JustErin said:

I guess I should've been clearer. I was talking about if she becomes a famous model.

Ace said:

A famous model can still attend school after the fact.

JustErin said:

I'm talking about the fact that you can never shake fame.

Ace said:

Oh. OK, maybe...but I don't believe it totally burdens your life forever that you can't actually go on to do other things.

But, hey...I'm not famous, so what do I know?

Ace said:

oh, i'm sorry i forgot about the "...and free blow at the clubs!" part.

JustErin said:

There is no upside to fame. If you maintain a successful career, you will always be under scrutiny and won't be able to go anywhere without people wanting some of your time. If you don't, you'll still have the scrutiny, but with the added bonus of ridicule.

The smart folk make their scratch under the radar.

Ace said:

it doesn't always HAVE to be that way.

Anxiety said:

Do tell...

Ace said:

i think if you set manageable goals and define your success with boundaries that are different than the media-prescribed "dream life", you can be a model or a performer and have a completely ENJOYABLE and lucrative career.

it's when they start dangling the poison carrots that things go to shit, and dealing with that is largely a matter of having some sense and discipline.

Anxiety said:

Who are you thinking of?

Ace said:

people i've followed throughout my life, as well as a few people i know personally.

Anxiety said:

I couldn't bear people staring at me and/or stopping me when I'm out in public.

Ace said:

well, the people i "know personally" live in new york. i think being recognized there is a bit different than in other places. walking around in NYC, you get some "oh hi"s and a person or two who wants to try to talk shop. mainly though, people either are too busy and don't notice famous people or else they just whisper in their friends' ears "don't look but so-and-so is over there" and pretend to ignore them.

Anxiety said:

I've seen the stare and/or stop in L.A. and New York. Hell, there's a whole site devoted to the former in the latter (you know...that one where people "gawk"?).

And let's not forget TMZ. Now people can invade your privacy with video!

Ace said:

the kind of people i know didn't end up on gawker or any of the gossip sites. paper magazine's party pics page? maybe. "5 minutes with..." in time out NY? sure. but that's what i mean. they're not trying to court britney/brangelica/madonna fame, and they exist in an environment where they don't suffer that kind of scrutiny.

Anxiety said:

I've seen these kind of folk get the staring thing, fer sure. If you don't mind people watching your every move like you're a sideshow act and blabbing about it on message boards, then I guess it's for you.

Ace said:

oh, they totally get stares. well, one of them does anyway. the other, i think she's such a drag queen on stage that nobody recognizes her when she's just scrubbin' out on a regular day.

Anxiety said:

Ace said:

Anxiety said:

! ! ! ! !



dayum money for these dayum picturs!! ! ! !.....

KidaSaurusRx said:

Your daughter is very beautiful

I was a child model from the age of 6 - 16 and was always allowed to make the choice to continue each yr by my parents. I was never pushed. It was a fun and rewarding experience with travel and meeting of people from all over the world.
I quit at 16 ( even though the $ was very nice ) because I grew to dislike the cattyness of the girls/women and the sexual undertones from the guys.

That was my experience


I wish your daughter well if it is what she chooses to do for herself

KidaSaurusRx said:

1. What city are you located in?

2. How tall is she?

Mach said:

Do you have any pics left over from when you were little??? I love, love, LOVE working with kids (in fashion) and have done so for about 15(?) years. First and foremost because they're brutally honest, work from the id, and as a result unlike adults aren't greasing your palms the whole time they're interacting with you. Kids just ARE. As long as they're not hungry or sleepy they dole out entertainment for days on film,just by being themselves. It's so cool to hear your parent's approach to guiding you through that whole world: from my experience, being the person working on the crew side, for art direction, styling, and production, oftentimes being responsible for booking decisions, I was always troubled how some PARENTS were often the ones who wanted it more than the kids. It was as if they were living through them vicariously, it was horrible. It was a lways a breath of fresh air to just meet a family that was CHILL, with funny, chilled-out kids, that didn't push their wee ones like slave drivers with a Shirley Temple-Judy Garland complex ....and as quiet as it's kept... in addition to the comp cards clients keep on kids, there's also a little post-it kept attached as to whether or not mom/dad is stage-parent-y and intrusive... and it makes a major difference when you come down to a decision to book one kid over another

Mach said:

well she needs to use it cause her attitude is somewhat UGLY at times...

for me!.....mom is hot...


honest is BEST! ! ! ...ty the app is in, we'll see....

KidaSaurusRx said:

An application? I'm curious, what agency requested an application? Did she see a booker from the new faces divion of the agency first?

Ottensen said:

how are bookers contacted???