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Reply #60 posted 04/20/08 11:56am

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fluid said:

ehuffnsd said:


it's American culture. remember salsa is the most purchased condiment in the US.



What's american culture? So far as I can tell we came from a whole bunch of countries. Even hotdogs and BBQ which are eaten on The 4th of July are from other cultures.

So you'd be correct by saying Mexican-American culture. Salsa can't be the most purchased condiment.....maybe in California. I can't even say it is here in Texas.

http://www.stylegourmet.c...es/024.htm
The Association for Dressings and Sauces (the existence of which proves that no food product class is without an advocate) recently commissioned Chicago-based research firm Synovate to survey one thousand Americans on their condiment preferences. Salsa tied for first place with ketchup (the condiment that originally made Henry Miller see red). Mayonnaise, barbecue sauce, and bottled salad dressings were also popular, with mustard making a respectable showing. The Survey went beyond mere numerical usage tabulation; it attempted to link personality traits to condiment preference.

Salsa lovers may well be "spicier" as individuals than ketchup pourers. Salsa is most popular in the West, where 25% of those surveyed named it their favorite condiment. Salsians described themselves as more extroverted and sociable compared to consumers in general. They tend to be motivated, competitive, and athletic; these are the risk takers.
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Reply #61 posted 04/20/08 12:11pm

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Where does this "Lazy Mexican" stereotype come from? Most Mexicans seem to be very hard working (if sometimes not exactly legal) individuals. They build the homes, roads, buildings, lawncare, etc. Check out any construction site and you'll usually see a white foreman and about twenty Mexican workers. It looks like very hard work...I wouldn't call that lazy.


I've never heard of the term "lazy mexican". That is a new one. I know the Mexicans I've seen in my community are hardworking and very family oriented.
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Reply #62 posted 04/20/08 12:24pm

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dannyd5050 said:

Where does this "Lazy Mexican" stereotype come from? Most Mexicans seem to be very hard working (if sometimes not exactly legal) individuals. They build the homes, roads, buildings, lawncare, etc. Check out any construction site and you'll usually see a white foreman and about twenty Mexican workers. It looks like very hard work...I wouldn't call that lazy.



Well you've got your cholos/cholas(gang members) who are usually up to no good, instead of getting an education or working, they definitely don't give us a good name. Then you have many people receiving some kind of gov. assistance which is not seen as right either, instead of working they are getting health insurance, food, money all for free. But I do agree most us work and are very hard working, some doing all those jobs most dont want to do


I believe the gang issue is an eyesore and headache within many race/ethnic groups (i.e., Black, White, Asian, Hispanic, etc.), not just within part of the Mexican community. Unfortunately, many in society love to equate just the negative actions/issues of certain races/ethnicities, as a description of that group as a whole. A gang members only purpose, in my opinion, is to bring people within their community down, commit genocide within their own and outside their communities, Unfortunately because these individuals are mentally and spiritually lost, they don't seem to realize that the hurt and pain they cause on others. will someday find it's way back to them.

All people can do is make sure they educate those outside their race about the culture of their people, so that society doesn't continuously define and equate negative actions/issues only with a particular race/ethnic group.
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Reply #63 posted 04/20/08 12:34pm

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There alot in The US Media about blacks and whites. They're the subject of talk shows, have their own shows,and habe plenty of musicians.

What do we have incorrect on latinos? Could be old stereotypes or how hispanics are portrayed on TV. I know there's a big change from how old latinos act and young ones. Give your 5 cents..


I live in Antigua, we have a huge immigrant population from the Dominican Republic and they usually find employment in the sex for hire industry. The misconception here is that Dominicano women are all whores when in fact it is a certain class of Domanicano woman who fills that description.
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Reply #64 posted 04/20/08 2:31pm

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JessieJ said:

DexMSR said:

I have a crush on an Org Latina!!

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Reply #65 posted 04/20/08 2:43pm

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dannyd5050 said:

We don't ALL speak Spanish and are not all Catholic! mad


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Reply #66 posted 04/20/08 2:48pm

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I really have nothing to contribute to this thread...

but I really do thank god that I'm not Mexican...'cause I hate mexican food...
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I'd starve...
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Reply #67 posted 04/20/08 2:51pm

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roodboi said:

I really have nothing to contribute to this thread...

but I really do thank god that I'm not Mexican...'cause I hate mexican food...
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I'd starve...


woah!
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Reply #68 posted 04/20/08 2:53pm

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purplewisdom said:

roodboi said:

I really have nothing to contribute to this thread...

but I really do thank god that I'm not Mexican...'cause I hate mexican food...
neutral
I'd starve...


woah!



I know...sigh

I think I'm the only person alive who doesn't dig mexican food...
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Reply #69 posted 04/20/08 3:22pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

roodboi said:

purplewisdom said:



woah!



I know...sigh

I think I'm the only person alive who doesn't dig mexican food...



My best friend doesn't like Mexican food either.
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Reply #70 posted 04/20/08 3:24pm

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roodboi said:

purplewisdom said:



woah!



I know...sigh

I think I'm the only person alive who doesn't dig mexican food...


You can count me in as well. I like the basics: tacos, burritos, enchiladas. That's really it.
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Reply #71 posted 04/20/08 3:46pm

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MuthaFunka said:

roodboi said:




I know...sigh

I think I'm the only person alive who doesn't dig mexican food...


You can count me in as well. I like the basics: tacos, burritos, enchiladas. That's really it.

Mole Palbano yummm!!!

Pork tamales!!

Pineapple tamales!!

my ex's Mom was born and raised in Guadlajere and she makes the best Mexican Food i've ever had.
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Reply #72 posted 04/20/08 8:03pm

ronnie

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I hate when latina women are always portrayed as crazy-ass Rosie Perez types



we took her Latina card away a long time ago.. lol


as a chilean living in toronto, i have heard about latin women being hot tempered, and freaks in bed. this is also another myth.

and no, it's not chilly in chile nor do we eat 'chilli con carne' rolleyes
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Reply #73 posted 04/20/08 8:59pm

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dannyd5050 said:

We don't ALL speak Spanish and are not all Catholic! mad


and...we're not all cleaning ladies and
landscape workers lol
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Reply #74 posted 04/21/08 1:09am

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emilia1 said:

dannyd5050 said:

We don't ALL speak Spanish and are not all Catholic! mad


and...we're not all cleaning ladies and
landscape workers lol

falloff lawdy lawd

http://www.youtube.com/wa...56vwp3r-hE
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Reply #75 posted 04/21/08 1:37am

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I hate it when men think that Latino women are always horny, (shut up Dex. lurking )

I hate it that folks think all latinos cook the same types of food. I do not eat tamales, and I don't like them, and no Puerto Ricans do not cook Mexican style foods.

As for being a Rican...

yes I am black, and yes I know my heritage, and yes I am American, and no, I do not need to go to an island to know what my heritage is, I am an American period. I vote, my parents vote, and so did my grandparents, I do not speak with an accent, and speak English to other Spanish speaking people, why?Because I can!
I will not be your friend just because you are another Latino, and Rosie is my girl! I love Jenifer Lopez, Puerto Rican women are NOT fast or sluts. And stop hating on the Ricans! and no I am not ghetto.

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Reply #76 posted 04/21/08 1:58am

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Oh and one more thing... when did it become like this rule to become offended when somebody mistakes you for another type of Latino?

"Sorry... I didn't mean to say Mexican... didn't realize you are from Honduras."
WTH...


And what is a Rican supposed look like anyways?

Why aren't Haitians calling themselves Hispanic? When Dominicans are. shrug

Why is Italy a Latin country... but in America they are considered white?

Can someone help me please?
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Reply #77 posted 04/21/08 5:08am

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ronnie said:

IAintTheOne said:




we took her Latina card away a long time ago.. lol


i have heard about latin women being hot tempered, and freaks in bed. this is also another myth.





No.... That's the truth.... trust me on this one lol
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Reply #78 posted 04/21/08 6:22am

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In Florida, I lived within the Latino community for many years, so for a long time I never had any idea of what people's misconceptions were OUTSIDE of that community. I remember before I went at the end of the 80's, everyone in my little northern enclave was having a fit and questioning why I wanted to go and be around a bunch of Miami Vice wannabe Puerto-Ricans who were playing "Scarface" confused rolleyes confused That was the only thng I had heard in terms of misconceptions for years. I guess they thought that every Latino in Miami was a drug dealer, or Puerto Rican. Outside of Miami Sound Machine, Chico and the Man or The Girl from Ipanema, phrases like "Cuban-American", "Mexican-American",or "Brazilian-American" (as well as others) hadn't even REMOTELY made it into mainstream cultural lexicon yet.

Now that I've moved to Europe,I find that there is a similar lack of understanding in the differences amongst Latino cultures...for example, it always irritaes me to no end when I prepare Mexican or Cuban food drooling and people don't undersand that there's a DIFFERENCE in between the 2 countries in spices, ingredients,preparation, ect...it's like they all think it's only rice, chicken, and beans that you just throw on a plate, they have NO clue on the subtleties of each cuisine whatsoever and that gets under my skin to no end disbelief. The same is true regarding music. Ask anyone here to tell the difference between a cumbia, mariachi, rhumba, or bossa nova song, and it's all over. I was listening to an Elis Regina live cd one day, the band was doing a straight up JAZZ VAMP, FUSION for God sakes, and because of her singing (in Portuguese I must add), and they thought I was listening to MARIACHI music....?

One thing that I learned from being within the Latino community though, is that they are NOT a monolithic people, all Latinos are not unified in life experience nor life and political agenda, and it shocked the SHIT out of me to learn that there even is inter-cultural racism in their community. Two of my best girlfriends are 37+ years old Latina with black mothers and white European dads;they have told me stories about their life experiences, and how they view the history and current events regarding latin-American inter-cultural racism that are pretty harsh. Additionally, when I lived in Miami I became very accustomed to hearing Cuban and Puerto-Rican acquaintances bash the hell out of Mexicans and South Americans that were Indian or patial Indian descent. It was like the worst thing you could possibly be was"Indian" or to have "have Indian blood", they got talked about nastily as if they were beasts or aliens from outer space neutral. I didn't understand it at the time, but given my own history as a black woman in the United States where color politics have been part of our cultural DNA for centuries, I should have been quicker to grasp it all, I guess neutral shrug


People of color outside the US are just as colorstruck as African-Americans. As a dark skinned latina I was a victim of this as well.
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Reply #79 posted 04/21/08 6:52pm

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I happened 2 b feasting on tacos while reading this thread. drool
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Reply #80 posted 04/21/08 6:53pm

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Christopher said:

emilia1 said:



and...we're not all cleaning ladies and
landscape workers lol

falloff lawdy lawd

http://www.youtube.com/wa...56vwp3r-hE


The teacher taught those snobs a mexican lesson they won't 4get. LMAO! giggle
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Reply #81 posted 04/21/08 7:53pm

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raveun2thejoyfantastic said:

Christopher said:



The teacher taught those snobs a mexican lesson they won't 4get. LMAO! giggle


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Reply #82 posted 04/21/08 7:57pm

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emilia1 said:

raveun2thejoyfantastic said:



The teacher taught those snobs a mexican lesson they won't 4get. LMAO! giggle


nod worship G-Lo

falloff


Whoops, I commented the wrong video LOL. falloff I was talking about this: wink
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Reply #83 posted 04/21/08 8:05pm

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raveun2thejoyfantastic said:

emilia1 said:



nod worship G-Lo

falloff


Whoops, I commented the wrong video LOL. falloff I was talking about this: wink


rave...

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and i mean that in the nicest way possible lol hug
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Reply #84 posted 04/21/08 8:43pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

SCNDLS said:

Ottensen said:

In Florida, I lived within the Latino community for many years, so for a long time I never had any idea of what people's misconceptions were OUTSIDE of that community. I remember before I went at the end of the 80's, everyone in my little northern enclave was having a fit and questioning why I wanted to go and be around a bunch of Miami Vice wannabe Puerto-Ricans who were playing "Scarface" confused rolleyes confused That was the only thng I had heard in terms of misconceptions for years. I guess they thought that every Latino in Miami was a drug dealer, or Puerto Rican. Outside of Miami Sound Machine, Chico and the Man or The Girl from Ipanema, phrases like "Cuban-American", "Mexican-American",or "Brazilian-American" (as well as others) hadn't even REMOTELY made it into mainstream cultural lexicon yet.

Now that I've moved to Europe,I find that there is a similar lack of understanding in the differences amongst Latino cultures...for example, it always irritaes me to no end when I prepare Mexican or Cuban food drooling and people don't undersand that there's a DIFFERENCE in between the 2 countries in spices, ingredients,preparation, ect...it's like they all think it's only rice, chicken, and beans that you just throw on a plate, they have NO clue on the subtleties of each cuisine whatsoever and that gets under my skin to no end disbelief. The same is true regarding music. Ask anyone here to tell the difference between a cumbia, mariachi, rhumba, or bossa nova song, and it's all over. I was listening to an Elis Regina live cd one day, the band was doing a straight up JAZZ VAMP, FUSION for God sakes, and because of her singing (in Portuguese I must add), and they thought I was listening to MARIACHI music....?

One thing that I learned from being within the Latino community though, is that they are NOT a monolithic people, all Latinos are not unified in life experience nor life and political agenda, and it shocked the SHIT out of me to learn that there even is inter-cultural racism in their community. Two of my best girlfriends are 37+ years old Latina with black mothers and white European dads;they have told me stories about their life experiences, and how they view the history and current events regarding latin-American inter-cultural racism that are pretty harsh. Additionally, when I lived in Miami I became very accustomed to hearing Cuban and Puerto-Rican acquaintances bash the hell out of Mexicans and South Americans that were Indian or patial Indian descent. It was like the worst thing you could possibly be was"Indian" or to have "have Indian blood", they got talked about nastily as if they were beasts or aliens from outer space neutral. I didn't understand it at the time, but given my own history as a black woman in the United States where color politics have been part of our cultural DNA for centuries, I should have been quicker to grasp it all, I guess neutral shrug


People of color outside the US are just as colorstruck as African-Americans. As a dark skinned latina I was a victim of this as well.




I think this is true everywhere. I find it kinda weird.
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Reply #85 posted 04/22/08 9:06am

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MoniGram said:

JessieJ said:


OMG, who?! hammer



Yes who!!!! giggle



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Reply #86 posted 04/22/08 9:58am

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

SCNDLS said:



People of color outside the US are just as colorstruck as African-Americans. As a dark skinned latina I was a victim of this as well.




I think this is true everywhere. I find it kinda weird.


To some degree, I think this colorstruck mentality is worse in the US. I emigrated to the US from Panama at 7 and I swear I had no idea I was black until I came here. Growing up in Panama I knew my skin was a different color but race really didn't come up. I went to private Catholic school and was always the only black kid in my class and I was NEVER, not once, made fun of because I was black.

Cut to 2nd grade in Killen, Texas and there were daily insults and ridicule not because I was black, but because I was dark-skinned. And, of course, it came from other black kids. I was TOTALLY baffled and didn't understand it. Still don't, But back then I had NO frame of reference for this type of thinking.

I find that people in other countries, especially Latino countries, are more nationalistic and classist, rather than race conscious. I mean we're all Panamanians or Mexicans or Spanish. Not, Irish-Panamanian or African-Panamanian or whatever. When you throw race into the equation everything gets all confused. sigh
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Reply #87 posted 04/24/08 5:33am

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DexMSR said:

MoniGram said:




Yes who!!!! giggle



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He's not talking! mad
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Reply #88 posted 04/24/08 6:01am

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SCNDLS said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:





I think this is true everywhere. I find it kinda weird.


To some degree, I think this colorstruck mentality is worse in the US. I emigrated to the US from Panama at 7 and I swear I had no idea I was black until I came here. Growing up in Panama I knew my skin was a different color but race really didn't come up. I went to private Catholic school and was always the only black kid in my class and I was NEVER, not once, made fun of because I was black.

Cut to 2nd grade in Killen, Texas and there were daily insults and ridicule not because I was black, but because I was dark-skinned. And, of course, it came from other black kids. I was TOTALLY baffled and didn't understand it. Still don't, But back then I had NO frame of reference for this type of thinking.

I find that people in other countries, especially Latino countries, are more nationalistic and classist, rather than race conscious. I mean we're all Panamanians or Mexicans or Spanish. Not, Irish-Panamanian or African-Panamanian or whatever. When you throw race into the equation everything gets all confused. sigh
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I know EXACTLY what you're talking about my best girlfriend is Panamanian-German, living in the US for maybe 20 years now. She takes after her Bavarian dad (Bavaria is a state that's like the German equivilent to Texas lol ), and is VERY pale. She gets a LOT of hate and confused stares from black Americans because of her involvement civil rights issues, preservation arcitecture sights from the slavery and Jim Crow era , she's a KILLER African dance teacher, and is given to incorporating traditional pieces of Panamanian clothing and accessories into her daily wardrobe. Unless people get to know anything about her backround, they're always looking at her like "who is this white European girl tryin' to act like she black! And got the nerve to be wearing all that African jewelry and African clothes!"...girl, we in the US truly and quite often have NO CLUE about anyone or anything outside of our own shores, that is for real...in the meantime, I notice she doesn't separate or judge people based on race, rather than will TEAR AN ASS UP about whether they are "colonialist" or "imperialist"... it's VERY clear that the classism thing runs waaaay deep for herand she will call a mofo out in a New York minute.

I've also seen this with my Brazilian friends: everything that I know of Brasil has little to do with racism, versus classism.
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Reply #89 posted 04/25/08 6:47am

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MoniGram said:

DexMSR said:




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He's not talking! mad



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