I was ovulating when I had sex. I did it anyway. Smart kid doing stupid things and I didn't even like sex then.

Probably the only thing keeping her from disobeying me on this is she knows I would put her ass out if she got pregnant.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

precisely

veronikka said:

it's sick to bring kids to court
[Edited 5/19/08 16:26pm]

RodeoSchro said:

So you really believe that just because you've discussed all of these issues with your kids it will 100% prevent them from possibly ignoring your guidance, doing what they want to do, and possibly making a mistake in judgment? If you do, good for you.