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Thread started 04/18/08 2:39pm

Graycap23

NBA: Isiah gone....

Isiah was FIRED.
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Reply #1 posted 04/18/08 2:42pm

SCNDLS

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Thank GOD! woot!



http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...cks_thomas

NEW YORK - Isiah Thomas was fired as coach of the New York Knicks on Friday after a season of listless and dreadful basketball, a tawdry lawsuit and unending chants from fans demanding Thomas' dismissal.

Thomas, the coach for two seasons, will remain with the organization reporting directly to new president Donnie Walsh, a rapid fall for Thomas who also was team president a little more than two weeks ago.

Walsh said he informed Thomas of the decision Friday.

"It's very difficult to be the coach and general manager," he said. "Maybe it was too much."

Walsh took over Thomas' role as team president April 2, and his first big decision was to change coaches as he begins the process of turning around a team that never won a playoff game in Thomas' tenure.

"I just believe a new voice, a new coach, is necessary to change the direction of the team," Walsh said. "This is a coveted job. People want to coach here.

The Knicks finished 23-59, matching the franchise record for losses, in their seventh straight losing season.

"I can't tell you really where we failed," Walsh said. "The bottom line is we haven't won, and the team didn't look like it was motivated to try to win."

Two of those 59-loss debacles came in the last three years, when the Knicks solidified themselves as the NBA's most dysfunctional franchise with poor play on the court and embarrassing behavior off it.

This season alone, Thomas was found to have sexually harassed a former team employee, feuded with point guard Stephon Marbury and benched center Eddy Curry — the players Thomas acquired in the two biggest of a number of moves that never panned out.

Walsh wants a new coach in place by the draft in June, when the Knicks will finally have their lottery pick again after handing over their last two to Chicago in the Curry trade.

Walsh said he hasn't talked to any candidates, but mentioned former Knick and current TV analyst Mark Jackson, and assistant coach Herb Williams as people who likely would be interviewed. He said he has no timetable to make his decision.

"Obviously, when you're losing, there has to be a culture change," he said. "There's no easy answer. ... We've got to work 24-7 to become competitive."

And Thomas will be a part of that.

His new role with the Knicks does not have a title. Without getting specific, Walsh said there were assignments he'd feel completely comfortable giving to Thomas.

"I feel like some of the bigger events that happened on the way with Isiah overshadowed some of the good things" that he accomplished, Walsh said.

"I will be in touch with Isiah a lot," he said.

Thomas is 187-223 as an NBA coach, leading the Indiana Pacers to the playoffs in three straight years from 2000-03. Larry Bird fired him after becoming team president, a move Walsh — who had hired Thomas as coach — was originally against but eventually went along with.

Thomas was hired as the Knicks' team president on Dec. 22, 2003, and he acquired Marbury from Phoenix weeks later. The Knicks made the playoffs that season, getting swept by New Jersey, but haven't gone back despite their annual spot atop the league's highest payroll list.

Though the salary cap was already out of whack by the time Thomas arrived, he didn't help matters with some questionable moves. He gave a $30 million contract in the summer of 2005 to center Jerome James, a career 4.3 points per game scorer who hasn't been healthy or productive, and seems bothered by neither. A year later, Thomas used his mid-level exception on Jared Jeffries, who has limited offensive skills.

Still, Madison Square Garden chairman James Dolan remained confident in Thomas, even making him coach in June 2006 after firing Larry Brown following one season. But that came with an ultimatum, as Dolan warned Thomas to show "evident progress" in one season or be fired from both positions.

The Knicks went 33-49 last season, but that was good enough for Dolan. He rewarded Thomas with a multiyear contract extension with more than a month left after New York moved into eighth place, but the Knicks collapsed under a series of injuries and missed the postseason.

Things went poorly this season from the time training camp opened.

The jury came back with its verdict that day, finding that Thomas and MSG sexually harassed former team executive Anucha Browne Sanders and ordering the company to pay $11.6 million in damages. Criticized by Al Sharpton and Rutgers women's coach C. Vivian Stringer for comments he made in his taped deposition, Thomas seemed downcast during most of training camp — and never had much reason for better spirits when the season began.

The Knicks started 2-1, then dropped eight in a row as the Thomas-Marbury feud sent the season spiraling out of control. Marbury responded to Thomas' plans to bench him by skipping a game in Phoenix, and the players reportedly voted to make Marbury sit out a game when he returned. Instead, Thomas played the point guard more than 33 minutes off the bench in a game in Los Angeles against the Clippers.

It soon became obvious that Thomas' draft night acquisition of Zach Randolph had set back Curry, who lost his confidence and later his starting job. Speculation was rampant by Thanksgiving that Thomas' job was in jeopardy, and it only heated up after the Knicks' nationally televised 104-59 loss at Boston on Nov. 29.

Chants of "Fire Isiah!" sometimes started minutes after home games, and even Dolan's strong relationship with Thomas couldn't convince people the coach would last.

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Reply #2 posted 04/18/08 2:44pm

Graycap23

Bet cash money the Knicks hire a coach before the Bulls do.....and he will be a better coach.
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Reply #3 posted 04/18/08 2:48pm

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Graycap23 said:

Bet cash money the Knicks hire a coach before the Bulls do.....and he will be a better coach.


I dunno shrug The fact that the Knicks are not completely disassociating themselves from Isiah and that they kept him so long doesn't speak well for their decision making prowess. confused
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Reply #4 posted 04/18/08 3:28pm

uPtoWnNY

SCNDLS said:

Graycap23 said:

Bet cash money the Knicks hire a coach before the Bulls do.....and he will be a better coach.


I dunno shrug The fact that the Knicks are not completely disassociating themselves from Isiah and that they kept him so long doesn't speak well for their decision making prowess. confused


That tells you how bad Jim Dolan is - the worst owner in professional sports.

Isiah should be stripped naked, and tarred & feathered in front of MSG for what he's done to my beloved Knicks. He filled this team with a bunch of bums - me-first players who have no knowledge of real basketball. They're going to suck for 3-4 years. Walsh can't even blow up the roster, because of the ridiculous contracts Isiah handed out.

I have the perfect role for Isiah..."Peanuts! Popcorn! Get your peanuts and popcorn right here!!!!"
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Reply #5 posted 04/18/08 3:30pm

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Graycap23 said:

Isiah was FIRED.


HE HAS ABOUT AS MUCH BUSINESS SAVVY AS THE ASSHOLE BABY I GAVE BIRTH TO THIS MORNING!!

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Reply #6 posted 04/18/08 3:42pm

RodeoSchro

Graycap23 said:

Isiah was FIRED.


Hard to believe he was ever hired. Dude bankrupted an entire league.
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Reply #7 posted 04/18/08 3:51pm

uPtoWnNY

RodeoSchro said:

Graycap23 said:

Isiah was FIRED.


Hard to believe he was ever hired. Dude bankrupted an entire league.


Two words - Jim Dolan.
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Reply #8 posted 04/19/08 3:32pm

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Isiah's statement

"Bitch, I don't give a fuck about employment!"
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #9 posted 04/19/08 10:10pm

heybaby

bboy87 said:

Isiah's statement

"Bitch, I don't give a fuck about employment!"

lol
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Reply #10 posted 04/20/08 9:00pm

uPtoWnNY

Place your votes here....

http://www.nydailynews.co..._dump.html
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Reply #11 posted 04/20/08 9:46pm

applekisses

WOAH!

Maybe he'll come back to Detroit hmmm
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Reply #12 posted 04/20/08 10:40pm

uPtoWnNY

applekisses said:

WOAH!

Maybe he'll come back to Detroit hmmm



Y'all can have that P.O.S. He can run your team into the ground like he did the Knicks. smile
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Reply #13 posted 04/20/08 11:00pm

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applekisses said:

WOAH!

Maybe he'll come back to Detroit hmmm


This is probably the most baffling post I've seen on the org in a loooong time. falloff

Why would you say something like that? lol
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Reply #14 posted 04/21/08 5:42am

heybaby

foxyflawedhands said:

applekisses said:

WOAH!

Maybe he'll come back to Detroit hmmm


This is probably the most baffling post I've seen on the org in a loooong time. falloff

Why would you say something like that? lol

lol
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Reply #15 posted 04/21/08 6:10am

DanceWme

woot!
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Reply #16 posted 04/21/08 7:47am

applekisses

foxyflawedhands said:

applekisses said:

WOAH!

Maybe he'll come back to Detroit hmmm


This is probably the most baffling post I've seen on the org in a loooong time. falloff

Why would you say something like that? lol



lol Because I'm a goofball.
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Reply #17 posted 04/21/08 8:55am

uPtoWnNY

applekisses said:

foxyflawedhands said:



This is probably the most baffling post I've seen on the org in a loooong time. falloff

Why would you say something like that? lol



lol Because I'm a goofball.



Give us Knicks fans Joe Dumars and 'Train-Wreck Thomas' is all yours.
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Reply #18 posted 04/21/08 11:33am

applekisses

uPtoWnNY said:

applekisses said:




lol Because I'm a goofball.



Give us Knicks fans Joe Dumars and 'Train-Wreck Thomas' is all yours.



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