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Graycap23

NBA: The A.I. Effect.......

Nuggets' Karl promises to be tougher on players next season
Associated Press

Updated: May 1, 2008, 2:04 PM ET
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DENVER -- Another first-round flameout by the talented but disjointed Denver Nuggets has convinced coach George Karl he has to be tougher on his players next season.

"I think the players have kind of done it their way more often than doing it my way," Karl said of the past two seasons. "As an organization, as a coaching staff, as a team, we're going to have to address that next year."

The Nuggets, who lacked defensive discipline and often were reluctant to share the basketball, were swept by the Los Angeles Lakers in the first round of the playoffs, becoming the first 50-win team in NBA history to get whitewashed in the postseason.

Still, the team's brass has said Karl's job is safe, and Karl confirmed his intention to return next season. He has two years and $6 million left on his contract.

"Yeah," he said. "The players, they drive me crazy, but they are also loved by me. For three or four years, we haven't figured out that journey we want, and that's winning in the playoffs. It's very frustrating. But if you look at the ledger of good and bad, the [good] side's going to be three times as long.

"It's going to be drifting more toward my way," Karl insisted. "But I'm not going to say it's going to be demanding and dictatorial.

"Most of the stuff we're talking about is little things of professionalism. Being on time more often, being more committed to practice, more committed to each other, more committed to the team, more committed to the organization, more committed to doing public service. Everything."

The Nuggets expect Allen Iverson back next season unless he opts out of his contract. He has said he wants to return to the Nuggets and loves playing in Denver.

Karl said he'll begin meeting with the team's management next week to discuss the roster. The Nuggets have the 20th pick in the draft next month, and some changes are expected in the team's $80 million-plus payroll.

"Any time you're in the Western Conference and you lose in the first round, you probably anticipate some changes," he said. "And I think players anticipate some changes."
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Reply #1 posted 05/01/08 1:51pm

RodeoSchro

I think AI is an absolute warrior, but he's the epitome of the great player that does NOT raise the level of his teammate's play.
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Reply #2 posted 05/01/08 1:52pm

Graycap23

RodeoSchro said:

I think AI is an absolute warrior, but he's the epitome of the great player that does NOT raise the level of his teammate's play.

The type of warrior that will get u KILLED.
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Reply #3 posted 05/01/08 2:11pm

Sowhat

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I see this blowing up in Coach Karls face.
"Always blessings, never losses......"

Ya te dije....no manches guey!!!!!

mad I'm a guy!!!!

"....i can open my-eyes "underwater"..there4 i will NOT drown...." - mzkqueen03 eek lol
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Reply #4 posted 05/01/08 2:13pm

Graycap23

Sowhat said:

I see this blowing up in Coach Karls face.

He won't last past next season.
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Reply #5 posted 05/01/08 2:18pm

uPtoWnNY

A.I. led a Sixers team(that didn't have a lot of talent) to the Finals in 2001. And weren't they the only team to beat Shaq's Lakers in the playoffs? They were a tough, gritty, blue-collar team who's coach(Brown) emphasized defense.

Denver needs and influx of defense, and an attitude adjustment. And Karl has to tell his guys, if you don't make the committment to 'D', you sit.
[Edited 5/1/08 14:19pm]
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Reply #6 posted 05/01/08 2:31pm

Graycap23

uPtoWnNY said:

A.I. led a Sixers team(that didn't have a lot of talent) to the Finals in 2001. And weren't they the only team to beat Shaq's Lakers in the playoffs? They were a tough, gritty, blue-collar team who's coach(Brown) emphasized defense.

Denver needs and influx of defense, and an attitude adjustment. And Karl has to tell his guys, if you don't make the committment to 'D', you sit.
[Edited 5/1/08 14:19pm]

Hummmmm.....have u looked at the TALENT on that team? No reason 4 that team 2 go out in the 1st round. NONE.
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Reply #7 posted 05/01/08 2:44pm

Flowerz

Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

A.I. led a Sixers team(that didn't have a lot of talent) to the Finals in 2001. And weren't they the only team to beat Shaq's Lakers in the playoffs? They were a tough, gritty, blue-collar team who's coach(Brown) emphasized defense.

Denver needs and influx of defense, and an attitude adjustment. And Karl has to tell his guys, if you don't make the committment to 'D', you sit.
[Edited 5/1/08 14:19pm]

Hummmmm.....have u looked at the TALENT on that team? No reason 4 that team 2 go out in the 1st round. NONE.



that's right.. there was no reason for it, i had high hopes hrmph
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Reply #8 posted 05/01/08 2:46pm

Graycap23

Flowerz said:

Graycap23 said:


Hummmmm.....have u looked at the TALENT on that team? No reason 4 that team 2 go out in the 1st round. NONE.



that's right.. there was no reason for it, i had high hopes hrmph

I said this 12/13 years ago and it still applies. Any team with A.I. on it will NEVER win a title or a championship of ANY kind.
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Reply #9 posted 05/01/08 2:57pm

Flowerz

Graycap23 said:

Flowerz said:




that's right.. there was no reason for it, i had high hopes hrmph

I said this 12/13 years ago and it still applies. Any team with A.I. on it will NEVER win a title or a championship of ANY kind.


i get your title now.. what is it about him though? why do you think he wont get a future ring?
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Reply #10 posted 05/01/08 3:03pm

Graycap23

Flowerz said:

Graycap23 said:


I said this 12/13 years ago and it still applies. Any team with A.I. on it will NEVER win a title or a championship of ANY kind.


i get your title now.. what is it about him though? why do you think he wont get a future ring?

He never plays TEAM ball.
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Reply #11 posted 05/01/08 3:05pm

uPtoWnNY

Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

A.I. led a Sixers team(that didn't have a lot of talent) to the Finals in 2001. And weren't they the only team to beat Shaq's Lakers in the playoffs? They were a tough, gritty, blue-collar team who's coach(Brown) emphasized defense.

Denver needs and influx of defense, and an attitude adjustment. And Karl has to tell his guys, if you don't make the committment to 'D', you sit.
[Edited 5/1/08 14:19pm]

Hummmmm.....have u looked at the TALENT on that team? No reason 4 that team 2 go out in the 1st round. NONE.



Yes there is. What gets you far in the playoffs? Defense & rebounding. That Sixer team did both, plus their coach demanded it. The Nuggets have more offensive talent, no doubt, but where's the committment to 'D'? Where's the toughness?
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Reply #12 posted 05/02/08 6:06am

Graycap23

uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:


Hummmmm.....have u looked at the TALENT on that team? No reason 4 that team 2 go out in the 1st round. NONE.



Yes there is. What gets you far in the playoffs? Defense & rebounding. That Sixer team did both, plus their coach demanded it. The Nuggets have more offensive talent, no doubt, but where's the committment to 'D'? Where's the toughness?

Like I said.....the A.I. effect. razz
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Reply #13 posted 05/02/08 7:06am

littlemissG

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Go Pistons!

That's all I wanted to say, thanks.
No More Haters on the Internet.
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