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Thread started 05/01/08 8:22pm

evenstar3

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$60,000 for canned poo



Piero Manzoni (1933-63) - Merda d'artista (Artist's Shit), 1961

"Piero Manzoni was an Italian artist who died at the age of 29 in 1963. But before he went he got some excrement - his own - and put it in a tin can. 'Excellent!' he said, in Italian, 'I think I'll call it Merda d'artista!'

Manzoni's canned shit is well known now, or the idea of it is. It's an idea as powerful in the popular imagination as the idea of blank canvases. In fact the actual cans are not all that well known. There are many of them. Each one contains an amount of the artist's own shit. On the label it says 30 grams but of course no one can really tell. The labels are quite detailed and well designed, with the name of the work in three languages, plus the date, the artist's signature and the name of the collector who owns the individual can - all this is part of the look. PIERO MANZONI is printed on the label in light grey letters on a grey ground, with the name repeating so it makes a mantra of the artist's name, as well as a grey and yellow pattern.

When they were first sold they cost their weight in gold. Now they're worth much more. If one came on the market today it would cost about 30,000 pounds. So while a pile of them was shown in a vitrine in London's Serpentine Gallery recently, it was a pile of shit but it was nearly a million pound's worth. . .

Money, shit, art: the holy trinity. Manzoni took jokes to a higher plane than Duchamp, in that he elevated them to the spiritual plane which was somewhere Duchamp never really wanted to go. Manzoni transubstantiated the things of the earth into mystery things. His signature was his magic medium. With it he could turn balloons filled with his breath into saintly relics or make women into artworks. He signed them and issued them with a certificate so that they knew what class of living art work they were - temporary, permanent, intermittent and so on. Each state was symbolised by stamp of a different colour on the certificate - for example, a state of permanent art was symbolised by a red stamp. The women had no special duties as works of art but they did become prisoners of Manzoni, prisoners of his idea.

He wanted to make the world into a prisoner too, with a metal cube inscribed with the words 'Base of the world', which he exhibited upside down on the floor, making the earth into a sculpture, one that floated in infinite space."

http://voltaires-monkey.b...s-you.html

I love art. LOVE IT. giggle
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Reply #1 posted 05/01/08 8:25pm

ZombieKitten

I bet they are a bit lighter now than when originally canned.
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Reply #2 posted 05/01/08 8:25pm

evenstar3

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ZombieKitten said:

I bet they are a bit lighter now than when originally canned.


but it was preserved! nod
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Reply #3 posted 05/01/08 8:28pm

ZombieKitten

evenstar3 said:

ZombieKitten said:

I bet they are a bit lighter now than when originally canned.


but it was preserved! nod


nobody will ever open one to find out will they, it would devalue it totally!
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Reply #4 posted 05/01/08 8:29pm

evenstar3

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ZombieKitten said:

evenstar3 said:



but it was preserved! nod


nobody will ever open one to find out will they, it would devalue it totally!


exactly! i suppose you could x-ray one or something, but that kinda defeats the point.
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Reply #5 posted 05/01/08 8:29pm

Brownsugar

I wonder if Ritz crackers come with that hmmm
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Reply #6 posted 05/01/08 8:30pm

Brownsugar

although a pickle would be nice too hmmm
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Reply #7 posted 05/01/08 8:30pm

ZombieKitten

Brownsugar said:

I wonder if Ritz crackers come with that hmmm


ill

or pumpernickel! idea
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Reply #8 posted 05/01/08 8:31pm

ArielB

Do they come with an expiration date?
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Reply #9 posted 05/01/08 8:32pm

ZombieKitten

ArielB said:

Do they come with an expiration date?

yeah, when are they best before! hammer
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Reply #10 posted 05/01/08 9:36pm

sammij

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man, whats with the thread jackers tonight? disbelief


anywho,

silly artists ohgoon
...the little artist that could...
[...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...]
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Reply #11 posted 05/01/08 10:25pm

Ocean

What next.....torture and kill animals ...and then shit in a can rolleyes
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Reply #12 posted 05/01/08 10:39pm

evenstar3

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Ocean said:

What next.....torture and kill animals ...and then shit in a can rolleyes


it's art though, that's the beauty of it. biggrin
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Reply #13 posted 05/01/08 10:42pm

Ocean

evenstar3 said:

Ocean said:

What next.....torture and kill animals ...and then shit in a can rolleyes


it's art though, that's the beauty of it. biggrin

Shit in a can they can call what ever they like...but the torture of animals being called art .....if thats the case fu*k art!
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Reply #14 posted 05/01/08 10:50pm

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Ocean said:

evenstar3 said:



it's art though, that's the beauty of it. biggrin

Shit in a can they can call what ever they like...but the torture of animals being called art .....if thats the case fu*k art!


that's a whole different thread. lol
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Reply #15 posted 05/01/08 11:09pm

Ocean

evenstar3 said:

Ocean said:


Shit in a can they can call what ever they like...but the torture of animals being called art .....if thats the case fu*k art!


that's a whole different thread. lol

I know sad ...sorry
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Reply #16 posted 05/01/08 11:13pm

purplesweat

ill

The 2 girls 1 cup girls will probably be inspired by this rolleyes
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Reply #17 posted 05/01/08 11:15pm

evenstar3

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Ocean said:

evenstar3 said:



that's a whole different thread. lol

I know sad ...sorry


no! hug i started this one because of people talking about 'shit on canvases not being art' in the other thread lol
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Reply #18 posted 05/01/08 11:19pm

ZombieKitten

Ocean said:

What next.....torture and kill animals ...and then shit in a can rolleyes


THIS is art! you just reminded me

http://www.youtube.com/wa...TbX1aMajow
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Reply #19 posted 05/01/08 11:20pm

ZombieKitten

evenstar3 said:

Ocean said:


I know sad ...sorry


no! hug i started this one because of people talking about 'shit on canvases not being art' in the other thread lol


Laurel!!!! you have to find out the guy's name for me, the one that uses paint enemas to "shit" onto a canvas (a kind of splattery effect lol )
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Reply #20 posted 05/01/08 11:21pm

Ocean

ZombieKitten said:

Ocean said:

What next.....torture and kill animals ...and then shit in a can rolleyes


THIS is art! you just reminded me

http://www.youtube.com/wa...TbX1aMajow
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Reply #21 posted 05/01/08 11:21pm

Ocean

evenstar3 said:

Ocean said:


I know sad ...sorry


no! hug i started this one because of people talking about 'shit on canvases not being art' in the other thread lol

oh opps hug
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Reply #22 posted 05/01/08 11:23pm

ZombieKitten

Ocean said:

ZombieKitten said:



THIS is art! you just reminded me

http://www.youtube.com/wa...TbX1aMajow
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the narrator sounds like sean micallef!
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Reply #23 posted 05/02/08 4:57am

WillyWonka

People go koo-koo for caca stuff!
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Reply #24 posted 05/02/08 5:06am

One4All4Ever

you can buy mine from e-bay, it comes with a free roll of mentos.
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