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Reply #60 posted 05/14/08 12:51am

Jochem

superspaceboy said:

I think most are bisexual in nature but end up leaning one way or another based on conditions and desires.

I think there is a whole spectrum of sexuality.
Like a Rainbow. there's lots of colors between Red and Violet.

I imagine Heterosexuality to be like the color Red and Homosexuality to be like the color Violet. (and Bisexuality is in the middle (Green)).



People should do whatever they feel is right for them.

I have some female sides in my personality, my wife has certain male aspects to her character.
It's the mix that should be ok with the both of you.

Speaking for myself, I love men just as I do women.
I can be attracted to both on a spiritual level.
Physically, I'm not attracted to men.
I consider myself to be an Orange/Yellow person...
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Reply #61 posted 05/14/08 12:55am

shuggie

Jochem said:

superspaceboy said:

I think most are bisexual in nature but end up leaning one way or another based on conditions and desires.

I think there is a whole spectrum of sexuality.
Like a Rainbow. there's lots of colors between Red and Violet.

I imagine Heterosexuality to be like the color Red and Homosexuality to be like the color Violet. (and Bisexuality is in the middle (Green)).



People should do whatever they feel is right for them.

I have some female sides in my personality, my wife has certain male aspects to her character.
It's the mix that should be ok with the both of you.

Speaking for myself, I love men just as I do women.
I can be attracted to both on a spiritual level.
Physically, I'm not attracted to men.
I consider myself to be an Orange/Yellow person...


Co-sign. You just said what I did but in a much nicer, more colourful way. smile

hmmm That spectrum sure is pretty. Are you sure you're not more purplish? lol
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Reply #62 posted 05/14/08 1:38am

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Jochem said:

superspaceboy said:

I think most are bisexual in nature but end up leaning one way or another based on conditions and desires.

I think there is a whole spectrum of sexuality.
Like a Rainbow. there's lots of colors between Red and Violet.

I imagine Heterosexuality to be like the color Red and Homosexuality to be like the color Violet. (and Bisexuality is in the middle (Green)).



People should do whatever they feel is right for them.

I have some female sides in my personality, my wife has certain male aspects to her character.
It's the mix that should be ok with the both of you.

Speaking for myself, I love men just as I do women.
I can be attracted to both on a spiritual level.
Physically, I'm not attracted to men.
I consider myself to be an Orange/Yellow person...


i am Violet, the Organ Grinder...
yes SIR!
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Reply #63 posted 05/14/08 1:47am

KidaDynamite

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superspaceboy said:

IstenSzek said:

in the words of the fabulous linda la hughes:

"there's no such thing as bisexual, it's just greed"

smile


SOme women have a hard time with bisexual men.

Like How? eek
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surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years...
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Reply #64 posted 05/14/08 1:57am

shanti0608

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I am bi and I am attracted to people in general. Different things attract me to different folks. I am more attracted physically and sexually to women but find that men stimulate me more mentally. I really don't give a damn if folx think we are greedy or confused or whatever, I spend little time pondering whether someone is truly straight.
[Edited 5/13/08 14:00pm]



You sound perfectly normal to me. You love ppl for who they are not what sex they are.

I can relate.

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Reply #65 posted 05/14/08 4:31am

LleeLlee

Imago said:

okkkkkaaaaay.

I'm not sure which one I find more attractive physically. I would think men.
But there are aspects of women that I find incredible.
Also women just present so many fewer problems then men.

As flirtatious as I can be, and as misbehaved as I've been at times in my life in the past, I'm being awfully judgemental to other men, but we're depraved whores compared to most women.
It's not that women don't want sex all the time. It's not that they don't want to do some pretty kinky stuff. It's that they present themselves with alot more self-respect, restraint, and class, always trying to maintain SOME dignity about it.
Men seem to pride themselves in acting like animals.


I exist in a world where I have been all too comfortable just identifying myself as striaght, and picking and chosing when or if to hop the fence (contrary to popular belief this is not often lol), due to many of the afore mentioned factors (cowardice, convinience, and privileage).

You simply don't flaunt an alternative sexuality in my career field. It spells doom for your career even if those around you claim to be tolerant.


This strange twilight zone of sexual energy I seem to exude towards folks seems to get me alot of attention at times. There's a certain type of gay man that seems to absolutely go for me--it's usually one who's dealing with a good deal of repression about being gay. I've had gay men in my life "come out" to just me and me alone, making me promise to take their secret to my grave.

And then I've had GHEY gay men find me either repressed or irrisistable depending on where they are on their journey--and I'm starting to realize it really is a journy for those who identify themselves are being purely gay.

Ultimately, if I could pick and chose those that I would rather be with, I'd probably pick women. All the complications that come with a 'hetero' relationship are dwarfed, in my opinion, of what comes with a gay relationship. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind about that.




That being said, I've never had to think about or express my attraction towards other men. Nor , for cowardly reasons mostly, or for convinience, had to contemplate a true relationship with another man.
I still look at other men as competition. I still find other men , especially strong, alpha males, as a threat or something to be 'dealt with'. Not exactly a good recipe for romance lol So even in my mid 30s I've never had to 'come out' so to speak about this aspect of my life. Repressed? Yeah. sure. Confused? I guess so. Sad, and cowardly? You bet.

But I've said this before on my myspace blogs. I may be a full grown man who is working on climbing the corporate later, setting up a house, planning for retirement, etc. etc. But emotionally, I'm still just a boy. I'm still just an ill tempered, vain, often frightenned little boy. I've built such an emotional shell around me through years of conditioning that I don't identify with this or that sexual orientation at all.

Yes, I can come off as suprisingly masculine, but it's because I've deliberately done this. It's like I'm trying to strike a balance between fem (hair, etc. etc.) and butch (my voice, etc.) that I appear confused and repressed. I confuse everyone around me. All the time. And at times I love it. lol At others, I realize how alone I've been, even around my closest friends.

I'm out of place. If you were to stick me in a group of gay men, I would view them with odd fascination, some adoration, but a bit of discomfort--I don't exist in that world except to get my feet wet or ass licked shrug

Stick me in a group of straight men, and I have a blast... until they start talking about marriage, or kids, etc. etc. Then I get a bit uncomfortable.

Stick me in a group of bi-sexual men (and when I was in the military my two closes male friends were bi believe it or not) and I get uncomfortable as well. Most folks who label themselves bisexual (if indeed they REALLY are), are very promiscous and sexual. I know it's a stereotype but they are. And I've never been one who went to nightclubs simply looking to score--though it happenned from time to time.



That being said, I'm currently madly in love with a man. And I've never felt this much in love. Like , ever. There, I said it. shrug




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I love your long winded answers.
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Reply #66 posted 05/14/08 4:37am

LleeLlee

I'm straight but I enjoyed this, she looks hot. smile
http://www.youtube.com/wa...tnix7W9NKY


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Reply #67 posted 05/14/08 7:22am

ButterscotchPi
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I think that's more the case for women than men.
A larger number of women tend to be bisexual or even have bisexual thoughts but never act on them.
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y'all gone keep messin' around wit me and turn me back to the old me......
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Reply #68 posted 05/14/08 7:33am

Imago

LleeLlee said:

Imago said:

okkkkkaaaaay.

I'm not sure which one I find more attractive physically. I would think men.
But there are aspects of women that I find incredible.
Also women just present so many fewer problems then men.

As flirtatious as I can be, and as misbehaved as I've been at times in my life in the past, I'm being awfully judgemental to other men, but we're depraved whores compared to most women.
It's not that women don't want sex all the time. It's not that they don't want to do some pretty kinky stuff. It's that they present themselves with alot more self-respect, restraint, and class, always trying to maintain SOME dignity about it.
Men seem to pride themselves in acting like animals.

I feel that my post is the most significant contribution to this thread, if not for any thread in the entire history of the org.

And that's not just ego talking. shrug

I exist in a world where I have been all too comfortable just identifying myself as striaght, and picking and chosing when or if to hop the fence (contrary to popular belief this is not often lol), due to many of the afore mentioned factors (cowardice, convinience, and privileage).

You simply don't flaunt an alternative sexuality in my career field. It spells doom for your career even if those around you claim to be tolerant.


This strange twilight zone of sexual energy I seem to exude towards folks seems to get me alot of attention at times. There's a certain type of gay man that seems to absolutely go for me--it's usually one who's dealing with a good deal of repression about being gay. I've had gay men in my life "come out" to just me and me alone, making me promise to take their secret to my grave.

And then I've had GHEY gay men find me either repressed or irrisistable depending on where they are on their journey--and I'm starting to realize it really is a journy for those who identify themselves are being purely gay.

Ultimately, if I could pick and chose those that I would rather be with, I'd probably pick women. All the complications that come with a 'hetero' relationship are dwarfed, in my opinion, of what comes with a gay relationship. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind about that.




That being said, I've never had to think about or express my attraction towards other men. Nor , for cowardly reasons mostly, or for convinience, had to contemplate a true relationship with another man.
I still look at other men as competition. I still find other men , especially strong, alpha males, as a threat or something to be 'dealt with'. Not exactly a good recipe for romance lol So even in my mid 30s I've never had to 'come out' so to speak about this aspect of my life. Repressed? Yeah. sure. Confused? I guess so. Sad, and cowardly? You bet.

But I've said this before on my myspace blogs. I may be a full grown man who is working on climbing the corporate later, setting up a house, planning for retirement, etc. etc. But emotionally, I'm still just a boy. I'm still just an ill tempered, vain, often frightenned little boy. I've built such an emotional shell around me through years of conditioning that I don't identify with this or that sexual orientation at all.

Yes, I can come off as suprisingly masculine, but it's because I've deliberately done this. It's like I'm trying to strike a balance between fem (hair, etc. etc.) and butch (my voice, etc.) that I appear confused and repressed. I confuse everyone around me. All the time. And at times I love it. lol At others, I realize how alone I've been, even around my closest friends.

I'm out of place. If you were to stick me in a group of gay men, I would view them with odd fascination, some adoration, but a bit of discomfort--I don't exist in that world except to get my feet wet or ass licked shrug

Stick me in a group of straight men, and I have a blast... until they start talking about marriage, or kids, etc. etc. Then I get a bit uncomfortable.

Stick me in a group of bi-sexual men (and when I was in the military my two closes male friends were bi believe it or not) and I get uncomfortable as well. Most folks who label themselves bisexual (if indeed they REALLY are), are very promiscous and sexual. I know it's a stereotype but they are. And I've never been one who went to nightclubs simply looking to score--though it happenned from time to time.



That being said, I'm currently madly in love with a man. And I've never felt this much in love. Like , ever. There, I said it. shrug




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[Edited 5/14/08 1:13am]


I love your long winded answers.
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Reply #69 posted 05/14/08 10:25am

NDRU

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

NDRU said:



yes, absolutely. I think they are scared to admit that of course they can tell if a man is good looking!

I also think that (and this may become controversial) that many gay men & women are still attracted to the opposite sex, and that may be part of the reason you see what appears to be "sexual roles" in a relationship. Like one woman seems much more masculine than the other. In many lesbian relationships I have witnessed, the more feminine woman may come from a history of dating men, or may go back to it. So it's not surprising that her choice in a woman is masculine. I suppose that would fall under the bi category, but sometimes I wonder.

I hope I'm not offending anyone, I'm not judging, I'm just thinking aloud and this seems like the thread to do it.
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You're not offending me. It's good to hear what other people think.


Sometimes it's hard to have an opinion, like my opinion on the African American experience, the gay experience, the female experience... smile
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Reply #70 posted 05/14/08 4:27pm

Anxiety

i think that if you're having a good time and you don't feel like you're missing out on something that would be relatively harmless to try, there's nothing to worry about and you don't need to fuss over what to call yourself.
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Reply #71 posted 05/14/08 4:33pm

JoeTyler

I truly believe everebody is more or less bisexual in terms of pure sexuality; but I believe that bisexuality doesn't exist in an emotional level (falling in love, affection/tenderness, crushes, etc.)

But it's only my opinion, of course, based on my own experience
tinkerbell
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Reply #72 posted 05/14/08 4:41pm

NDRU

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JoeTyler said:

I truly believe everebody is more or less bisexual in terms of pure sexuality; but I believe that bisexuality doesn't exist in an emotional level (falling in love, affection/tenderness, crushes, etc.)

But it's only my opinion, of course, based on my own experience


Seems to be the only way we can judge, based on our own experience. And my own experience tells me very differently! But it's hard to argue against what someone else feels about their own sexuality.

That's the problem with someone dictating what is acceptable and what is not. If they banned straight sex, you can guarantee I'd soon be a criminal because it's not wrong no matter what anyone says! biggrin
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Reply #73 posted 05/14/08 4:44pm

JoeTyler

NDRU said:

JoeTyler said:

I truly believe everebody is more or less bisexual in terms of pure sexuality; but I believe that bisexuality doesn't exist in an emotional level (falling in love, affection/tenderness, crushes, etc.)

But it's only my opinion, of course, based on my own experience


Seems to be the only way we can judge, based on our own experience. And my own experience tells me very differently! But it's hard to argue against what someone else feels about their own sexuality.

That's the problem with someone dictating what is acceptable and what is not. If they banned straight sex, you can guarantee I'd soon be a criminal because it's not wrong no matter what anyone says! biggrin


I agree
tinkerbell
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Reply #74 posted 05/14/08 4:54pm

Moonstar319

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superspaceboy said:

I think most are bisexual in nature but end up leaning one way or another based on conditions and desires.

What are your thoughts on this? Do you think there is such a thing or that people are simply confused? Are you Bi? If so do you like both equally or do you prefer one gender over another?

Dan? biggrin


I think we are all bi by nature in a sense. Most people I know have some sort of curiousity, but not all act on that curiousity.

As for myself, I'm a "curious child" and act on it. wink lol I'm attracted to both genders equally. I tend to refer to myself as bi. Not only is it a physical attraction to some members of the same sex, it's also an emotional attraction. I have fallen for a few and have had my heart broken by a few. It hurts just as much as a straight relationship.
"When words fail, music speaks..." --- Shakespeare
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Reply #75 posted 05/14/08 6:08pm

Anxiety

JoeTyler said:

I truly believe everebody is more or less bisexual in terms of pure sexuality; but I believe that bisexuality doesn't exist in an emotional level (falling in love, affection/tenderness, crushes, etc.)

But it's only my opinion, of course, based on my own experience


i don't know. i believe in (and have had!) what i call "friend crushes", where i am SO emotionally drawn to someone that i want to just love them to pieces, but it has absolutely ZERO to do with sexual attraction and i've felt it for both men and women. it's just more of this feeling of, "oh my god, i admire you so much and i want to protect you and do nice things for you and make sure you know how amazing you are". it's completely intense and it feels like the most beautiful, non-conditional love in the world. but that's all it is.

lasts about three days, usually. lol
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Reply #76 posted 05/14/08 6:13pm

JoeTyler

Anxiety said:

JoeTyler said:

I truly believe everebody is more or less bisexual in terms of pure sexuality; but I believe that bisexuality doesn't exist in an emotional level (falling in love, affection/tenderness, crushes, etc.)

But it's only my opinion, of course, based on my own experience


i don't know. i believe in (and have had!) what i call "friend crushes", where i am SO emotionally drawn to someone that i want to just love them to pieces, but it has absolutely ZERO to do with sexual attraction and i've felt it for both men and women. it's just more of this feeling of, "oh my god, i admire you so much and i want to protect you and do nice things for you and make sure you know how amazing you are". it's completely intense and it feels like the most beautiful, non-conditional love in the world. but that's all it is.

lasts about three days, usually. lol



Well, that happened to me with David Bowie! lol

Anyway, I agree with you wink , but somehow (again, it's my opinion)I don't consider it bisexuality, just some kind of intense admiration...
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Reply #77 posted 05/14/08 6:23pm

Anxiety

JoeTyler said:

Anxiety said:



i don't know. i believe in (and have had!) what i call "friend crushes", where i am SO emotionally drawn to someone that i want to just love them to pieces, but it has absolutely ZERO to do with sexual attraction and i've felt it for both men and women. it's just more of this feeling of, "oh my god, i admire you so much and i want to protect you and do nice things for you and make sure you know how amazing you are". it's completely intense and it feels like the most beautiful, non-conditional love in the world. but that's all it is.

lasts about three days, usually. lol



Well, that happened to me with David Bowie! lol

Anyway, I agree with you wink , but somehow (again, it's my opinion)I don't consider it bisexuality, just some kind of intense admiration...


well, those feelings are similar to when i am in love with someone, but the added component of physical attraction tends to give those feelings of love & awe more of an understandable context, i guess. i don't know if i'd consider "friend crushes" bisexuality. maybe "bi-amorous-ity"? lol
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Reply #78 posted 05/14/08 6:27pm

JoeTyler

Anxiety said:

JoeTyler said:




Well, that happened to me with David Bowie! lol

Anyway, I agree with you wink , but somehow (again, it's my opinion)I don't consider it bisexuality, just some kind of intense admiration...


well, those feelings are similar to when i am in love with someone, but the added component of physical attraction tends to give those feelings of love & awe more of an understandable context, i guess. i don't know if i'd consider "friend crushes" bisexuality. maybe "bi-amorous-ity"? lol


and there you have it nod I agree
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Reply #79 posted 05/14/08 7:30pm

alwayslate

I never really thought about being bisexual or anything like that until I became sexually attracted to a woman. I don't think that ever happened before. I always just "assumed" I was completely hetero before I met her. After we got together I started "noticing" other women. Now I have sexual thoughts about women more often. More often than men these days.
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Reply #80 posted 05/14/08 8:19pm

obsessed

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It's not something I really give any thought to anymore. lol I married the person I love and she's a woman. If that makes me officially straight it's cool with me. One word could never encompass other aspects of me and my personality so I doubt it could when it comes to this issue. I just love, like, feel attracted to what and whoever I love, like, feel attracted to. As a man with his soul mate I'm not trying to hook up with anybody, or cheat with someone, or get my rocks off thinking about anybody else so it's really not complicated. It's not lust, it's love, and I'm quite happy giving love to men or women. smile


This really describes me as well...only I'm a woman, married to a wonderful
man. But in the same token I'm very attracted to other people, men and
women both, (although I wouldn't describe myself as bi)...but I love them, not lust them.
There is a big difference, as you so eloquently put it.

With my good friends I show a lot of love, and I don't think any of them
interpret it that I'm "after" them...hopefully...lol
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Reply #81 posted 05/14/08 8:21pm

obsessed

Oh, and shuggie, why does your profile say you're female?
jist askin'..... lol
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Reply #82 posted 05/14/08 8:23pm

Imago

obsessed said:

Oh, and shuggie, why does your profile say you're female?
jist askin'..... lol

There are so many reasons why it would take forever to explain the answer.
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Reply #83 posted 05/14/08 8:29pm

obsessed

Imago said:

obsessed said:

Oh, and shuggie, why does your profile say you're female?
jist askin'..... lol

There are so many reasons why it would take forever to explain the answer.


You could just give one! lol
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Reply #84 posted 05/14/08 8:31pm

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obsessed said:

Oh, and shuggie, why does your profile say you're female?
jist askin'..... lol


ooo ooh, I know! wave
surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years...
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Reply #85 posted 05/14/08 8:32pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

obsessed said:

Imago said:


There are so many reasons why it would take forever to explain the answer.


You could just give one! lol

...because his wife hasnt figured out hes using it yet! bored
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Reply #86 posted 05/14/08 8:37pm

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Muse2NOPharaoh said:

obsessed said:



You could just give one! lol

...because his wife hasnt figured out hes using it yet! bored


Damn...pout
surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years...
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Reply #87 posted 05/14/08 8:45pm

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JerseyKRS said:

Erin believes every woman is a little bisexual.


I completely disagree with this. I had a guy friend in high school who swore up and down that every girl secretly had lesbian tendancies. (I think he just wanted to believe that any girl he dated might do girl-on-girl for him. lol ) I can appreciate if other woman are pretty/attractive but I've never wanted to hook up with one. shrug



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Reply #88 posted 05/14/08 8:50pm

obsessed

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

obsessed said:



You could just give one! lol

...because his wife hasnt figured out hes using it yet! bored


Oh, now it's startin' to make sense....lol
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Reply #89 posted 05/14/08 8:51pm

obsessed

KidaDynamite said:

Muse2NOPharaoh said:


...because his wife hasnt figured out hes using it yet! bored


Damn...pout


Obviously that's the same answer you were gonna give.. shrug
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