Thecherryloon said:

So you're saying that as a comparison? Are you saying that there is no discrimination, TODAY. Are you saying that I as a black woman can buy a house in Bridgeport, Chicago, TODAY, where as or RIGHT NOW no black people have ever lived in BRIGEPORT, CHICAGO. Are you saying that the justice system is fair to blacks when TODAY we make up 80 % of the jail population, but only 20% of the American population? How do you compare this to what happened in WW2.

4LOVE said:

i don't do 'what if's' i'm coming from a non-fiction stance.

what you're talking about is envy, i see high powered black men and women everyday.I feel those that moan about the past are too damn lazy to do anything about their future.

Khumbayaaa my lord...khumbayaaa

Thecherryloon said:

That's the way to ease out of it.I gave you an example that you KNOW has went on over and over in the U.S.I tried to reverse roles so you could see but maybe that's the problem.

NuPwrSoul said:

Dayyum it's happening again. LOL. Anybody, anybody? Maybe I need to call someone an epithet to get a response.

IceNine said:

No problem, all's forgiven.

Thecherryloon said:

uh...oh

Thecherryloon said:

Certainly no more lazier than all those white people who lay around in their plantation houses while the slaves farmed their crops, cooked their food, washed their clothes, and even nursed their own little white babies ALL FOR FREE.

NOW THAT IS SOME LAZY SHIT.

If we are lazy it's only because we learned from the master.
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[This message was edited Sat Nov 2 12:52:18 PST 2002 by NuPwrSoul]

rdhull said:

It's not worth a serious response and actually supports what i was saying.

NuPwrSoul said:

This is so true. But problems like these, which are detrimental to the entire society will continue to exist until people face the truth and just deal with it for what it REALLY is.

Acuna-Matadaaa

4LOVE said:

word...I was just taken aback at the statement..I mean really now...but anyways..acunamatadaa...acunaa..

NuPwrSoul said:

NuPwrSoul, don't let this person get you upset. That's the best way to avoid the subject has I have learned from past experience. Stay cool, and present your case, the truth will come out evenually!

4LOVE said:

Well you have to give me some slack here. i'm in the UK so not familiar with the housing situation in Chicago.So what you are getting is an outsiders view.

It does seem true that black people are even envious of other successful black people though.Why is that? example - i was travelling home on the bus from work the other night, and three black lads got on looking and speaking like they were from South Central LA (don't forget this is in a sleepy industrial town in the north of England, so quite far removed) Another black man, maybe in his late 30's got on the bus wearing a suit, tie and carrying a briefcase.All those lads did was bait and goad him all the way home.Don't you think that was a disgusting thing to do?

Surely everyone should aspire to better thereselves.
[This message was edited Sat Nov 2 13:01:19 PST 2002 by Thecherryloon]

SweeTea said:

And you've done very well sweettea.Keep putting in the work

Thecherryloon said:

What he just described is not only fiction to you, but it's envy???


God help me.

God help you.

God help us all.



Hoping to God this doesn't turn into a monotonous God doesn't exist debate...

IceNine said:

This is your scapegoat for not addressing the root of the problem. Which is anger. And justified as you say. The fact that the people responsible for this anger are white is not the fault of Mr. Farrakan. Therefore, how can you call him a racist, when racist hate based on race alone and for no other reason but race.

Supernova said:

Supernova said:

no, it was a hypothetical question in the first place,therefore it would take a fictional answer.

Thecherryloon said:

Thecherryloon said:

In my opinion this issue does not need to be addressed as it not the topic of discussion.

Thecherryloon said:

Actually it wasn't.

Thecherryloon said:

I rest my case

Besides, he's in Europe and hge wishes to be given so slack, therefore he couldn't possible comment on this topic with any real relevance.

SweeTea said:

This is the current question on the table.

SweeTea said:

ROFL

SweeTea said:

Well don't jump on me making me out to be a bad guy! I'm not American nor am i black, and i'm sure not a racist.I'd like to see equality all over the board, Men, women, race, sexuality and disability, just not to the detriment of anyone else.

does Farrakan want that?

something tells me not.

SweeTea said:

Why should he/she be given slack? ..what was said was ingorant regardless of where you live.

AbucahX said:

I don't see what's so funny, we take notice of what is happening in the world, unlike insular America, the centre of the universe

SweeTea said:

Hmm this is another question entirely and strictly speaking is off-topic. However... Yes of course it does justify anger, but there is no justification for racism.

Without wishing to hijack the thread: my people (Irish) suffered terribly under British occupation for hundreds of years before we finally achieved independence (for 26 out of 32 counties anyway).

Does that justify Irish anger about those events, aimed at Britain and what Britain did to Ireland? Of course it does, every Irish person feels that way. However it doesn't mean I feel that I am a superior race, or that British people are lesser people or anything like that. I don't hate British people.

Unfortunately the "racist card" gets played far too often and no doubt it has been used countless times to detract from the credibility of people like Farrakhan. Of course, if some of the quotes being thrown around on the Org yesterday are accurate, he only has himself to blame, but that's another day's discussion.