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PrintableNWF said:  Maybe Steve is right about one thing though. These pick-up artists scams and porn and stuff probably are used to keep men sane. What other choice do they have?
I can't just go on the phone right now and make some booty calls. Last time I did this was last year when I was mad drunk and called this girl up. Apparently I didn't remember that, but it was a pretty rude call and she did get pretty pissed. 
And that's what I don't like about girls. It's like, I try to be romantic and even sexual and it only comes off in women's eyes as being a pig or pervert. I may as well just be a fag.  Dude, if that's the way you want to go about to succeed with women, I doubt you'll end up with a nice one if any at all.... I can not see the frustration about this, yours and this creep SteveHoca-dude..... Really, why would you want to be able to do booty-calls whenever you want?? It just doesn't work that way and obviously you're not that type of guy (no offense!)..... I believe in 'you get what you give', if you're gonna sit in front of your webcam in mom's bathroom to bitch & whine about how picky, picky, picky women are, expect nothing in return! It's all about your own approach to things..... If it's about the booty call, dude I'm telling you, SteveHoca is not gonna give you any answers! He'll just take you on the downward spiral he's on already! [Edited 4/25/08 1:41am] | |
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Lawdy, what a man.
Just to add my  to this, and to agree with what many have said, this man's problem is his misogynistic attitude.
And, a quick heads up, referring to women as, "sluts," and "bitches" is not going to help your cause. His hair, his clothes, his very annoying voice, his desire for a return to the fifties where women got married because they couldn't support themselves - these are all reasons why women avoid him. He lives with his mother and calls womens' liberation a "pussy renaissance." What's more worrying is that he is just intelligent enough to try and make an issue out of it. | |
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sj1600 said: Lawdy, what a man.
Just to add my to this, and to agree with what many have said, this man's problem is his misogynistic attitude.
And, a quick heads up, referring to women as, "sluts," and "bitches" is not going to help your cause. His hair, his clothes, his very annoying voice, his desire for a return to the fifties where women got married because they couldn't support themselves - these are all reasons why women avoid him. He lives with his mother and calls womens' liberation a "pussy renaissance." What's more worrying is that he is just intelligent enough to try and make an issue out of it.  exactly! | |
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abierman said: sj1600 said: Lawdy, what a man.
Just to add my to this, and to agree with what many have said, this man's problem is his misogynistic attitude.
And, a quick heads up, referring to women as, "sluts," and "bitches" is not going to help your cause. His hair, his clothes, his very annoying voice, his desire for a return to the fifties where women got married because they couldn't support themselves - these are all reasons why women avoid him. He lives with his mother and calls womens' liberation a "pussy renaissance." What's more worrying is that he is just intelligent enough to try and make an issue out of it. exactly!Look, the man is obviously angry about the way things are. Yes, he's probably raging against the wrong things in the wrong way. But if this sort of condition were happening to you, wouldn't you be angry about it? NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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NWF said: abierman said: exactly!Look, the man is obviously angry about the way things are. Yes, he's probably raging against the wrong things in the wrong way. But if this sort of condition were happening to you, wouldn't you be angry about it? No, i would sort myself out and stop blaming everyone else except me. Basically dude MAN UP. As a side benefit to growing a set, WOMEN LIKE THAT. | |
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Imago said: ... but let's not blame women here--that's just stupid.
i agree. lets blame the stupid TV shows and magazines and shallow media that teenage girls grow up thinking is valuable as it shapes their psyches into shallow vain creatures who wouldnt know a good man if he bit them on the tit. my innocence raped my trust betrayed my mind deceived my heart in smitherines and u've got the gall to breathe. | |
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I watched the one video where he talks about the letter of the thread starter. I am kinda afraid to watch the other ones after what I have read about them here . I don't think the problem some men have are the women's fault, so it 's not right to blame them. But I must admit that it is a lot easier for a shy woman to find a man than for a shy man as in most cases it's still the men who approach women and not the other way round. So if for whatever reason you have difficulties to do that it must be a very tough situation for guy me thinks.With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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mdiver said: NWF said: Look, the man is obviously angry about the way things are. Yes, he's probably raging against the wrong things in the wrong way. But if this sort of condition were happening to you, wouldn't you be angry about it? No, i would sort myself out and stop blaming everyone else except me. Basically dude MAN UP. As a side benefit to growing a set, WOMEN LIKE THAT. Yes, exactly! And due to his lack of arguments he involves all the conspiracy-theories the world has to offer.....the government, CIA, the Illuminati, New World Order bullshit.....damn right women don't see him standing! Stop finding comfort in the victim's role is what I would say to him (and maybe to you as well, NWF), and like Phil says: MAN UP!!! Everybody has to deal with loneliness at times, everybody has had experience with rejection....I know I have!!! Does this make me want to rant about the 'Pussy Renaissance' and women with 'stinking holes between their legs'???? No, you find a way to move on, get up and learn, it forms a character.....and characters are there to be improved! Never settle down with eventual current misfortune!!! And yes, that's what women like! [Edited 4/25/08 3:21am] | |
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abierman said: mdiver said: No, i would sort myself out and stop blaming everyone else except me. Basically dude MAN UP. As a side benefit to growing a set, WOMEN LIKE THAT. Yes, exactly! And due to his lack of arguments he involves all the conspiracy-theories the world has to offer.....the government, CIA, the Illuminati, New World Order bullshit.....damn right women don't see him standing! Stop finding comfort in the victim's role is what I would say to him (and maybe to you as well, NWF), and like Phil says: MAN UP!!! Everybody has to deal with loneliness at times, everybody has had experience with rejection....I know I have!!! Does this make me want to rant about the 'Pussy Renaissance' and women with 'stinking holes between their legs'???? No, you find a way to move on, get up and learn, it forms a character.....and characters are there to be improved! Never settle down with eventual current misfortune!!! And yes, that's what women like!
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Serious said: I watched the one video where he talks about the letter of the thread starter. I am kinda afraid to watch the other ones after what I have read about them here
. I don't think the problem some men have are the women's fault, so it 's not right to blame them. But I must admit that it is a lot easier for a shy woman to find a man than for a shy man as in most cases it's still the men who approach women and not the other way round. So if for whatever reason you have difficulties to do that it must be a very tough situation for guy me thinks.this is also true, but is has been like that for ages and it is not caused by feminism over the last 50 years..... I am not a big fan of feminism at all, but I do totally agree with the fact how society, both men & women, has progressed over the last 50 years.....why should women not be allowed to have a say about who they want to be with?.....that's basically what our friend SteveHoca wants! | |
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NWF said: .
I may as well just be a fag.  dude, just ask the gay-mafia of the org around here, I'm sure they can tell you that gay men are often a lot more bitchier than the women..... | |
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abierman said: Serious said: I watched the one video where he talks about the letter of the thread starter. I am kinda afraid to watch the other ones after what I have read about them here
. I don't think the problem some men have are the women's fault, so it 's not right to blame them. But I must admit that it is a lot easier for a shy woman to find a man than for a shy man as in most cases it's still the men who approach women and not the other way round. So if for whatever reason you have difficulties to do that it must be a very tough situation for guy me thinks.this is also true, but is has been like that for ages and it is not caused by feminism over the last 50 years..... I am not a big fan of feminism at all, but I do totally agree with the fact how society, both men & women, has progressed over the last 50 years.....why should women not be allowed to have a say about who they want to be with?.....that's basically what our friend SteveHoca wants! Of course women have a right to choose who they are with . That goes without saying . And believe me I am very picky . But I feel a bit sorry for the guys who usually have to make the first step and thus get rejected more often than women. Although feminism has improved this part of the situation for men  With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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mdiver said: NWF said: Look, the man is obviously angry about the way things are. Yes, he's probably raging against the wrong things in the wrong way. But if this sort of condition were happening to you, wouldn't you be angry about it? No, i would sort myself out and stop blaming everyone else except me. Basically dude MAN UP. As a side benefit to growing a set, WOMEN LIKE THAT.   my innocence raped my trust betrayed my mind deceived my heart in smitherines and u've got the gall to breathe. | |
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NWF said: abierman said: exactly!Look, the man is obviously angry about the way things are. Yes, he's probably raging against the wrong things in the wrong way. But if this sort of condition were happening to you, wouldn't you be angry about it? But in his ragings he is showing a deeply unpleasant aspect of his personality. His frustrations have turned him sour and now he is in a catch 22 situation - can't get a woman, women hate me, I hate women. I can understand being upset about being alone, maybe women are more accepting and philisophical (sp?) about it and more likely to look at themselves and ask, "what's wrong with me, what am I doing wrong." Without simplifying it too much, being tense and angry gives off the wrong vibe which puts people off. In my experience, when you relax and accept that you may not meet anyone for a number of months and you're just going to go out with your friends and enjoy yourself - that is when you meet someone. | |
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damosuzuki said: My personal experience had led me to believe that the problem is not 'what you do': the problem is 'what you are.' Either you can try to change what you are (not easy) or you make peace with what you are. At the very least, do not be like the guy in the clip and try to place the responsibility on anything but yourself. I may be, to paraphrase Lyle Lovett, a lonely, weak, pathetic man, but at least I'm self-aware enough to know that the problem is myself, not every woman in the world.
turn urself loose from self-hatred or whatever keeps u locked away its alot easier than people think. my innocence raped my trust betrayed my mind deceived my heart in smitherines and u've got the gall to breathe. | |
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