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Thread started 05/08/08 11:50am

Twiki

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Nazis on the moon = one cool-looking movie

From the makers of Star Wreck:




More info on it:
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Reply #1 posted 05/08/08 11:57am

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I have never even thought of this before now but this implies the moon does not rotate. If it did, this would have been revealed through telescopic observance. Is that true? lol
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Reply #2 posted 05/08/08 11:57am

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Very interesting. Is Star Wreck uploaded in its entirety online... for free?
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Reply #3 posted 05/08/08 11:58am

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WTF???? Have you seen the crew of his website???? They actually look like nazis!!!

eek

What is this??
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Reply #4 posted 05/08/08 11:58am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I have never even thought of this before now but this implies the moon does not rotate. If it did, this would have been revealed through telescopic observance. Is that true? lol


You're correct, but I think that's just one of the many willing suspensions of disbelief you have to make for the movie. biggrin
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Reply #5 posted 05/08/08 12:02pm

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Twiki said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I have never even thought of this before now but this implies the moon does not rotate. If it did, this would have been revealed through telescopic observance. Is that true? lol


You're correct, but I think that's just one of the many willing suspensions of disbelief you have to make for the movie. biggrin


My god, I can't believe it took 38 years to know this lol
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Reply #6 posted 05/08/08 12:03pm

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I noticed that out moon doesn't rotate as it orbits our earth. Is our moon the only moon in our solar system that doesn't rotate?

Be a little careful . . . the Moon does rotate. If you stood on the Moon, the stars would rise and set, just like they do on Earth, except that a lunar day is a month long, the same as the Moon's orbital period. The Moon rotates at just the right speed so that it always keeps one face pointed toward the Earth, which seems like a pretty big coincidence, doesn't it?

Your question is very interesting because the answer is that, no, the Moon is not unique. Almost all moons in the Solar System keep one face pointed toward their planet. (The only exception we know of is Hyperion, a moon of Saturn.) This tells us it's probably not a coincidence, that there is probably a reason for this to happen, a physical process that happens to most moons to slow their rotation.

That process is called tidal friction. You probably know that the Moon's gravity affects the Earth's oceans. Well, the Earth's gravity also affects the Moon. It distorts the Moon's shape slightly, squashing it out so that it is elongated along a line that points toward the Earth. We say that the Earth raises "tidal bulges" on the Moon.

The Earth's gravity pulls on the closest tidal bulge, trying to keep it aligned with Earth. As the Moon turns, feeling the Earth's gravity, this creates friction within the Moon, slowing the Moon's rotation down until its rotation matches its orbital period exactly, a state we call tidal synchronization. In this state, the Moon's tidal bulge is always aligned with Earth, which means that the Moon always keeps one face toward Earth.

Other planets raise tides on their moons, too, so almost all the moons in the Solar System are tidally synchronized. There's even one planet that is sychronized to its moon! Charon, Pluto's moon, is so large and so close to Pluto that the planet and moon are both locked into the same rotational rate. The Moon slows the Earth's rotation, too, but at a very slow rate, increasing the length of the day by a couple of milliseconds each century.

You might be wondering what's up with Hyperion. Gravitational interaction with other moons of Saturn cause Hyperion to tumble chaotically, so Saturn doesn't even get a chance at tidal synchronization before Hyperion's rotational state is changed by another moon. There may be other small moons that behave in this manner, as well, but it is difficult to measure the rotational periods of small moons around distant planets, so we don't know of any yet.



wow! lol
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Reply #7 posted 05/08/08 12:07pm

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abierman said:

WTF???? Have you seen the crew of his website???? They actually look like nazis!!!

eek

What is this??


I hadn't looked at the crew before, but naw, they're just Finnish. And tring to be funny.
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Reply #8 posted 05/08/08 12:07pm

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when and where is this movie playing?
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Reply #9 posted 05/08/08 12:07pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I noticed that out moon doesn't rotate as it orbits our earth. Is our moon the only moon in our solar system that doesn't rotate?

Be a little careful . . . the Moon does rotate. If you stood on the Moon, the stars would rise and set, just like they do on Earth, except that a lunar day is a month long, the same as the Moon's orbital period. The Moon rotates at just the right speed so that it always keeps one face pointed toward the Earth, which seems like a pretty big coincidence, doesn't it?

Your question is very interesting because the answer is that, no, the Moon is not unique. Almost all moons in the Solar System keep one face pointed toward their planet. (The only exception we know of is Hyperion, a moon of Saturn.) This tells us it's probably not a coincidence, that there is probably a reason for this to happen, a physical process that happens to most moons to slow their rotation.

That process is called tidal friction. You probably know that the Moon's gravity affects the Earth's oceans. Well, the Earth's gravity also affects the Moon. It distorts the Moon's shape slightly, squashing it out so that it is elongated along a line that points toward the Earth. We say that the Earth raises "tidal bulges" on the Moon.

The Earth's gravity pulls on the closest tidal bulge, trying to keep it aligned with Earth. As the Moon turns, feeling the Earth's gravity, this creates friction within the Moon, slowing the Moon's rotation down until its rotation matches its orbital period exactly, a state we call tidal synchronization. In this state, the Moon's tidal bulge is always aligned with Earth, which means that the Moon always keeps one face toward Earth.

Other planets raise tides on their moons, too, so almost all the moons in the Solar System are tidally synchronized. There's even one planet that is sychronized to its moon! Charon, Pluto's moon, is so large and so close to Pluto that the planet and moon are both locked into the same rotational rate. The Moon slows the Earth's rotation, too, but at a very slow rate, increasing the length of the day by a couple of milliseconds each century.

You might be wondering what's up with Hyperion. Gravitational interaction with other moons of Saturn cause Hyperion to tumble chaotically, so Saturn doesn't even get a chance at tidal synchronization before Hyperion's rotational state is changed by another moon. There may be other small moons that behave in this manner, as well, but it is difficult to measure the rotational periods of small moons around distant planets, so we don't know of any yet.



wow! lol


he wasn't saying anything i didn't know already. smile
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Reply #10 posted 05/08/08 12:10pm

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horatio said:

when and where is this movie playing?


Nowhere yet. It looks like they just released this trailer in order to get some funding (by selling "war bonds" on their site).
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Reply #11 posted 05/08/08 12:14pm

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abierman said:

WTF???? Have you seen the crew of his website???? They actually look like nazis!!!

eek

What is this??

They are Finns falloff
It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.

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Reply #12 posted 05/08/08 12:30pm

abierman

FuNkeNsteiN said:

abierman said:

WTF???? Have you seen the crew of his website???? They actually look like nazis!!!

eek

What is this??

They are Finns falloff


Finns look like Nazis???? eek
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Reply #13 posted 05/08/08 1:01pm

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abierman said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:


They are Finns falloff


Finns look like Nazis???? eek

No lol

Well ok, some might lol
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Reply #14 posted 05/08/08 1:47pm

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Reply #15 posted 05/08/08 3:02pm

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so the nazis managed to somehow construct a life supporting
atmosphere around the moon and found a way to counter it's
minor gravitational pull.

it's scifi, i know, but it's still incredibly lame lol
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Reply #16 posted 05/08/08 4:47pm

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IstenSzek said:

so the nazis managed to somehow construct a life supporting
atmosphere around the moon and found a way to counter it's
minor gravitational pull.

it's scifi, i know, but it's still incredibly lame lol


Well, it's sci-fi comedy. It's supposed to be a little tongue-in-cheek.
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Reply #17 posted 05/08/08 9:07pm

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Twiki said:

IstenSzek said:

so the nazis managed to somehow construct a life supporting
atmosphere around the moon and found a way to counter it's
minor gravitational pull.

it's scifi, i know, but it's still incredibly lame lol


Well, it's sci-fi comedy. It's supposed to be a little tongue-in-cheek.

nod

And not even 'a little', it's completely tongue-in-cheek lol
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