JustErin said:

Walk into IBM with a tat on your neck and see if u can get a job.

Graycap23 said:

I know that's not where you were going with it, it was an exaggeration. Sarcasm, if you will.

Graycap23 said:

Times are a changing!

And there's makeup to cover them if that's the case. I just don't see why it's a big deal anymore.

Graycap23 said:

So you agree with discrimination? Buy into it too, do ya?

That's surprising to me and disappointing.

Anyway, at least in this country people with tats/piercings/etc are showing up in all kinds of jobs they would have been discriminated against in the past...and I think that's awesome.

I've never worried about my tattoos. And when I'm 70 I don't really imagine that I'll be hanging out in a wife beater too often.

sj1600 said:

And I don't think too many 70 year olds really give a shit about how ridiculous they may look to some.

JustErin said:

True! I certainly don't plan to worry about it.

JustErin said:

Buy into it? It's a FACT of life. Like it or NOT.

Graycap23 said:

It's a FACT that times are changing because there are people that do not accept that discrimination exists - in any form. Thank God others didn't/don't have the same attitude when it came to and comes to other forms of discrimination.

RodeoSchro said:

I feel the same way...people keep foretting that all the dark ink usually turns greenish over time...not so attractive on most folks. Then there are girls who get them on their boobs when they're young and rebellious "hot-things", not realizing when gravity takes hold as they age all that pukey green ink stretched over a wrinkled, sagging breast is SO not going to be a good look

Ottensen said:

Yes, but don't you feel that when you're young, rebellious and hot you should celebrate it if you want a tattoo? Who cares what it looks like when they are wrinkled and saggy? Age is going to come to us all, wrinkly with tats or wrinkly without - it's all about personal choice.

I totally get the people saying that they don't like them, or you won't get a job at IBM, or they'll look gross when your seventy. But that's some peoples' take on tattoos. For others it's about personal expression and freedom.

JustErin said:

Do me a favor, go stand the lobby of a multi-billion dollar company and tell me how many tats u see.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but didn't this thread start as a question as to why people in sports were having tatts done? They're common in the sports, arts and entertainment sector but not for those working at IBM or other such white collar jobs.

Doesn't that answer your question?

Graycap23 said:

These cats aren't role models, they're entertainers, no different than actors & rock stars. Plenty of them have tattoos, but for some reason, athletes get all the hate for their tattoos, and sometimes their hair style.


And if a kid can't look to his parents as role models, something's wrong. They're the ones puting food on the table and clothes on a kid's back, not LeBron James. We can enjoy what they do on the court/field, but that's where the hero worship should end. Charles Barkley nailed it - trying to be what others want you to be is crazy.


You can wear tattoos and work in the corporate world. I do it all the time.

Graycap23 said:

The men in Japan get full body tattoos but leave a space down the middle for button down shirts and stop at their forearms.

Just sayin'....

CarrieLee said:

Hold up, Mama. We have a small place in Shinjuku (Tokyo prefecture), and I can tell you those are not your standard businessmen. Yours is a VERY specialized example that doesn't apply to general Japanese society at all. In Japan, tatoos are a punishment and ritual marking only for the social outcasts who belong to the Yakuza (Japanese mafia). The tatoo you are speaking about is known as "irezumi", and it is a pictoral representation for what mafia gang you belong to as well as which crimes you have committed: until recent years, in addition to the tatoos, Yakuza were also required to chop off half their pinky finger as badge of honor and sign of loyalty. These rituals represent a lifelong pledge to be a Yakuza foot soldiers until death. Tatoos are in no way embraced by the general population of Japan because of that connotation to their history and culture. Show up to an Onsen (waterspring),or gym for example: there are often very clear signs at the entrance declaring that they do not accept tatooed patrons. If by chance you manage to be a "Gaikokujin" (foreigner) that manages to slip by this, you should expect to be gawked at, potentially avoided like the plague from other patrons of the hot spring, or you may even be asked to leave. Tatoos are frowned upon by the general population and considered grossly impolite (if you are not in fact a criminal).


.

uPtoWnNY said:

lol.....really? Ok.

Ottensen said:

Damn. Break it down, my worldly sista! Quite interesting. . .

Graycap23 said:

lol.....really? Ok.[/quote]

I've got twelve(so far), but you wouldn't know unless I go to work in shorts.

I have a couple. I always get compliments over them, u know. But yeah, Rodman was the first cat to have as many as he did in the NBA. Iverson was closely behind. They were waaay ahead of the pack before cats started jumping on the bandwagon.

blackguitaristz said:

Who's the other cat on the Nuggets? He is loaded up with tats. He makes Iverson looks like he doesn't have any.

blackguitaristz said:

Is it Carmelo Anthony?

I was just commenting on this, saying "remember when Rodman looked so different with all those tattoos?"

Shit changes so fast! That was not so long ago.

RE: tattoos turning greenish--that's because they weren't well done or the owner doesn't take care of them. If you put lotion on your tattoos, the colors will stay more vibrant.


RE: Tattoos on guys = HOTNESS. Dennis Rodman's Tattoos: HOTNESS. Dennis Rodman: (Wouldn't touch him/his junk with a 10 foot pole, but he is sexy, imo. Or maybe it was just the way he actually played defense unlike most other NBA players...lol)

Graycap23 said:

What does having a tattoo (or two or three) have to do with one's success/failure as a role-model? There are tons of bad role models who have no tattoos just like there are good role models with tattoos.

Graycap23 said:

That doesn't mean they don't have any. How many of those multi-billionaires were frat boys that got their letters tattooes on their calf, or have a shamrock ('cause their Irish) somewhere? These ballers that have most of their tats on their arms, chest, etc.--who the fuck cares? It's not going to be an issue when they are wearing a dress/work shirt like most people wear at work. (Just like your IBM/multi-billion example.) Otherwise, they'll end up in coaching, sports broadcasting, etc and again, it will be irrelevent.

Some people like tattoos and some people like them A LOT. A basketball jersey makes for a good frame for tattoos on the upper arm.