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PrintableI am so sorry Sammi. 
When my oldest was 2 or so, my best friend at the time happened to be gay. I sent my son to spend the night at his house. I lived with my grandmother at the time and she was so furious I let him go around "those people" so she threatened to kick me out if I didn't go pick him up. When it occured to her that that meant she would never see my son again, she backed off. Over the years, my family has gotten more tolerant, but not more accepting. Too bad for them because my gay family are the most incredible people. | |
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Sweeny79 said: Fear is some mighty powerful motivation.
  It's not just that though. There is some real hatred involved. You can't love your child if you are willing to put them on the goddamn streets. I mean how many straight kids fuck up in the most massive ways and their parents don't even think of putting them on the streets but admit you are gay and *bam*, out in the cold. It is just sickening. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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FunkMistress said: 2Jay said: Sad indeed. As for the thread, i belongs in Politics and Religion.
No it doesn't. Being gay doesn't make you a political issue. As a bisexual, i also don't think it's political. but this may deal with the way a family is raised, thus combining politics and religion. | |
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2Jay said: FunkMistress said: No it doesn't. Being gay doesn't make you a political issue. As a bisexual, i also don't think it's political. but this may deal with the way a family is raised, thus combining politics and religion. those are the motivating factors but like she said it's not her motivation so it really should stay in GD. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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2Jay said: FunkMistress said: No it doesn't. Being gay doesn't make you a political issue. As a bisexual, i also don't think it's political. but this may deal with the way a family is raised, thus combining politics and religion. | |
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Ivy I adopted you when I first met you in 2005. And I have a real life twin that I haven;t seen or spoken to in years so what does that tell you??? I can't be an elitest not my style, dear. | |
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Call me ignorant, but Im always shocked to see how much ignorance still exists in the world! 
I'm mean how can intelligent people be so dumb?? If you will, so will I | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: 2Jay said: As a bisexual, i also don't think it's political. but this may deal with the way a family is raised, thus combining politics and religion. those are the motivating factors but like she said it's not her motivation so it really should stay in GD. ok. fine. | |
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2Jay said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: those are the motivating factors but like she said it's not her motivation so it really should stay in GD. ok. fine. thank you. [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Sweeny79 said: Fear is some mighty powerful motivation.
It's not just that though. There is some real hatred involved. You can't love your child if you are willing to put them on the goddamn streets. I mean how many straight kids fuck up in the most massive ways and their parents don't even think of putting them on the streets but admit you are gay and *bam*, out in the cold. It is just sickening. i've noticed that too.. [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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thanks to everyone for the discussion and kind words - let's keep it up 
i'll update when i can. [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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sammij said: thanks to everyone for the discussion and kind words - let's keep it up
i'll update when i can. Did he just come out or has he been out? If you need any of us gay orgers who have been through coming out and all it entails to talk to him or email him, let us know. We'll be here for him too  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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This is so sad and wrong. | |
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rachel3 said: Ivy I adopted you when I first met you in 2005. And I have a real life twin that I haven;t seen or spoken to in years so what does that tell you??? I can't be an elitest not my style, dear. | |
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I just want to know that when I come to Chicago in May and we are dowtown on Diversey St. and I decided to put my pannies on my head and run through the streets, WILL YOU BE THERE FOR ME???? | |
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rachel3 said: I just want to know that when I come to Chicago in May and we are dowtown on Diversey St. and I decided to put my pannies on my head and run through the streets, WILL YOU BE THERE FOR ME????
Note 2 self.....Chicago in May. | |
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It happens all the time. It's really sad IMO. It has nothing to do with not loving your son or daughter, it has EVERYTHING to do with the parent who did that in the fact that they don't understand sexuality and have a whole different idea as to who thier son/daughter is supposed to be. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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rachel3 said: I just want to know that when I come to Chicago in May and we are dowtown on Diversey St. and I decided to put my pannies on my head and run through the streets, WILL YOU BE THERE FOR ME???? You do know that is IML weekend? You won't be that different from anyone else.  | |
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If everything is okay at home don't forget July and August too. I will bring my leather chaps and thigh high boots too!!!Maybe my Naughty Nurse Nacy outfir as well!! | |
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rachel3 said: If everything is okay at home don't forget July and August too. I will bring my leather chaps and thigh high boots too!!!Maybe my Naughty Nurse Nacy outfir as well!! You are a hot mess.  | |
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This has happened to a lot of people I know.
to your friend"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Stymie said: rachel3 said: I just want to know that when I come to Chicago in May and we are dowtown on Diversey St. and I decided to put my pannies on my head and run through the streets, WILL YOU BE THERE FOR ME???? You do know that is IML weekend? You won't be that different from anyone else. She needs to run down Halsted with leather pannies on her head! Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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sammij said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Religion & society colliding in horrific proportions.
I have known quite a few people that were kicked out of the house because of this as children. I mean 14 and 16 are still kids and as hard a time as my family had with my coming out, the first thing my mom told me when I told her was that she was not going to kick me out of the house. It took a long while for my family to come to grips with it and now 20 years later everyone is fine but they didn't initally completely reject me either. If this happened in my family I would make it clear to whatever pathetic human being I happened to be related to that they are wrong for this and I would do my best to help that kid who is being victimized by their own flesh and blood. I mean this is your child. The baby you gave birth to. Get a fucking grip man. THANK YOU. and it's her first child no less, and she lost her second son to meningitis 7 years ago... she's pretty much lost another son, her only two sons, now out of her life... i really feel for my cousin, and as soon as i'm actually back home i'll be helping him as much as possible to get back on his feet and to live away from the family it's in his best interest, there are nothing but homophobes on this side of the family.. and it sickens me to say the absolute least... Aren't you of West Indian descent? I'm sorry to say that this just speaks to the rampant homophobia and ignorance among people from the islands. I have seen this and worse regarding how some folks from the Caribbean view homosexuals. It's despicable. I know people of different backgrounds still take an archaic view of homosexuals but West Indian culture seems more resistant to adopting a live and let live approach about this.  for your cousin. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: sammij said: thanks to everyone for the discussion and kind words - let's keep it up
i'll update when i can. Did he just come out or has he been out? If you need any of us gay orgers who have been through coming out and all it entails to talk to him or email him, let us know. We'll be here for him too oh dear, he's been out for AGES, so as to why they're freaking out and doing all this b/s now is beyond me... i got in touch with him, things are going to be alright. [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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SCNDLS said: sammij said: THANK YOU. and it's her first child no less, and she lost her second son to meningitis 7 years ago... she's pretty much lost another son, her only two sons, now out of her life... i really feel for my cousin, and as soon as i'm actually back home i'll be helping him as much as possible to get back on his feet and to live away from the family it's in his best interest, there are nothing but homophobes on this side of the family.. and it sickens me to say the absolute least... Aren't you of West Indian descent? I'm sorry to say that this just speaks to the rampant homophobia and ignorance among people from the islands. I have seen this and worse regarding how some folks from the Caribbean view homosexuals. It's despicable. I know people of different backgrounds still take an archaic view of homosexuals but West Indian culture seems more resistant to adopting a live and let live approach about this. for your cousin. jamaican. talk about archaic.
these fools live all the way back in the past. it's sick. [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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I'm sorry to hear that
That was a paralyzing thought while coming out to my mother. [Edited 4/17/08 10:33am] | |
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Happens everyday.
Sad but true. I can't understand it either. I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the dirt. | |
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... [Edited 4/16/08 18:40pm] | |
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Disowning someone for being openly LGBTQ is NEVER COOL.
And, moreover, it speaks a lot about how much someone cares for their own children. Your own reflection. Your own child. That is MADNESS. My mother said the same thing. She was like, "I can't believe anyone would just disown their kids for being gay," she was just like, "I wish all my kids would just be open and honest with me, that's the biggest thing I want as a mother." And I agreed with her. My whole family feels the same way. So I really feel for that kid and I hope them the best. Because it's not even bullshit, it's beyond bullshit. | |
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sammij said: Why is this happening?
Because stupid people believe that you can make somebody straight. | |
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