a lot of ppl in my country knock the government for "sucking up" to America (when there are so many other things to pick on our government for)..but i know if Australia was ever threatened, these ppl would be the first to jump up and scream "please America..come and save our asses"
i have no issue with ppl discussing issues such as American foreign policy..but i do think that there's an "America sucks" bandwagon that a lot of ppl seem to be jumping on..
do i think Iraq should be dealt with through the United Nations?..yes..do i think the sun shines out of America's butt and everything they do is right?..certainly not..but i'm appreciative of the fact that if we were in the shit..America would help us out..call me naive..but i really believe that..
and let's not forget what the ppl of America went through with sept 11..
AND.. Saddam scares me..he's shown before he's a crazy fucker..
I'm sure there are holes in America's foreign policy..but i'd rather be hangin' with them than some of those other oppressive luni's..
it's so easy to point out what ppl are doing wrong..how about some positive solutions.."George Bush is this or that"..ok..what do u think he SHOULD do?
anyway..America..i'm bloody glad you're there

ps.i realise that the "racists against America" thread was a joke



[This message was edited Thu Oct 31 19:27:09 PST 2002 by MrBliss]

How original, intellectually stimulating and timely!

NegaTIVity said:

if that doesnt smack of aaron...i dont know what does... :LOL:

SkletonKee said:

I'll gladly smack Aaron...apparently he has the patent on negativity...

MrBliss said:

GOOD GAWD! Y CAN'T EYE STAY AWAY FROM POLITICS... EYE GET SO HEATED IT AIN'T EVEN FUNNY...
HERE EYE GO... first of all...


A.- WE AMERICANS r the most oppressive country in the WORLD HOW??

WE r the ones that consume EVERY possible "goods" created on earth... There is 2pds of food 4 EVERY LIVING PERSON ON EARTH but of course through world trade we r the ones that dominate foreign lands 4 our "wants" instead of those countries using those lands for their "needs" Example: All the land that is used in Columbia, Dominican Republic, etc etc that is used to make Coffee, Bananas, Sugar etc etc 2 bring to the USA should be used 4 the poor people in those counties. Foreign countries could use the land to make FOOD like RICE, Potatoes, Vegies etc etc 2 feed themselves not us ... BUT NOOO that land is used 2 grow Coffee for Americans! Let's see... what is more important... Americans being able to drink as much coffee as we want or poor people in other countries eating properly... what is more important???

B.- Everyone always says "when there is a tragedy in another country Americans r always there helping supplying endless food, medicine's etc etc... what a load of crap... Of course Americans have to help in emergencies we have all their resources! LoL maybe if we did't abuse of our power they could have the resources 4 themselves and we Americans wouldn't have to come to the rescue! lol... BUT no, we look good when we go there to "help" it's good press... "look at us, we r so honest and good" Why don't we Amerians stop taking all their resources so they can fend 4 themselves instead? does't it make sense? We pat ourselves on the back 4 giving them back their own property or what GOD has created 4 every man, but we humans have claimed as OUR property to take away or give to the highest bidder! lol

Y??? because We r a shallow, self centered, self absorbed, greedy, manipulative GOVERNMENT who is the richest country in the world but we still have homeless people in our streets...

U that r reading this, if you have a place to sleep, water, and food you are a SOCIALITE compared to 75% of the world! As a matter a fact even our bums that live on our streets r socialites compared 2 the rest of the world... Our bums don't have to travel 10 miles a day for water like African Women have to do... Our bums beg 4 money on the street and if they get 2 dollars a DAY they will still have more money than an African who works all day every day for a week!

and there r so many other statistics comparing the USA 2 other countries that if eye find them again be assured eye will POST THEM ASAP and all of ur mouths would drop 2 the floor in disgust (if you are a decent human) ...

RaneStarr said:

Please do

RaneStarr said:

OOOH Rane YOU GO!!!

RaneStarr said:

First of all, hey dude... its good that we have made peace! So lets have fun flaming each other in a brotherly manner now, okay?
Here we go:

MrBliss said:

God Bless WHICH America?

North...Central...South?

Or is it just God Bless North America?

And what makes you think God is listening to you?

Does God say..."Yeah, I'll Bless you...and you only"?

Does God Bless (North) America then exclude God blessing other countries or rather Nations?

What about other planets?

Galaxies?

I say God Bless The Milky Way.

God Bless Jupiter.

God Bless The Animal Kingdom.

FlyingCloudPassenger said:[quote]God Bless WHICH America?

North...Central...South?

Or is it just God Bless North America?

And what makes you think God is listening to you?

Does God say..."Yeah, I'll Bless you...and you only"?

Does God Bless (North) America then exclude God blessing other countries or rather Nations?

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thank you!!! eye don't know what part of America Bush is talking about cuz where eye'm from it's America 2 and my ppl r dying, starving and geting on rafts trying 2 get 2 the USA cuz the damn country is so f&%$ing poor...

4LOVE said:

this is from http://www.foodfirst.org



Myth 1

Not Enough Food to Go Around Reality:

Abundance, not scarcity, best describes the world's food supply. Enough wheat, rice and other grains are produced to provide every human being with 3,500 calories a day. That doesn't even count many other commonly eaten foods-vegetables, beans, nuts, root crops, fruits, grass-fed meats, and fish . Enough food is available to provide at least 4.3 pounds of food per person a day worldwide: two and half pounds of grain, beans and nuts, about a pound of fruits and vegetables, and nearly another pound of meat, milk and eggs-enough to make most people fat! The problem is that many people are too poor to buy readily available food. Even most "hungry countries" have enough food for all their people right now. Many are net exporters of food and other agricultural products.



Myth 10

More U.S. Aid Will Help the Hungry Reality:

Most U.S. aid works directly against the hungry. Foreign aid can only reinforce, not change, the status quo. Where governments answer only to elites, our aid not only fails to reach hungry people, it shores up the very forces working against them. Our aid is used to impose free trade and free market policies, to promote exports at the expense of food production, and to provide the armaments that repressive governments use to stay in power. Even emergency, or humanitarian aid, which makes up only five percent of the total, often ends up enriching American grain companieswhile failing to reach the hungry, and it can dangerously undercut local food production in the recipient country. It would be better to use our foreign aid budget for unconditional debt relief, as it is the foreign debt burden that forces most Third World countries to cut back on basic health, education and anti-poverty programs.

Rane Starr, you are my new hero

soulpower said:

u ain't so bad urself sweetie... u got a tom cruise thang goin' on??

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

Lovely idea! God Bless the Earth (and anyone else out there!)

RaneStarr said:

Tom Cruise? Usually people say I look like Enrique Iglesias... too bad I dont have my knit hat on in my profile pic...

soulpower said:

I will get back to you questions later today, bro..

still waiting

MrBliss said:

ooops, totally forgot over the org-timeout. Tomorrow still okay? I am ready to go to sleep

soulpower said:

cool

soulpower said:

Okay bro, I'm gonna make it short. First you ask me what if I am wrong about Saddam. Well, we both have it clear that he is a dictator and his people are far from being free. But there are indeed worse dictatorships (North Korea i.e., many in Africa), and dictatorships are always a problem of inner politics as long as nobody from the outside is harmed.
Saddam hasnt harmed anbody from the outside. Exception: Kuweit, 1990. Kuweit has always been part of Iraq, until the British brought a new political order into the area. In 1990 Saddam only longed for what he thought was part of his country, and he did that for one single reason: to secure the oil resources. Thats not nice to say it with a naive undertone, but its a common practice and the US has perferctionized this habit.
Saddam is not a nuthead willing to destroy the world. Iraq has frequent and very positive trading agreements with many european countries. He is against Israel, okay... but so are all Arab countries. In 1990, wehn firing missiles against Tel Aviv, he didnt equip them with bio heads, because he knew that Israels revenge would have been devestating. So actually he kept a pretty clear head. Fact is also that none of his neighbouring countries do not feel threatened by him, and he by far can not be compared to Hitler. Btw, he is not even part of the "Islamic world conspiracy", as W says... his regime is not even islamic, so in his ideology he is closer to Turkey than Iran or Jemen.

About what W should do: Move his troops out of Saudi Arabia. The US occupation of this country serves only financial interests (the control over the saudi arabian oil price) and it is the main cause for Bin Laden to form his group. The occupation of saudi arabia is against the will of its population because they feel that their religious belief is being disrespected.
Organizations such as Al Quaida wouldnt exist if the US didnt make it part of their plan to create a new political order in the middle east - to their full advantage.
Or do you honestly believe the crap that the islamic nations want to conquer the world and make all our women wear Burkas? So far in world history the arabi countries always had to defend themselves against christian invasions. they have never started shit by themselves.
I hope that explained you a little more about how I see this.