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Reply #30 posted 04/29/08 8:27pm

superkiss

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

superkiss said:



my comments werent directed at u personally. biggrin

i was saying 'u' in a general way.. like 'we'.

but to address ur question..

people who demean me and test me are telling me they dont think too highly of themselves.

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hug Gotcha... still good to answer frankly. whofarted As to my question, does your IP register a second more known screename? Huh, friend?


unless i've got a twin out there i dont know about.. no.
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Reply #31 posted 04/29/08 8:28pm

Mach

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

Imago said:




Atlanta is going to PWN. I hope I make it.


Its really quaint having a clickish sort of invasion thrown in my thread.


lol

eek wait hmm



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Reply #32 posted 04/29/08 8:37pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

Mach said:

Muse2NOPharaoh said:



Its really quaint having a clickish sort of invasion thrown in my thread.


lol

eek wait hmm



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Reply #33 posted 04/29/08 8:54pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

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I'm not 100% sure why, but I suspect you could probably pull out a couple of the 7 deadly sins and build a thesis around that .

There's nothing I hate more than someone who criticizes me but doesn't have the nerve to be direct about it--sort of like a back handed compliment's twin sister ,so to speak.

Sometimes they get what they want--a rise out of me, for I'm only human--I DO feel pangs of negative emotions if the stimulus hits in the right place, at the right time, and unfortunately I act out in anger and all the other pointless expressions that don't help the situation.

But there's a famous buddhist quote that I always wish I could live by (I don't lol, but still want to): Do not judge. Go and help.





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Truth and lol
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Reply #34 posted 04/30/08 5:14am

Mach

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

Mach said:



lol

eek wait hmm



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lol wink


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Reply #35 posted 04/30/08 5:34am

shanti0608

Imago said:

I'm not 100% sure why, but I suspect you could probably pull out a couple of the 7 deadly sins and build a thesis around that .

There's nothing I hate more than someone who criticizes me but doesn't have the nerve to be direct about it--sort of like a back handed compliment's twin sister ,so to speak.

Sometimes they get what they want--a rise out of me, for I'm only human--I DO feel pangs of negative emotions if the stimulus hits in the right place, at the right time, and unfortunately I act out in anger and all the other pointless expressions that don't help the situation.

But there's a famous buddhist quote that I always wish I could live by (I don't lol, but still want to): Do not judge. Go and help.





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You made a good point Dan... you are only human.

I think the problem comes when ppl think that they are better than other humans..shall we say perfect. They therefore think that they can put other humans down because they are some how better or higher up shall we say.

I find that ppl that think they "know everything" about other humans and everything in life for that matter tend to look down upon the rest of us.

I was raised by my great grand mother to treat others as I wish to be treated myself.
Though I find that other ppl rarely happen to think or act this way in real life or here sometimes for that matter, it should not keep me from trying to live by those standards.

Yes I do slip up some times, just like Dan, I am only human.
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Reply #36 posted 04/30/08 6:21am

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I correct Dan's spelling all the time beacause frankly, it's atrocious.
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Reply #37 posted 04/30/08 6:26am

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In all seriousness, it's the last refuge in an argument or debate. They can't (or won't) intelligently and compassionately state theire own beliefs or defend their position so they go on the attack of the "little" things about the other person.
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Reply #38 posted 04/30/08 6:44am

Imago

CarrieMpls said:

In all seriousness, it's the last refuge in an argument or debate. They can't (or won't) intelligently and compassionately state theire own beliefs or defend their position so they go on the attack of the "little" things about the other person.



This is true, but I think Karen's talking about someone who resorts to this behavior as normal business. Like just in passing, etc. etc.--THAT's rather toxic actually.

I've known folks like that--folks in marriages, with children actually. I always wonder how the hell they can live their daily lives being so toxic lol in family settings.
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Reply #39 posted 04/30/08 6:47am

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CarrieMpls said:

I correct Dan's spelling all the time beacause frankly, it's atrocious.


I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the dirt.
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Reply #40 posted 04/30/08 6:48am

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Imago said:

CarrieMpls said:

In all seriousness, it's the last refuge in an argument or debate. They can't (or won't) intelligently and compassionately state theire own beliefs or defend their position so they go on the attack of the "little" things about the other person.



This is true, but I think Karen's talking about someone who resorts to this behavior as normal business. Like just in passing, etc. etc.--THAT's rather toxic actually.

I've known folks like that--folks in marriages, with children actually. I always wonder how the hell they can live their daily lives being so toxic lol in family settings.


ahhh... I see.

Then yes, it's just like anyone who is constantly putting down others. They want to make themselves feel better.
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Reply #41 posted 04/30/08 7:29am

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Muse2NOPharaoh said:

Why is it ( I've seen this a lot on here) that many feel the need to exert power through correction of others short comings? This is not to say share a solicited opinion but assert one where it was never asked for?

Is it that one supposes the subject doesn't know their own short comings?

Is it some form of expectations one holds themselves to and thus measures all others by? If so, is it not more-so about you and flagging your strenghs in the first place?

I find condescension one of the lowest forms of human communication.

Do you yourself feel that you learned or improved by a demeaning remark sent your way? If not, why perpetrate it against others?

If a believer, do you feel that God has ever dealt with you that way and hence you benefited from it? Then why pray tell do you believe another would?

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Reply #42 posted 04/30/08 1:13pm

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sigh I had cause to ask myself this question the other day... I think it's because people are either jealous or insecure. People suck.
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Reply #43 posted 04/30/08 1:15pm

shanti0608

Sweeny79 said:

sigh I had cause to ask myself this question the other day... I think it's because people are either jealous or insecure. People suck.


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Reply #44 posted 04/30/08 1:18pm

mdiver

Well it is just that you are ALWAYS wrong neutral




























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Reply #45 posted 04/30/08 1:32pm

applekisses

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

Why is it ( I've seen this a lot on here) that many feel the need to exert power through correction of others short comings? This is not to say share a solicited opinion but assert one where it was never asked for?

Is it that one supposes the subject doesn't know their own short comings?

Is it some form of expectations one holds themselves to and thus measures all others by? If so, is it not more-so about you and flagging your strenghs in the first place?

I find condescension one of the lowest forms of human communication.

Do you yourself feel that you learned or improved by a demeaning remark sent your way? If not, why perpetrate it against others?

If a believer, do you feel that God has ever dealt with you that way and hence you benefited from it? Then why pray tell do you believe another would?


I've seen it most often used as a weapon. Some like to seek out what they see as a weakness and attack that part of a person - even if it has nothing to do with the original subject.
Personally, I see it as the lowest form of debate and it's simply an attack. I can say for myself that in the past I have resorted to this method a few times when I've felt cornered or severely bullied. Those who use it more often or even regularly - well...I think it's a little violent.
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Reply #46 posted 04/30/08 3:13pm

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Many people excuse their own faults but judge other persons harshly.

We should reverse this attitude by excusing others' shortcomings and by harshly examining our own.
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Reply #47 posted 05/01/08 5:25am

Mach

sag10 said:

Many people excuse their own faults but judge other persons harshly.

We should reverse this attitude by excusing others' shortcomings and by harshly examining our own.


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Reply #48 posted 05/01/08 6:29am

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i think people who do this are 1) their own worst enemy, neglecting their own personal development in favor of trying to block someone else's; and 2) utilizing the cheapest of cheap ways to make themselves feel a little taller - by cutting the legs out from under someone else.
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Reply #49 posted 05/01/08 6:38am

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It could also be cultural. I have met many people in Australia from Europe (mostly aquaintances of my parents), who find themselves with few friends, because their way of being "helpful" (as they like to think of it) in a rather blunt manner, comes across as judgemental or critical. They never meant any malice.

If faced by someone's "correction", I will always take it. It goes against my first reaction perhaps, but nearly always produces the least worst outcome.
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Reply #50 posted 05/01/08 9:08am

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ZombieKitten said:

It could also be cultural. I have met many people in Australia from Europe (mostly aquaintances of my parents), who find themselves with few friends, because their way of being "helpful" (as they like to think of it) in a rather blunt manner, comes across as judgemental or critical. They never meant any malice.

If faced by someone's "correction", I will always take it. It goes against my first reaction perhaps, but nearly always produces the least worst outcome.


I think you're onto something there.

I also think it's difficult, in this kind of setting, to divine peoples' true meaning. If a person says what they think in a forthright way or without using "post lube" - lol biggrin wink etc. - they can be labeled as rude or condescending...when that really isn't the spirit in which their remarks were conceived.

I think people need to cut each other some slack in both directions. shrug
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Reply #51 posted 05/01/08 10:00pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

Genesia said:

ZombieKitten said:

It could also be cultural. I have met many people in Australia from Europe (mostly aquaintances of my parents), who find themselves with few friends, because their way of being "helpful" (as they like to think of it) in a rather blunt manner, comes across as judgemental or critical. They never meant any malice.

If faced by someone's "correction", I will always take it. It goes against my first reaction perhaps, but nearly always produces the least worst outcome.


I think you're onto something there.

I also think it's difficult, in this kind of setting, to divine peoples' true meaning. If a person says what they think in a forthright way or without using "post lube" - lol biggrin wink etc. - they can be labeled as rude or condescending...when that really isn't the spirit in which their remarks were conceived.

I think people need to cut each other some slack in both directions. shrug

It would be ill received if spoken outside of relationship.... Meaning to say, if you haven't an established connection based in best interest of the individual likely you will be rebuked.

However, I wasnt speaking to this form of communication myself.
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Reply #52 posted 05/01/08 10:02pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

XxAxX said:

i think people who do this are 1) their own worst enemy, neglecting their own personal development in favor of trying to block someone else's; and 2) utilizing the cheapest of cheap ways to make themselves feel a little taller - by cutting the legs out from under someone else.

wink Ok?
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Reply #53 posted 05/01/08 10:04pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

sag10 said:

Many people excuse their own faults but judge other persons harshly.

We should reverse this attitude by excusing others' shortcomings and by harshly examining our own.

That can go far to far as I honestly know too...
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Reply #54 posted 05/01/08 11:26pm

ZombieKitten

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

Genesia said:



I think you're onto something there.

I also think it's difficult, in this kind of setting, to divine peoples' true meaning. If a person says what they think in a forthright way or without using "post lube" - lol biggrin wink etc. - they can be labeled as rude or condescending...when that really isn't the spirit in which their remarks were conceived.

I think people need to cut each other some slack in both directions. shrug

It would be ill received if spoken outside of relationship.... Meaning to say, if you haven't an established connection based in best interest of the individual likely you will be rebuked.

However, I wasnt speaking to this form of communication myself.


you mean strangers being nitpicky? confuse
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Reply #55 posted 05/02/08 2:48pm

jonylawson

zombie!!

muse!!

apples!!

dang! i feel like dancing

im at a wedding-pin striped suit n pink shirt wink

oh sorry-yeah muse anybodys mean to you ill track em down mad
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Reply #56 posted 05/02/08 9:36pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

jonylawson said:

zombie!!

muse!!

apples!!

dang! i feel like dancing

im at a wedding-pin striped suit n pink shirt wink

oh sorry-yeah muse anybodys mean to you ill track em down mad

Pictures!
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Reply #57 posted 05/02/08 9:40pm

applekisses

ZombieKitten said:

It could also be cultural. I have met many people in Australia from Europe (mostly aquaintances of my parents), who find themselves with few friends, because their way of being "helpful" (as they like to think of it) in a rather blunt manner, comes across as judgemental or critical. They never meant any malice.

If faced by someone's "correction", I will always take it. It goes against my first reaction perhaps, but nearly always produces the least worst outcome.


I see what you're saying. I see it in my Eastern European friends and family. Criticism can be seen as something healthy and helpful - and I think it's all in the delivery. The "advice" (even if it's unwelcome lol ) given by those who care about us I think might be a little different. I don't think those folks use what they say for any sort of self-satisfaction or for trying to one-up another. I think they're just nosey and blunt smile
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Reply #58 posted 05/02/08 9:42pm

applekisses

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

jonylawson said:

zombie!!

muse!!

apples!!

dang! i feel like dancing

im at a wedding-pin striped suit n pink shirt wink

oh sorry-yeah muse anybodys mean to you ill track em down mad

Pictures!



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Reply #59 posted 05/02/08 9:46pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

applekisses said:

Muse2NOPharaoh said:


Pictures!




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